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It's Official: AirTran To Charlotte  
User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 34
Posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 3455 times:

Here's the press release. Yes, I know this news is on the "New City for AirTran" thread as the last few of 68 posts. But that is mostly a thread of speculation, here's a new thread to spread the news.

Jim

AirTran Airways Races Into the Queen City
Airline will be only low-fare carrier serving Charlotte starting May 4, 2005

ORLANDO, Fla. (February 17, 2005) - AirTran Airways, a subsidiary of AirTran Holdings, Inc. (NYSE: AAI), today announced the airline will commence new daily nonstop service from Charlotte Douglas International Airport to its hub at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport and Baltimore/Washington International Airport with one-stop service to Boston's Logan International Airport beginning May 4, 2005. These routes will be served by the airline's popular all new Boeing 717 aircraft which feature 12 Business Class and 105 coach seats.

"Charlotte represents a great opportunity for AirTran Airways' future growth plan, and we are pleased to bring our high quality, low-fare service to travelers throughout the region," said Robert L. Fornaro, AirTran Airways' president and chief operating officer. "Charlotte has been plagued by the highest fares in the country for a number of years. That changes on May 4th."

"Charlotte is pleased to welcome AirTran Airways to our community. AirTran Airways is a quality low fare carrier and will be a great option for Charlotte travelers," said Charlotte Mayor Patrick McCrory.

AirTran Airways will offer the following new daily nonstop flight options to/from Charlotte starting May 4, 2005:

Nonstop Service from Charlotte:
To Departs Arrives Frequency

Atlanta 6:10 a.m. 7:20 a.m. Daily (Starts May 5)
Baltimore/Washington 7:10 a.m. 8:30 a.m. Daily
Atlanta 11:20 a.m. 12:30 p.m. Daily
Atlanta 1:35 p.m. 2:45 p.m. Daily
Baltimore/Washington 5:15 p.m. 6:35 p.m. Daily
Atlanta 7:00 p.m. 8:10 p.m. Daily


Nonstop Service to Charlotte:
From Departs Arrives Frequency

Baltimore/Washington 9:10 a.m. 10:30 a.m. Daily
Atlanta 12:05 p.m. 1:05 p.m. Daily
Atlanta 3:40 p.m. 4:40 p.m. Daily
Atlanta 5:25 p.m. 6:25 p.m. Daily
Baltimore/Washington 6:40 p.m. 8:00 p.m. Daily
Atlanta 10:45 p.m. 11:45 p.m. Daily


Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
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User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 34
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3426 times:

I think AirTran is going to do well at Charlotte. If AirTran is going to the trouble to fly between the two largest Southeastern network-carrier hubs, they probably are willing to spend the money to establish themselves. Joe Leonard is nobody's fool; he wouldn't attempt this move unless he has reason to believe that AirTran can establish themselves and make money pretty quickly.

Other cities ahead? I'd look for BOS, DFW, PHL, maybe MDW because ATA dropped that route. And or course the usual Florida suspects.

Jim



Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
User currently offline7E72004 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3587 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3420 times:

Cool...i will be turning 30 on that day!! Mzybe i will take flight on AirTran  Big thumbs up


The next generation of aircraft is just around the corner!
User currently offline1millionflyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3413 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (reply 0):
AirTran Airways Races Into the Queen City
Airline will be only low-fare carrier serving Charlotte starting May 4, 2005



What About Indy Air???? Are they not an LCC any more?


User currently offlineOttoPylit From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3412 times:

Joe Leonard is nobody's fool; he wouldn't attempt this move unless he has reason to believe that AirTran can establish themselves and make money pretty quickly.

Uh, try again. He is betting on the demise of US Airways real soon. If FL can have a foothold in CLT by the time US collapses, they stand a good chance at making money. If US is able to pull through, be sure to see FL reduce frequency slightly. Any of the air-chair CEO's on here could have seen that coming.


User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7558 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3401 times:

Quoting DCA-ROCguy (reply 1):
Joe Leonard is nobody's fool; he wouldn't attempt this move unless he has reason to believe that AirTran can establish themselves and make money pretty quickly.


I guess Joe Leonard figured that with WN being preoccupied with its MDW expansion and starting services at PIT, CLT seemed wide open for FL to come in.



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User currently onlineUSFlyer MSP From United States of America, joined May 2000, 2182 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

I think that they will do fine to Atlanta, but will probably end up dropping the Baltimore flights.

