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EWR Or JFK?  
User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4224 times:

Hi

I am writing this thread on behalf of a friend i have who has some sort of business. He is planning on flying to NewYork from Paris and would like to know if its quicker to get to downtown manhattan via JFK or EWR . He plans on getting to the center either via a cab or via the train . what would be best for him. thanks in advance


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User currently offlineUnitedRhapsody From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 27 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4205 times:

In my experience, JFK is much quicker by road, Just my experience.....EWR is not that far away from Manhattan, and usually doesn't take that long. However, with New York traffic it's pretty unpredicable.

You can take a train to/from JFK or EWR into/out of Manhattan.

These may help:

http://www.airtrainnewark.com
&
http://www.panynj.gov/airtrain

[Edited 2005-02-22 23:54:26]

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 2, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4201 times:

To downtown Manhattan you should go with EWR, it is about a 12 to 20 minute ride to the City. From JFK about 45 minutes. I usually go to JFK but if he need to get to downtown quickets go with EWR.


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User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

As someone who gets into this once a month--THIS IS A STUPID THREAD!!!
It does nothing but start an argument between Kennedy and Newark fans. It has been run dozens of times!!!

But one more time:

Both have trains: AirTrain JFK/ AirTrain Newark
Both are 15-16 miles from Manhattan
Both can take as little as 20 minutes to get to or as long as 2 hours depending on taffic/route

Do a search!


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 4, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4179 times:

Do they both have a train to Penn station ?


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User currently offlineFlyguy1 From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1743 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4175 times:

Alitalia:
12-20 minute ride? At 3am maybe on a tuesday night maybe.



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User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4169 times:

I'd say EWR because than you can take the "air train" thing or whatever it's called.

User currently offlineAAFLT1871 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 2333 posts, RR: 10
Reply 7, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4171 times:

Quoting RootsAir (reply 4):
Do they both have a train to Penn station ?



Yes, they do.



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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4158 times:

From EWR, take the airtrain (the monorail system that connects the terminals) to the train station. From there, either NJTransit ($12 each way) or Amtrak (more than $12) will take you into Penn Station in Manhattan. Buses are available, but they can be subject to traffic delays. The trains are much more reliable.

There has been talk at JFK of getting trains out to it, but I have not done it. JFKLGANYC, if you have an update on the train situation, I'd like to hear it. I don't know if it is complete, or if a required train change at Jamaica, Queens, is necessary.

As for the airports themselves, both have undergone renovations, and are both great airports (there - no one can start an EWR vs. JFK war now!!). Both are equally able to process their passengers in a timely fashion, so the choice is up to you.

Safe travels!!  Big thumbs up



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User currently offlineGothamSpotter From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 586 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Do they both have a train to Penn station?

Neither has a direct link to Penn Station.

JFK: AirTrain to subway to Penn Station = over an hour
AirTrain to Long Island Rail Road to Penn Station = about 40-45 minutes

EWR: AirTrain to New Jersey Transit train = about 40-45 minutes

As mentioned in a previous post, neither is superior than the other when it comes to travel to/from Manhattan.


User currently offlineAlb222 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4130 times:

One advantage of JFK to me is the flat rate cab ride. Even if there is traffic, at least you are in a cab and you know what you're paying.

User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 4106 times:

From JFK the cab to the city with traffic around the LGA area is about 45 minutes.

From EWR to NYC it is about a 30 minute drive. From Nyack, New York it is only a 25 or 30 minute drive with some traffic to the city, and a 35 minute drive to EWR. So it has to be shorter then that from EWR!



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User currently offlineBobster2 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4029 times:

> One advantage of JFK to me is the flat rate cab ride

My taxi ride from EWR was flat rate plus tolls.


User currently offlineAlb222 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 4011 times:

Quoting Bobster2 (reply 12):
> One advantage of JFK to me is the flat rate cab ride



Out of curiousity, what is the fare and tolls from EWR?


User currently offlineZOTAN From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 612 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 4002 times:

Just pick the cheapest flight. The time from both airports to Manhattan is about the same and does 10-15 minutes really matter that much?

User currently offlineJFKLGANYC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 15, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 3996 times:

Actually, the JFK rail link is far superior then the EWR one.

More options:

Once you get to Jamaica you can take the subway "E" Line for $2. Stops at Van Wyck, Union Tpke, Continental Ave, Roosevelt Ave, Queens Plaza, Ely Ave . . . and then Lexington Ave MANHATTAN. From Jamaica this is 20 minutes to Manhattan because it is an Express Train.

Add on the $5 and 15 minutes for the AirTrain portion and you get a total of $7 and 40 minutes to Lexington Ave on the East Side of Manhattan.

This is by far the CHEAPEST and MOST EFFICIENT mass transit trip from any of the three airports into Manhattan. Keep in mind that the subway runs every 3 minutes at rush hour, every 5 min throughout the day and every 15 min at night--24 hours a day.

If you want to spend a few more dollars you can hop on the Long Island RR from Jamaica and be in Penn Station in Manhattan on the WEST SIDE in 20 minutes. If you catch an Express train (no stops at all between the two stations) you will be there in less then 20 minutes.

Newark doesnt have the options.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 3962 times:

"From Jamaica [the E train] is 20 minutes to Manhattan"

MTA says 28 minutes from the end of the line to Lex-- what's that, one stop farther?

"the subway runs every 3 minutes at rush hour, every 5 min throughout the day"

MTA says every 4-6 min rush hour, 6-8 min midday.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 17, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 3969 times:

"Actually, the JFK rail link is far superior then the EWR one."

