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AF 343 Vs. 772 In F  
User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3445 times:

Just wondering how Air France's first calss compares on the 343 to the 772. I believe that the 772 has a new first class which is a full flat bed. Is this correct? Also, is the 343 a similar product, or is it much older? I heard that AF is removing its F class on the 343. Can anyone confirm this, because I am booked in first on the 343 in July?

Also, what is the F class on AF like on the 320?

If anyone has any pics of first class in the 343 or 320 i would appreciate it.

Thank you

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User currently offlineZRH From Switzerland, joined Nov 1999, 5569 posts, RR: 36
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Quoting BRAVO7E7 (reply 0):
I believe that the 772 has a new first class which is a full flat bed.


Can you fly any first class without full flat bed, while the most new business classes already have it (for example Swiss on A 343 or Lufthansa). I think a class without full flat bed you can't call anymore "first class". I wouldn't pay for it.


User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3382 times:

Eventually, the AF 343s will have no first class at all.

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User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3377 times:

Gigneil, do you know how long the transformation will take? If I am booked in F in July does that mean it will still have it?

User currently offlineMindscape From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 315 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3375 times:

Hi BRAVO7E7,

If you have booked on AF A343, then you will get the old F class seats. Indeed, only B777 (200 and 300) will get new seats (First, Biz and also Economy). AF B744 and A343/A332 will only get 2 class configuration with new interiors. Presently, only AF B773 have new F class seats. B772 still have the old F class seats as well but they will be replaced later this year.

Bon voyage !


User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3355 times:

Anyone know how to tell if my a/c will have the new config?

Thanks


User currently offline707437 From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

I took an AF A320 flight from BCN-CDG in "Business" class. The A320 had a std. 3+3 across arrangement but in business the center seats are converted to tables/consoles by folding a portion of the seatback downward, with the same economy seat width. And with decent food and drinks for a short flight.

So it isn't really a first class setup at all but it does have a few extra inches of pitch and the center seat is always empty and used as a table. Essentially there is no first class equivalent on this A320 but it may be worth a few extra bucks.

IN the US market the same scenario would've been a 2+2 across with wide seats and 36" pitch. . . for domestic hops

Now of course AFs widebody seating is entirely different. The 772 that I was on, CDG-JFK had 7 across in business and 6 across in first. The first class seat appeared to be lie flat (or close enough to it). I was in business and the seats were about 160 degrees ??? and I slept all the way from the Irish Coast to Long Island. . .


User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3336 times:

http://seatguru.com/airlines/Air_France/Air_France_Boeing_777-200.php

This shows F as being four across. Is this going to be the new layout on the 772?


User currently offline707437 From United States of America, joined exactly 11 years ago today! , 152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 3324 times:

As of November 2004 the 772 first class was 2+2+2 and biz 2+3+2 I didn't bother to see what economy was. The first class had conventional looking seats not the semiprivate suites. Remember that six across on a 772 is a lot of room and first class was 2 rows as I remember it.

The FA said that they were going to upgrade both the F and biz classes on the 772 and busses. . . . But he seemed to think that this would be a long term project.

Maybe I was on the old dog of the fleet, it was different from what is shown on seatguru. . .

Why the interest BRAVO7E7? Are you planning a trip on AF? Where to?


User currently offlineDfwRevolution From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 997 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3304 times:

Quoting 707437 (reply 8):
As of November 2004 the 772 first class was 2+2+2 and biz 2+3+2 I didn't bother to see what economy was.


AF economy is 3+3+3


User currently offlineBRAVO7E7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 3285 times:

Another question:
Is the 77w the 773?


User currently offlineJobalas From France, joined Mar 2001, 146 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3135 times:

yes, 77W is the new 777-300


Faire du ciel le plus bel endroit de la Terre...
User currently offlineQantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 3033 times:

77W is the designation for a 777-300ER. 773 is a standard 777-300.

User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7425 posts, RR: 57
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 2979 times:

The "First Class" seats are exactely the same on all AF's long-haul planes :

B744 (13 P) , B772ER (12 P), A343 (6 P), A332 (6 P). Same seats. Same pitch. Full flat bed.

First Class in A332 & A343 :

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For the moment, the B773ER are the only a/c to be fitted with the New First Class seats (8 P ).

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The B772ER will be fitted with the new First Class seat (8 P), and later the A380 (9 P).

The B744, A343 and A332 are progressively reconfigured in a J/Y version. No more "First Class."

The New Business Class seats :


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There is no First Class in the A320.


User currently offlineFlySSC From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 7425 posts, RR: 57
Reply 14, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 2800 times:

BRAVO7E7,

Tell me where & when you'll fly AF. I'll tell you which plane (and which config.) you'll have...  Big grin


User currently offlineBravo7e7 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 1840 posts, RR: 17
Reply 15, posted (9 years 9 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 2692 times:

FlySSC, thanks.
My international segments are as follows:

July 06, 2005
IAD-CDG
5:10P.M-6:30A.M
772 Flight #39

July 20, 2005
CDG-CVG
10:20A.M-1:25P.M
343 Flight #382


Thanks for your help. if neither of my segments is in the new first I might just change. Is JFK the only east coast city served by the new first class 77W?


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