USFlyer MSP


User currently offlineDCA-ROCguy From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 4528 posts, RR: 34
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 3374 times:

Uh, try again. He is betting on the demise of US Airways real soon. If FL can have a foothold in CLT by the time US collapses, they stand a good chance at making money. If US is able to pull through, be sure to see FL reduce frequency slightly. Any of the air-chair CEO's on here could have seen that coming.

Hmm...I don't know, Otto. Most of the arm-chair CEO's here (including me until 2003) have been predicting US's demise for a long time. But US Airways keeps flying along, blowing other peoples' money, eternally coddled by the Federal gov't. (FlyI, meanwhile, *won't* get that coddle treatment) Of course we can only speculate, but I doubt that Leonard wouldn't be aware of that.

AirTran entered Philly years ago and established themselves just fine there alongside US Airways. You're correct that entering CLT now would position AirTran well there if US actually did go under. I just don't think AirTran's entry is simply conditional upon an expectation of US' immediate demise.

Jim



Need a new airline paint scheme? Better call Saul! (Bass that is)
User currently offlineKarlB737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3144 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3247 times:

Courtesy: WCNC-TV

Video Report:

http://www.wcnc.com/perl/common/vide...l?title=www.wcnc.com/0217-tran.wmv


User currently offlineJuventus From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2835 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Good news keep on rolling in for US Airways.

User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3114 times:

The vultures really are circling waiting for US Airways to die so they can start eating the rotting carcass.

I'm still pulling for US though.

LH423



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User currently offlineRedngold From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 6907 posts, RR: 44
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 17 hours ago) and read 3100 times:

I see a chess game between WN and AirTran... AirTran has now covered all of US's hubs... Where will WN go next?


Up, up and away!
User currently offlineJerion From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 253 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3068 times:

Interesting...  Big grin

I see a chess game between WN and AirTran... AirTran has now covered all of US's hubs... Where will WN go next?



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User currently offlineOzarkD9S From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 5231 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 16 hours ago) and read 3051 times:

AirTran are in US's hubs, but to no great extent. My guess is they're licking thier chops over the possibilty of snapping up a good size chunk of DCA and LGA slots, where WN shows little interest. Even if the slots came on the market in, they are not the kind of airports WN goes into. Sure no one saw PHL coming, but I still don't see WN heading into LGA or DCA. BOS maybe but even that's a longshot.

I'm not saying anyone is in cahoots, but I think B6, FL and WN are positioning themselves for what they see as the inevitable. B6 and FL are in BOS and LGA, FL is in DCA, PIT and CLT, WN in PIT and PHL. All have a fair amount of new aircraft on order.

A 3-way split, some overlapping LCC competition in a few US strongholds, and who the hell knows what will happen at FLL should US bite the big one.

Personally, with US's reduced costs starting to take effect, I hope they pull through, even in a dramatically different form, pehaps as a Star Alliance mega-regional feeding the east coast.



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User currently offlineNwaca From Canada, joined Jan 2005, 22 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 2873 times:

Does anyone know if AirTran will be doing the ground work or are they using vendor companies?

User currently offlineFlyinryan99 From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 2030 posts, RR: 13
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2840 times:

Nwaca....from the Charlotte Observer

"The airline now says it is looking forward to hiring about 30 workers in Charlotte and plans to expand service this fall."

My guess is they will be doing their own ground handling.

Ryan


User currently offlineMidway2AirTran From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 864 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2824 times:

FL and WN aren't Legacy carriers, unlike the majors I believe they are staying focused on their own original growth plans other than trying to cut each others' throat like some are saying here, even if they do compete in a few markets. That focus is what keeps them successful.

The CLT market appears to be an ideal match for the FL product, who wouldn't agree to that? That serves as better justification than just an attempt at jockeying for position for a possible US demise that may not happen or WN stampede at CLT.



"Life is short, but your delay in ATL is not."
User currently offlineBUFJets From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2803 times:

A quick check shows bith US and DL compete on the ATL-CLT route. Advance fares are available for $143 RT. FL is offering it now for $136.90 as a sale fare with less frequency. I don't see them making a killing on it.

User currently offlinePlaneGuy27 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 314 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 2786 times:

1mililion flyer,

I thought the same thing.

What about Independence Air? I thought they were doing well in Charlotte!

PlaneGuy27


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