Vanguard From Solomon Islands, joined Feb 2004, 78 posts, RR: 0 Posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5443 times:
While I was in the bmi lounge in T1 recently I was watching the planes landing one after another from the East onto the southern runway. Take-offs were on the northern runway heading west.
It was around midday, and I recall that the runways used for take-offs & landings changes around this time (?). So when I saw a plane coming in to the north runway, I presumed the switch had taken place.
However, the following planes all landed on the southern runway, and take-offs continued on the northern one. So why did this one plane (Royal Air Maroc) land on the Northern one - surely length isn't a problem?
Ready4Pushback From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 364 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 5323 times:
Just from watching and listening to some of the comments in the BBC's Airport series, they can request that certain services can go from (or arrive on) a particular runway to reduce taxiing time - usually flights with diplomats/royalty/heads of state onboard.
Airplanepics From United Kingdom (England), joined Jun 2003, 2705 posts, RR: 55 Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5226 times:
Quoting Vanguard (reply 0): It was around midday, and I recall that the runways used for take-offs & landings changes around this time (?). So when I saw a plane coming in to the north runway, I presumed the switch had taken place.
If they were on 27's, then they always switch runways at 3pm. For example, if aircraft were arriving on 27L in the morning, they will change at 3pm and use 27R for arrivals.
Quoting Vanguard (reply 0): It was around midday, and I recall that the runways used for take-offs & landings changes around this time (?). So when I saw a plane coming in to the north runway, I presumed the switch had taken place.
Sometimes when the airport isnt busy, ATC can use both runways - T4 flights like to use 27L for example as it is a shorter taxi to the terminal, while BMI flights prefer 27R as it is closer to T3.
Speedbird2155 From United Kingdom (England), joined Feb 2005, 709 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5208 times:
When would LHR not be busy, except after 11pm? and why would BMI care about T3 being closer to 27R when they use T1?
Airplanepics From United Kingdom (England), joined Jun 2003, 2705 posts, RR: 55 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4837 times:
Quoting Speedbird2155 (reply 4): When would LHR not be busy, except after 11pm? and why would BMI care about T3 being closer to 27R when they use T1?
TimRees From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 285 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4770 times:
Most mornings aircraft arrive onto both runways depending on when they're parking. Around 7am things usually change to either 27L or 27R when the departures pick up.
The 3pm alternation also alternates weekly ie 27L arrivals till 1500/27R arrivals after 1500 one week and vice versa the next the changeover being on Monday.
The 09's of course don't alternate arrivals always being on the R. (except in very rare circumstances).
RTFM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 323 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4697 times:
Actually when using 09L/R it's 09L that is used for arrivals and 09R for departures (with the odd BA flight using 09R to land as it means you don't have to cross a live runway to get to T4).
Feroze From India, joined Dec 2004, 771 posts, RR: 2 Reply 9, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4687 times:
Quoting TimRees (reply 7): The 09's of course don't alternate arrivals always being on the R. (except in very rare circumstances).
Quoting RTFM (reply 8): Actually when using 09L/R it's 09L that is used for arrivals and 09R for departures (with the odd BA flight using 09R to land as it means you don't have to cross a live runway to get to T4).
09L is not used for departures due to the Cranford Agreement (I think) on noise reduction and abatement.
RTFM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 323 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4598 times:
Feroze: correct - it is. Ironic thing is that in it's last few months of operation Concorde would only take off on 09L when they were operating 09L/R. Now if anything was going to blow the Cranford Agreement out of the water that was it!! Bet that rattled a few roof tiles!
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 19 Reply 12, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 1328 times:
09L had to be used for Concorde due to the construction work at the end of 09R which meant aircraft could not use the full length of the runway.
Planesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 3829 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 1141 times:
Well actually its usually the 27's for arrivals/departures
RTFM From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 323 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 1029 times:
Planesarecool: you are correct, however what TimRees was talking about was which runway is used for departures and which for arrivals when using the 09s.
Bazzaldonbond From Ireland, joined Feb 2001, 94 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 818 times:
The reason you saw one use the "wrong" runway is called TEAMING i believe. It inceases the arrival rate when there is less traffic to depart and makes better use of the runways i believe its done 2-3 times an hour
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