Latinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2666 posts, RR: 14 Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1450 times:
If you remember my last thread about European service to GDL and PVR, well it seems like Air Pullmantur decided to return to PVR this summer, but no resumption to GDL. They are a company that concentrates on the all package inclusive beach market, so GDL doesn't serve their purpose. The state of Jalisco will again fork up half of the sum to promote the service to the Spanish market. This confirmed at FITUR.
Meanwhile, MTY and Iberia are in talks again about possible service to the destination. MTY's business/government officials are trying really hard to get IB's attention.
Great news as Mexico seeks to reafirm itself as one of the top tourism destinations to the European market.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 43 Reply 2, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1416 times:
Hi Latinplane. It is good to hear that PVR will get Air Pullmantur service again. Do you happen to know if the flight will be a 100% charter or if it will be possible to buy tickets in Mexico?
MTY has been lobbying hard for non-stop service to Europe. LH was another carrier that was allegedly looking at it as a possible destination. Let's see if this wish comes true. Too bad that AM does not seem to be in a position to connect MTY and Europe at the moment (hopefully in 2006 they can assign a 762ER to this project).
Any chance you will be in Mexico City soon Latinplane?
Latinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2666 posts, RR: 14 Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1356 times:
Well, last year the PVR service was only sold to Spanish customers, while GDL was sold in both countries, so I have no reason to believe this year is different. Demand for MAD from PVR is provably null. If the market is extremely successful this year, Jalisco's government would like for Air Pullmantur to increase its service to twice weekly. Let's just hope that PVR becomes more and more a destination in the minds of the Spanish and European traveler so that each summer and throughout the year, such services are not uncommon sights.
According to several sources, Mexico was extremely successful this year in FITUR and attracted a lot of attention, which should translate into more demand for its destinations from the Spain/Europe market. Mexico expects to see a surge in the demand for its beach destinations this year as a consequence of the Tsunami devastation that hit a lot of the important tourist destinations that compete head on with Mexico. As you know, Cancun reported hotel occupation factors of little below the mid-ninety percentile last year, henceforth, Mexico should start promoting its pacific destinations to this same clientele, which in fact, it's what its doing with this service. You better get them while they're hot!
It is too early to tell if anything will come out of the talks to convince Iberia to fly to MTY, but be sure that sooner or later, it will be a reality. My theory is that if any airline can have the ability to open transatlantic service to MTY or GDL, or any other Mexican destination, it should be IB, first and foremost. IB has the power to capture every person needing to travel to these destinations from any part of Europe and the ability of having Mexicana further feed passengers from other parts of Mexico. The fact that your post states that they are both adding code-shares to different odd cities on both sides of the pond demonstrates that they are finding the demand to be there.
A340 2/3X MAD-MTY-GDL-MAD, something like the Central American run, perhaps?
I don't think that I'll be visiting MEX this year, as far as I know.
EddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7422 posts, RR: 43 Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 1297 times:
Thanks for the precisions re PVR & Air Pullmantur. I guess there is little demand as you say, but if the price is right, maybe people from GDL or even MEX would consider taking a flight to PVR and then the Air Pullmantur service to MAD.
Anyway, at least we can hope that demand for PVR grows in Spain and the frequencies are increased.
I agree that Mexico was extremely successful as FITUR. Aside from having the second largest pavilion, it received an award for best pavilion in the fair. Indeed the tsunami tragedy has created opportunities for Mexico to capture more tourists, so hopefully the government follows up the promotion of Pacific coastline resorts.
If your plans regarding Mexico City change, please let me know. I also don't have any plans to visit L.A. this year, but if something comes up I'll let you know.
Latinplane From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2666 posts, RR: 14 Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1244 times:
Well, I don't think Air Pullmantur is really interested in selling tickets to the Mexican public. I don't think, but don't know for sure, that they sell tickets on their twice weekly CUN-MAD route either. I guess that there are extra cost involved in setting up a system of selling tickets to the general public. Their packages are all sold thru travel agents and on-line reservation services. That's just their business niche. I don't know why there is an: Air Comet, Air Pullmantur, and Spanair (am I forgetting another one?) all part of the same mother company. I guess they all have their own niche to fulfill.
Before Air Pullmantur's inception, in the summer 2001, Air Plus Comet chartered an Aerolineas Argentinas' A340 to fly the MAD-PVR route.
I fully agree. Mexico is doing a great thing by investing to promote and market itself in such types of tradeshows. That award means a lot and grabs the attention of the big decision makers like the corporate's of "Iberia". Hopefully, it will translate in new possibilities for the country (i.e., tourism sector, the economy, the people). I work for a company that produces tradeshows and I do my best to help out our Mexican exhibitors, or any Latin American exhibitor for that matter, just by doing little things I can like translating for them if they need help. Just my little grain of salt, to change things for the better.
It would be a pleasure to meet you. If you're in town, let me know.