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CO Using 757's On EWR-LGW  
User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 606 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 8061 times:

I noticed that on somedays this summer, CO has added a third flight (flight 104) departing at 10:00 pm for LGW from EWR. And flight 105 departing LGW to EWR at 12:00 pm, in addition to the two other daily 777 flights on that route. Both these newly added flights on booked for a 757 aircraft. Is this just seasonal or will these aircrafts be upgraded to 767's. Any info. I know this is a popular route and don't understand why they would only use a 757.

[Edited 2005-02-21 04:51:28]

[Edited 2005-02-21 04:53:09]


Newark Airport...My Home Away From Home
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User currently offlineFalcon84 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7964 times:

I would imagine it's summer season add-on's.

User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7909 times:

I noticed that too. I agree, I think it's a seasonal route. I don't know why they would put a 757 on that route, though. I think atleast a 767 would be suitable for that route. But whaddo I know?!

User currently offline707437 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7892 times:

It is great to see a fine aircraft being used to its full potential and still making money. . . How many other narrowbodies can do this route in mainline service?

The Boutique service PrivatAir excepted.


User currently offlineCOEWRNJ From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1061 posts, RR: 19
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 7866 times:

Does anyone think CO will bring back a morning EWR-LGW flight?

User currently offlineSupa7E7 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 7757 times:

An A319 could do the route easily. That doesn't mean it's a good idea... since each slot pair is worth $100s of millions.

User currently offlineWjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4970 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 7673 times:

You have to pay for "slot pairs" between EWR and Gatwick? Are you sure?

User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7593 times:

Quoting Supa7E7 (reply 5):
An A319 could do the route easily. That doesn't mean it's a good idea... since each slot pair is worth $100s of millions.


Great Circle Mapper lists EWR-LGW at 3483 km, and while I would agree that the A319 could just about do it, it certainly could not do it easily. Privateair with 40 odd passengers does not count compared to the 757 with 172 passengers.


User currently offlineFlyf15 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 7582 times:

Quoting 707437 (reply 3):
It is great to see a fine aircraft being used to its full potential and still making money. . . How many other narrowbodies can do this route in mainline service?


Well, the DC-8, 707, Il-62, VC-10, Concorde, ... to name a few, and lets not forget props such as the DC-7C!

Yes I know, I'm being nitpicky...  Big thumbs up


User currently offlineGilesdavies From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 2985 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7516 times:

Great news!

Nice to see an additional LGW-NYC service as Continental are the only airline operating to the city. I am surprised other carriers have not started a service between LGW and NYC.

The route must be going well...

As last year they operated a 764 and a 777 on the two flights a day, with them offering two 777 services and 752 service this gives them an additional 300+ seats a day in each direction!


User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3843 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7475 times:

i would love to see moring service back on the ewr-lgw route...and to think we used to tdo it with the 764


okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.
User currently offlineCALMSP From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3843 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 7473 times:

on what days is this? im not seeing anyhing yet


okay, I'm waiting for the rich to spread the wealth around to me. Please mail your checks to my house.
User currently offlineDonder10 From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 6659 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7317 times:

When did CO drop the morning EWR-LGW departure?

User currently offlineTpaewr From United States of America, joined May 2001, 450 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7309 times:

CALMSP, try this "MKDEWRLGWD*HA", it will show you full CO schdl for the market

User currently offlineCOEWR2587 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 606 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7298 times:

Donder 10:

"When did they stop morning service?"

After 9/11


[Edited 2005-02-21 14:22:30]


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User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4282 posts, RR: 20
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 7256 times:

A 757 add-on makes perfect sense - it holds essentially the same number of pax as the 762, and is better suited to carrying leisure/holiday traffic (esp. since demand for TATL premium seats becomes very weak during the summer months).


Live life to the fullest.
User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4264 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 7059 times:

Continental have a comparitively small widebody fleet, on earlier threads were lists showing how all 777s and 767s are fully scheduled for services which need the capacity and range of these, often flying two nine hour sectors A DAY. So that's why the only thing CO can do when they add more transatlantic flights is to use a 757 originially flying a domestic or regional route (replacing it by a new 738 or ex ATA 753).


nobody has ever died from hard work, but why take the risk?
User currently offlineGoCOgo From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 701 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 6987 times:

Wow, and I thought CO had something against CLE using a 757 for our seasonal service. Guess if their using a 752 from EWR, too we shouldn't feel so bad. But it is true they do have a small widebody fleet. 18 772s, 10 762s, and 16 764s. They have more 757s alone than total widebodies. What surprizes me it they still have a few 762s of domestic routes. I would think they would pull those for international duty.


