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How Long For AA Super 80's?  
User currently offlineKAUST From United States of America, joined Jun 2009, 99 posts, RR: 25
Posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5202 times:

Greetings,
my apologies if this question has been asked before, I did not find it in the search-function.

How much longer will American Airlines operate their Super 80 fleet? I love the planes and love the airline, hope they keep them going for a long time to come  Big thumbs up Though I understand times are getting tough for the fleet?

Thanks -
KAUST


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User currently offlineLvkewlkid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5110 times:

I love the airline, but not much the aircraft, there kind of tight, and no IFE, unless they get one of those awesome digEplayers on more flights.

Does anyone know why it was called the Super 80, arent there also 83s and 87s in there fleet?


User currently offlineOV735 From Estonia, joined Jan 2004, 914 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5097 times:

How many of them is AA operating? 200? 300? I wouldn't expect them to be gone before some good seven, eight or maybe even ten years, especially since some of them are relatively new aircraft made for TWA in the late 1990's.

User currently offlineSaxman66 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 518 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5093 times:

Not for a while. AA was originally going to phase them out and replace them with the 737-800's. But since they are alittle strapped for cash, they will be keeping them awhile longer. If I had to guess, at least 10 years.

Chris



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User currently offlineAa757first From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3350 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 5085 times:

Seeing that there are more of them than AirTran, Frontier and jetBlue (guesstamating) have planes, not soon. Remember, the last one was built only three years ago.

AAndrew


User currently offlineCORULEZ05 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 4969 times:

Forget about seeing those puppies gone anytime soon. AA have way too many and they don't have any replacements....they will be around for awhile...I'm glad CO got rid of theirs I must say...just another reason why CO is #1

User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4884 times:

AA still has some 350+ MD-80s. So even assuming they would get 36 new 738s per year (or 3 per month), it would take them 10 years to replace them all. Plus, AA currently doesn't have plans to replace them, meaning you will see them at least 12 more years in AA's colors.

User currently offlineBoeingFever777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 409 posts, RR: 53
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4839 times:

I did not find it in the search-function. ...right!  Yeah sure

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/1780332/



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User currently offlineAa777flyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4815 times:

AA WILL BEGIN to phase out their Super 80's AFTER NW retires their last DC9...(LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!)......

User currently offlineIsitsafenow From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4984 posts, RR: 23
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 4802 times:

LYKE..It was called the super 80 because when the plane first was being tested and marketed, it was the DC9-80. After North Central and AA put their first ones in service, McDonnell Douglas started calling it the MD-80.
That may not be 100 percent correct but its pretty close.
safe



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User currently offlineFlagshipAZ From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 3419 posts, RR: 14
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4765 times:

American's oldest MD-80 is 22 yrs old, while the youngest is 6 yrs old. If you count AA's MD-80s with those of TWA...you'll have 362 MD-82/83s. I expect AA to retain the majority of the fleet for quite awhile yet, probably up until 2013 before the oldest 50 start leaving the fleet. Regards.


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User currently offlineContinentalFan From United States of America, joined Oct 2000, 357 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4719 times:

The AA MD-80 is the new NW DC-9.  Laugh out loud

User currently offlineSllevin From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 3376 posts, RR: 6
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4703 times:

Given that AA has deferred 54 of 56 orders left for this decade, it's unlikely you'll seem them disappear anytime soon!

Steve


User currently offlineNYCAAer From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 693 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 4692 times:

We never hear of anything in any company news about replacing the Super 80s at all. In the late '90s when AA announced its agreement with Boeing, it was assumed that the 738s were going to be its replacement. Of the 362 MD-80s on hand, 28 have been parked, and another 12 are going to be grounded this year, leaving 322 in active service. AA has hopes of returning the grounded Super 80s to the air if the financial status of the company improves, unlike the 14 767-200s parked in Roswell, NM. 8 of those 762s are going to be broken up.

User currently offlineANNOYEDFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4012 times:

The last MD-80 was built in 99 for TWA. There is nothing wrong with the MD-80 if you want IFE bring your own. I hope thye fly them till the damn wings fall off and trust me since it's a MD it will fly that long!


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User currently offlineAlexchao From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 688 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3956 times:

There is an interesting article about how the old DC-9s are paying off for NW:
http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050220/old_planes_4.html

If NW can use their DC-9s for that long and effectively, I wouldn't be surprised to see AA use their Super 80s for at least 30 years each.


User currently offlineAviationhack From United States of America, joined May 2004, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3918 times:

I personally enjoy flying on AA's MD-80's.

The ones that I've flown on recently still have MRTC, and are more comfortalble to fly on than most airlines international coach.

I'm still willing to pay an extra 50-80 dollars to fly in MRTC with American on the short haul, and even more on long haul flights, but I'm afraid I'm in the minority.

If people would just pay for a a comfortable flight rather than bitch about a miserable flight, the industry would leap forward, but I'm afraid that this forum would recieve considerably less traffic if that were to happen.  Smile


User currently offlineFriendlySkies From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 4108 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3863 times:

Just as long as NW...when they fall out of the sky, they will be written off and never heard of again except in spotting rumors on a.net...

User currently offlineAlb222 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3844 times:

Quoting Isitsafenow (reply 9):
LYKE..It was called the super 80 because when the plane first was being tested and marketed, it was the DC9-80. After North Central and AA put their first ones in service, McDonnell Douglas started calling it the MD-80.
That may not be 100 percent correct but its pretty close.
safe


Very close. When it was Douglas Aircraft, it was DC9-80. When McDonnell and Douglas merged, to show this was a MD craft, MD80 was born. That is why the advanced DC10 became the MD11 before the first flight.
Boeing came in and things changed again. The MD95 became the 717


User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3828 times:

Some will be flying in year 2020 barring a major jump in engine efficiency or catastrophe.

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