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Clumsy Pilots Lands In FCO Instead Of CIA  
User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 39
Posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 8960 times:
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On monday, an Easy Jet flight supposedly from GVA to CIA had its pilot landing in FCO airport instead !!! This I don't think changed much for the passengers inside the plane who were going to rome. It did however affect those passengers wanting to go back to GVA from CIA. Result, they had to find their own way back to GVA without a refund, just because of the Pilot's fault which also means the Airline's fault

1) Its good the fact of there having a refund for overbooking, delays and flight cancels

2)Does this sort of incident often happen ?


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User currently offlineTeva From France, joined Jan 2001, 1794 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8800 times:

They had the incident too early...
I think the new European rules start today only....
However, if they were already checked, the airline is responsible for the pax.. And with Easyjet parameters, the check-in was already closed when the pilot made his mistake.
Just one question: why didn't Easyjet send the plane from FCO to CIA? (or organize a bus for the pax)Of course, it has a cost. But it is cheaper than flying en empty plane back to GVA
Teva


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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom (England), joined Sep 2003, 8031 posts, RR: 76
Reply 2, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8772 times:
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Quoting Teva (reply 1):
But it is cheaper than flying en empty plane back to GVA


Why? Less weight = less fuel = more $£$ for U2. They didn't give a refund the passengers remember.

The pilot should be sacked as well, moron.


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User currently offlineGkirk From United Kingdom (Scotland), joined Jun 2000, 23060 posts, RR: 58
Reply 3, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8741 times:

Surely the ATC controllers should have told him he was landing at the wrong airport?


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User currently offlineBALandorLivery From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8716 times:

HOW THE HELL CAN YOU ACCIDENTLY LAND AT THE WRONG AIRPORT!

1, the flightplan from GVA to CIA would be in the FMC/FMGS

2, atc has the aircrafts flightplan

3, the approach plates used by pilots to set up landing would clearly say FCO with a plan of FCO's runway[s].

4, did they not realise on the radio that they were talking to FCO app & twr?

I don' t think 2 pilots can make this mistake, if they really did, THATS A DISGRACE, THEY MUST HAVE BEEN SLEEPING!

are you sure it wasn't a diversion?


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User currently offlineIanatstn From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 571 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8678 times:

If this is proven to be the pilots fault, I don't think he will have much more of a career at easyJet!

Unfortunate thing to have happened, you would think that with the amount of technology at the disposal of ATC and the pilots that such an event would never occur, but this has proven me wrong!

Cheers,
Ian.


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User currently offlineSHUPirate1 From United States, joined Sep 2003, 3489 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8646 times:

You would have to think that easyJet would give their CIA-originating passengers more than just a speech about how they are up the creek without a paddle and not to ask for their assistance...

Otherwise, I'm not sure how tort works in the European Union, but I'm sure that there will be a lawsuit coming...


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User currently offlineAdam From United States, joined Jan 2005, 465 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8632 times:

Well, it is a LOT easier to get into rome from FCO than CIA, but getting into Rome obviously isn't everyones concern, but it would have actually been beneficial to me.

Ciao,
Adam


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User currently offlineDiesel1 From United Kingdom (Wales), joined Mar 2001, 1513 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 8632 times:

What is the source of your information RootsAir?


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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 39
Reply 9, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8611 times:
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Here it is though in French ...its just mentioned in an article which concerns overbooking
It from a feench speaking newspaper called 24 heures
However here in Switzerland you have to pay to view archives of past editions so i haven't been able to find one that only mentions this incident. If I mangae to find an edition with an article about the incident I will scan the article and publish it here
http://www.24heures.ch/home/journal/...&art_id=45446&Rubrique=Gros+titres


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User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4071 posts, RR: 39
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8595 times:
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Hey everybody

http://www.lematin.ch/nwmatinhome/nw...actu_suisse/nuit_blanche_pour.html

I have finally been able to find an article thought its in french only. You could use the google language tools to translate the article if you wish so since I don't really have time now to translate it

It says that the PAX had to spend the night in CIA , and they were given no food or beverages during the whole night, which is very bad especially with young kids on board.

