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Why No More 747 Orders?  
User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3542 times:

Why don't the airlines order 747s these days??
do you have any idea about it?

thnx for replies

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User currently offlinePM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6926 posts, RR: 63
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3521 times:

Where to start?

They are still buying freighters in respectable numbers and - if Boeing keep making it - they will do for some time to come.

But you are right that sales of the passenger model are dwindling. Boeing themselves would say that it proves their theory that airlines and passengers want point-to-point flights on necessarily smaller planes.

Another factor is that there are now credible alternatives. The A340-600 and 777-300ER can carry (almost) as many pax as the 747.

It may also be that it's just showing its age. (Aren't we all?) After all, it's basically a sixties design.


User currently offlineScanorama From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3476 times:

A380, A340 and B777 spell the end of the B747. After all B747 is a 1960s design, while B777, A340 and A380 are much more recent designs. And there are plently of second hand B747s to choose from.

User currently offlineNumberTwelve From Germany, joined Dec 2004, 1431 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3428 times:

Emrecan, just check the seat capacity of modern planes and compare to the 747. There's not that big difference. So, as Scanorama already wrote, airlines choose modern fuel efficient planes such as 330, 340 and T7.

If B doesn't build the 747 ADV, they can forget the production line for the 747 - but I'm sure they will build the ADV.



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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

Correctb me if I'm wrong, but the 747 should be the LCCs aircraft of choice. Plenty in the desert, high volume pax load, flies like one, and popular with passengers. The 747 is the LCC A380 or the Japs have got this wrong over the decades.

User currently offlineScanorama From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3351 times:


Quoting Spike (reply 4
Correctb me if I'm wrong, but the 747 should be the LCCs aircraft of choice. Plenty in the desert, high volume pax load, flies like one, and popular with passengers. The 747 is the LCC A380 or the Japs have got this wrong over the decades.
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The downside of 747 is the longer turn around time and LCC needs more frequency rather than capacity.


[Edited 2005-02-17 16:36:21]

User currently offlineEilennaei From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3306 times:

Long story short:
1) cargo operations are increasing at a far faster rate than passenger operations, and offer better yield;
2) used gargo-configured/configurable 747s are available in numbers
= the need for new passenger 747s is low relative to supply.


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