"Why you fly is your business, how you fly is ours"
User currently offlineJumboJet From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1159 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6418 times:

"Great Circle Mapper lists EWR-LGW at 3483 km"

Actually Artsyman it's 5606 km,

or 3483 statute miles,

or 3028 nautical miles.


Jumbo  Smile


User currently offlineArtsyman From United States of America, joined Feb 2001, 4745 posts, RR: 35
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6076 times:

Actually Artsyman it's 5606 km, or 3483 statute miles...
**
just a typo... we both had 3483,

j


User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 6017 times:

UA are going to be using a Saab 340 in their new summer schedule under some sort of code-share. That must take a while surely? Mind you, I'd prefer it to getting on a 737 to cross the pond.

User currently offlinePlanesarecool From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2001, 4119 posts, RR: 11
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 5940 times:

During the winter, EWR-LGW is operated by a B777 and a B764, however during the summer it is 2 B777's anyway, so the only addition is the extra flight.

-Stephen


User currently offlineLockheed1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks ago) and read 5824 times:

115JULEWRLGW¤CO
15JUL FRI EWR/EDT LGW/5
CO RESPONSE ** DIRECT CONNECT PARTICIPANT **
7CO 18 J7 D7 Z7 Y7 H7 K7 N7 B7 V7*EWRLGW 650P 640A 1 777 0
U7 Q7 I7 S7 W7
8CO 28 J7 D7 Z7 Y7 H7 K7 N7 B7 V7*EWRLGW 825P 825A 1 777 0
U7 Q7 I7 S7 W7
9CO 104 J7 D0 Z0 Y7 H7 K0 N0 B0 V0*EWRLGW 1000P 1000A 1 757 0


Seasonal Flight!


User currently offlineRamerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks ago) and read 5668 times:

I think this is a great idea for CO. They should use more 752s on the route and conserve widebodies, especially 777s. They will offer the similar capasity with more frequency which translates to more convienant times for biz traqvelers. I can't find the new service on the electronic timetable - and I just downloaded a current schedule too. The 752s have almost and identical amount of seats as the 762s.
757 183 seats, 24 F 159 Y
752 172 seats, 16J/F 156 Y
762 174 seats, 25J/F 149 Y
SR



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User currently offlineA340600 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2003, 4104 posts, RR: 52
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 4 weeks ago) and read 5659 times:

It is a Summer add on. Saying that, I saw a 752 here the other week, something I have not seen in the winter months here at LGW very often,

Sam



Despite the name I am a Boeing man through and through!
25 KFLLCFII : Do you mean 753?
26 AKelley728 : He was talking abou thte domestic version of the CO 757-200, which CO lists in their timetable as '757'.
27 RamerinianAir : Yes indeed - I was referring to the Dom. version. They call the int version a 752 and the dom version a 757. I thought the 757-300 was 752 in the sche
28 COEWR2587 : One of the couple of places you can see the update is on AA's website. If you select "all carriers" when searching flights, you can see it. Props for
29 N1120A : >since each slot pair is worth $100s of millions.Props for AA on letting other airlines use their site as a place to book other airlines. It makes it
30 Falcon84 : on what days is this? im not seeing anything yet. Looking in availibility at work today, it seems to be a Friday/Saturday only flight EWR-LGW, and a S
31 RDUCO : The 762 dom flts usually are btwn mx cntrs. Sending the a/c, lets make a buck. The 757 version will being disappearing. I heard the mx cntrs are sett
32 Ewr767 : actually 752=200 753=300 75B=international
33 ANNOYEDFA : Eventually you will almost never see a 757 let alone wide bodie working a domestic flight unless of course it is for like RDUCO said. Soon CO will be
34 Ewr767 : excuse me let me correct myself actually 757 = 757-200 with 24 F/A seats 75B = 757-200 with Business First 75L = 757 – 300
35 RamerinianAir : In the schedule, the 752 is the 757 configured with the Biz/First seats and the 757 has the standard Domestic first seats. RDUCO, I though that only a
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