According to easy Jet there were verys trong winds on CIA but since other aircraft landed it increased the chances of the pilot having landed at the wrong airport.

Tuesday they finally got to GVA and police had to disperse the angry PAX .
EZS should finally refund them



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 24960 posts, RR: 51
Reply 11, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 8551 times:

Whats going on......Forgetting your sector.
regds
MEL


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User currently offlineVictorTango From India, joined Jan 2005, 484 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 8407 times:

Mel, a 9W staff once told me that their pilot landed a 737 at Juhu aerodrome instead of BOM. Is this true? or rather, is it possible for a 737 to land at Juhu?

Olly

User currently offlineBabybus From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 1324 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8357 times:

This happened once while I was working at LGW. An SQ 744 was descending into LGW but it wasn't ATC who queried it but the guy who controlled the gate allocations. " I think you should be heading for LHR" he told the pilot. And he was right. The pilot didn't respond or thank him for pointing out the error.




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User currently offlineEurohub From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8185 times:

If EZY do sack that pilot, perhaps he could get a job with FR - I wouldn't mind it if FR services 'accidentally' ended up at airports located closer to the towns they purport to serve!


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User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined today!, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 8157 times:

Quoting VictorTango (reply 12):
a 9W staff once told me that their pilot landed a 737 at Juhu aerodrome instead of BOM


9W pilots have landed at some wrong aerodromes in the past and have even landed on taxiways, but never at Juhu airport.

That said, JAL had a DC-8 try to mistakenly land at Juhu in 1972. It was the last flight that particular aircraft made alas.

User currently offlineDiesel1 From United Kingdom (Wales), joined Mar 2001, 1513 posts, RR: 9
Reply 16, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8067 times:

Would be interesting to hear a comment from Rick767 as an easyJet pilot.

This is a comment summarised from PPRuNe - the author is also a 737 pilot

Sometimes a Commander may not land at Ciampino and will go to Fiumicino instead. Usually in the case of the circling approach being in use at CIA. It is a demanding approach and if its a blustery night close to minima or part of the lighting is U/S then airmanship alone dictates it better to land at the other Rome airport a few miles away.

Under no circumstances are you going to get the two mistaken and accidently land at the wrong one. They are quite different in many fundamental repects.


http://www.pprune.org/forums/showthr...9fdeeff73f229ecf2b&threadid=163762

So... it's unlikely it was an error, much more like a diversion.






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User currently offlineA319114 From Netherlands, joined Aug 2004, 541 posts, RR: 2
Reply 17, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 8040 times:

I think Diesel1 is right, It's almost impossible that you land by mistake at an airport which is 18 miles away from your intended destination.


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User currently offlineBALandorLivery From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 286 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7947 times:


Quoting A319114 (reply 17):
It's almost impossible that you land by mistake at an airport which is 18 miles away from your intended destination.


Thats correct. Enough said.




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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 4
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7891 times:

I landed at an airport in China (still have no idea where) on my way between Beijing and Guangzhou in a CAAC Trident. Nobody got out, nobody got in and no fuel was added. I always thought the pilot got the wrong place.

User currently offlineRaybolt From United States, joined Oct 2001, 255 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7474 times:

Back a few years (more than that now I suppose), a NW flight landed at BRU instead of FRA. The captain thought they were landing at FRA the whole time (till they broke out of the clouds on final) and even called approach and tower Frankfurt. Only the pax and FAs in the back knew they were going to the wrong airport because of a moving map display in the cabin. There were a few other factors contributing also, but it does show that this sort of thing can happen from time to time.

dan


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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (3 years 6 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 7385 times:

The article clearly says that the pilot went to FCO because strong winds prevented a landing at CIA.