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Luggage Allowance: US Vs Rest Of World?!  
User currently offlineAnsett767 From Australia, joined May 1999, 1021 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3593 times:

I have never understood the USA policy with luggage?
i.e. if you fly on the same airline i.e. BA from Syd to London you get 20 kg (well BA allows 23). But if you take them form London to New York you get a maximum of 64kg under the piece system?

So it¡¦s country specific rather than airline specific? Why is this?

Just a bit confused.

Many thanks!!! ļ

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User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17041 posts, RR: 66
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

More like region specific. North America and flights across the pond are 2x32kg (not quite the same thing as 64kg) while most of the rest of the world is 20kg.


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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3437 times:

VS to Lagos is 2 x 32kg this is because people tarvelling there takes a year supply of whatever they want


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineAMSSpotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3421 times:

I think US/Canadian carriers have always been (far) more generous when it comes to baggage allowance than their counterparts elsewhere. So, if you fly to the US or Canada (even on a non-US/Canadian carrier), the baggage allowance is higher than what it would be on a non-US/Canadian carrier to destinations outside the US or Canada. For instance: AMS to JFK on KL is 2 pc. of 32kg each but AMS to LHR (again on KL) may only be 20kg.

I suppose competition is what forces non-US/Canadian carriers to adapt their rules to US/Canadian standards when it comes to baggage allowance on flights to North America!


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17041 posts, RR: 66
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3395 times:

For instance: AMS to JFK on KL is 2 pc. of 32kg each but AMS to LHR (again on KL) may only be 20kg.

True, but if the intra-European flight is connecting to or from a flight across the pond, the luggage allowance remains 2x32kg.



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User currently offlineMcmahonsmr From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 318 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 3389 times:

I'm not sure of the history of the rule but not only does this apply to direct flights but to the entire journey. For example, if you fly BA from MUC to LHR only the baggage allowance will be 20kg. However, if you're ticketed to fly TXL-LHR-JFK you're entitled to 2x32Kg. As long as the final destination on the bag tag has a destination in North America you are fine.

Although, I would be interested to see how AA's new baggage policy is going to be enforced. Apparently they are not limiting you to 2x 50lb on ALL flights now. So, if you check in at TXL for an LHR flight and connect to an AA flight I'm not sure how the policy would be enforced.

And, to take this discussion even further American carriers have long encouraged carry on only baggage with generous 40lb maximums. Now, I know easyJet have a new rule of if you can carry it on go for it . . . but other European carriers strictly enforce a 6kg rule. Some are more generous with 10kg, like EI. I wish some kind of standard could be agreed upon because in theory you could carry a roll aboard on your 777 from JFK to LHR but when you get to the gate at LHR for another flight you could be forced to check it.


User currently offlineAMSSpotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3369 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (reply 4):
True, but if the intra-European flight is connecting to or from a flight across the pond, the luggage allowance remains 2x32kg.


I totally agree! What I was thinking of was AMS-LHR on KL and LHR being the final destination.


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17041 posts, RR: 66
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3344 times:

And, to take this discussion even further American carriers have long encouraged carry on only baggage with generous 40lb maximums. Now, I know easyJet have a new rule of if you can carry it on go for it . . . but other European carriers strictly enforce a 6kg rule. Some are more generous with 10kg, like EI. I wish some kind of standard could be agreed upon because in theory you could carry a roll aboard on your 777 from JFK to LHR but when you get to the gate at LHR for another flight you could be forced to check it.

Welcome to my life  Big grin But this is really only a problem if you are checking in in Europe for a Euro first leg (eg FCO->LHR for connection to LHR->JFK). I'm not a big offender but I smile, then I put my Platinum card on the desk, then they smile back and let me take it Big grin



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User currently offlineRichie87 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3341 times:

The foreign carriers I have been on have pretty realistic and sensible carry-on luggage policies, so far as I'm concerned. Here in the states... I gotta say: I think the carry-on policies are totally absurd. It's true... half the passengers carry on so much large luggage that it's nuts. It delays the boarding process, fills up the overhead bins so that at times I could not even stuff a light jacket in one, and it's about as bad de-boarding as well.

I suppose struggling US carriers don't want to "annoy" their customers in any way, or drive them to another airline, so they will continue to allow this silly and probably unsafe practice to continue interminably. Baggage services at most US airports are fairly rapid these days.... I never take anything more than my jacket and MAYBE a small back-pack on board.. so those that continue to haul two or three big bags on rollers can thank me that there is enough room for all their stuff on board the aircraft, ha ha.


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3276 times:

Quoting Mcmahonsmr (reply 5):
However, if you're ticketed to fly TXL-LHR-JFK you're entitled to 2x32Kg. As long as the final destination on the bag tag has a destination in North America you are fine.


You don't even need a final destination in the US to get the piece concept - all you need is a ticketed point within the US/Canada and some other areas (most airlines apply the piece concept to Mexico as well).

If you fly TXL-LHR-MIA-GRU on BA/AA you'll get the piece concept, but if you fly TXL-FRA-GRU on LH/RG you'll get 20 Kilos.

Or if you fly FRA-LHR-SYD on BA you'll get 23 Kilos, FRA-DXB-SYD on EK will give you 20 Kilos, while flying FRA-SFO-SYD on UA will get you the piece concept.

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 691 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3235 times:

Quoting Leskova (reply 9):
If you fly TXL-LHR-MIA-GRU on BA/AA you'll get the piece concept, but if you fly TXL-FRA-GRU on LH/RG you'll get 20 Kilos.


even more confusing, when flying GRU-FRA-TXL, you'll get piece concept  Smile


User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3226 times:

Quoting Daumueller (reply 10):
even more confusing, when flying GRU-FRA-TXL, you'll get piece concept


Even better: fly FRA-GRU on LH, you'll get 20k, fly the same on RG, you'll get 23k - fly on RG but with an LH number, you'll get 20k, but if you fly on LH with an RG flight number, you'll get 23k again...

The routes between South America and Europe must be among the most confusing routes anywhere...

By the way: TP still offers the piece concept on flights to Brazil when originating in Europe...



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User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 3206 times:

It varys from airline to airline as well as the region(s) you are flying to and from. There are a long list of variables when it comes to baggage allowance.

Here's a link to Continental's baggage allowances:
http://www.continental.com/travel/po...D=61A50440D54945BDAFA1840C494E9F56
You will quickly see that you have to choose the regions/destinations you are flying to/from in order to see how much baggage you are allowed to take, weight restrictions, etc.


User currently offlineBAxMAN From St. Helena, joined May 2004, 671 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3132 times:

An injustice occurs on the BA flights to EZE which all go via GRU.

Pax travelling to GRU get the generous baggage allowance permitted for Brazil of 2pc x 32kg. Pax travelling to EZE on the same plane, the same flight number and having paid pretty much the same fare are only permitted 23kg in total!

God bless the American, Canadian, Brazilian and Nigerian consumer.

[Edited 2005-02-21 01:12:46]


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User currently offlineSoups From Ghana, joined Jun 2004, 3438 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3117 times:

BA are very strict with their weight policy on a flight to ACC i had 24 Kg, single piece i was told i am only allowed 23 KG and i should pay for the extra kilo, she made me laugh.


Next destinations, Suarabaya, beirut, paris, Accra
User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 878 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3097 times:

BAxMAN

I think if you check carefully you will find that on the GRU/EZE flt we allow paz to both destinations to use the piece system. The confusion occurred as there was talk of changing to weight, but then this never happened, but some tickets are still printed to show 23kgs to EZE. This however is not enforced and the piece system is instead used for both legs of the trip.


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