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Why No Ryanair Service To GVA?  
User currently offlineRegis From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3013 times:

I have always wondered why FR never took an interest in GVA. It has a huge potential with the very cosmopolitan-travel-friendly-international-rich-Geneva population plus all the surrounding Frenchies for whom GVA is the closest major airport they can find. It is no coincidence that U2 has built a huge hub here. I am sure GVA would support at least one FR route to Stansted for instance. The only reason I can possibly think is that there is a gentleman's agreement between Messrs Stelios and O'Leary to keep off each other's hub. What do you think?

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User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4124 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2999 times:

Geneva is too near a big city for Ryanair!  Big grin

Keep off each others hub? I guess you haven't seen Ryanair's expansion at Luton, Liverpool and East Midlands, three of easyJet's original hubs.

-Stephen


User currently offlineAirplanepics From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2734 posts, RR: 40
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2990 times:

Why not GVA?

Because GVA is actually an airport, and not a farm.
Because GVA actually has planes, would be a shock to the FR pilots.
Because GVA is actually a city people have heard of.

The list goes on  Smile/happy/getting dizzy

Simon  Big grin



Simon - London-Aviation.com
User currently offlineSQNo1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

Well if FR were to fly to GVA, then they would fly to BSL, and call that Geneva. But of course BSL is a U2 base.

SQno1


User currently offlineFlyBeQ400 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

I think the large U2/easyswiss presence at GVA is enough to put Ryanair off - along with the high landing charges (even EZY were complaining). Also, I believe the fact that Switzerland is outside the EU (but a member of EFTA) will increase the legal / regulatory burden on FR.

Next step for FR I believe is large expansion into Eastern Europe. Kosice (Bratislava East) anyone? (actually US Steel has lots of business there, STN - Kosice might work!)


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Gentlemens agreement??? I would hardly call Mr OLeary a gentleman!

Maybe because he has to pay GVA for flying in and out and not the other way round!


User currently offlineFlyBeQ400 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 2946 times:

I don't believe there is an agreement (even if there was I'm not sure about MOL's respect for it!). I think its more a case of market power. FR and U2 realise they dont have enough market/financial power to fight each other directly (this would lead to massive fare wars) but they are increasingly eyeing up taking out smaller competitors to try and boost yields.

So, more a case of tacit collusion than actual collusion.


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