While the JFK light rail system technology is superior that's where the advantage stops, the layout of the EWR system is smaller and more conveinent.

The Newark Airport Airtrain has it's own Rail link station for Airport passengers only, everyone boarding or exiting are heading for the airport. There is no street or foot access, also the Rail link station (where Airtrain meets Amtrak/NJ Transit) is less than a 1/4 mile from CO's Terminal C.

The Newark Airtrain station sits on Amtrak's Northeast corridor, while not the French TGV the Northeast corridor is superior to the LIRR's tracks. NJ Transit EMU's offer vastly superior performance and reliability compared to the LIRR's which use third rail technology and slower performing EMUs.

Newark Airport can be reached directly by rail from as far North as Boston and Springfield Mass, as far West as Harrisburg PA, and as far South as North Carolina.

Amtrak offers hourly service to Newark airport from all along it's Northeast regional network, NJ Transit offers direct service from NY Penn, Trenton, Princeton, the Jersey Shore as well as connecting service from Rockland and Orange Counties NY via Secaucus Transfer.

Newark Airport Rail link station, Amtrak HHP-8 pulling a Northeast Regional train on the left. On the Right an NJ Transit Arrow III EMU heading South/West bound towards Princeton and Trenton.




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User currently offlineIluv747400 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 372 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 3945 times:

Newark has other options
Quoting JFKLGANYC (reply 15):
Newark doesnt have the options.


There are other options from Newark. If you take the NJ Transit train one stop north from EWR to Newark Penn Station, which costs $6.80, you could then switch to the PATH train (stands for Port Authority Trans Hudson, a separate subway system which connects NJ to Manhattan). It offers quick service to the World Trade Center (or where it once was, still the name of the station) for $1.50. The PATH trains also serve several stops on the lower West Side ending at 33rd Street (just south of Penn Station).


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (9 years 10 months 1 day ago) and read 3929 times:

"the Rail link station (where Airtrain meets Amtrak/NJ Transit) is less than a 1/4 mile from CO's Terminal C."

Maybe 0.8 mile, as the crow flies.

Amtrak/NJT beats LIRR in many respects, but if you're just riding to Manhattan LIRR is about as fast.


User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 6902 posts, RR: 7
Reply 20, posted (9 years 10 months 23 hours ago) and read 3917 times:

"If you take the NJ Transit train one stop north from EWR to Newark Penn Station, which costs $6.80, you could then..."

To get to Newark Penn Station, just take the #62 NJTransit bus. It's about as frequent as the train, takes little if any longer (one seat instead of two) and costs $1.10 (?).


User currently offlineRJpieces From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 10 months 22 hours ago) and read 3851 times:

In deciding between JFK and EWR, look at the airline and aircraft as well. JFK generally features the flagship services of many airlines where as EWR is just any other N. American station.

What airline is your friend flying?


User currently offlineLrgt From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 711 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 3804 times:

Quoting RJpieces (reply 21):
JFK generally features the flagship services of many airlines where as EWR is just any other N. American station.


The last time I checked Air France flies into BOTH EWR and JFK, plus EWR has CO and AI too. I would actually consider EWR more of a flagship. AFTER ALL, Singapore Airlines' longest flight in the world is to EWR (NOT JFK) ...speaking of flagship, I think they settled it!

Typically flights to EWR book first and they try to push you to JFK for the lowest fare.

I would take AF to EWR so you get an A340, since they use 777 into JFK....STRANGE but that is the way they do it. If you want the 777 you can still go to Newark, but take CO. If you want a 747, take Air India to EWR.



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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16907 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (9 years 10 months 21 hours ago) and read 3793 times:

"JFK generally features the flagship services of many airlines where as EWR is just any other N. American station."

CO launching EWR-Hong Kong in March '01, at the time the longest nonstop in the World.

Singapore Air Currently has the longest nonstop with their EWR-Singapore Service.

CO just received rights to launch EWR-Beijing this year.



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User currently offlineAMS From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1692 posts, RR: 11
Reply 24, posted (9 years 10 months 16 hours ago) and read 3716 times:

EWR should be more quicker to Manhatten

Regards,
AMS


25 RJpieces : I would take AF to EWR so you get an A340, since they use 777 into JFK AF's 777s have more premium seats. They use the A340 on lower yielding routes.
26 NYCFlyer : ugh. JFKLGANYC, you called it, this thread started a JFK vs. EWR war. Almost as bad as A vs. B!! I'll throw my 2 cents in: if you're taking a cab, JFK
27 STT757 : Unless you consider Concordeboy to be a source of facts it's still just his take on the matter, it was never published or stated by anyone anywhere e
28 STT757 : UAL launched the JFK-HKG flight AFTER CO launched their EWR-HKG route, it was in response to CO. UAL's JFK-HKG flight did not last very long, a hasty
29 JFKLGANYC : STT757, New day, new Bullsh*t from you. A long time ago I gave up trying to have a rational conversation with you. So for STT's sake: Newark is the NY
30 Post contains images Alb222 :
31 Deltaamtrak058 : There is also a bus from EWR to Port Authority Bus Terminal. That takes you right into the heart of the city. But all depends on traffic..the cost is
32 ZRH : By train I don't know. By car it takes the same time and always depends on traffic, you never know. The advantage of JFK is that the taxis are much ch
33 N62NA : This is strange. Last September or so I was charged $55 (plus toll + tip). Back in December, it was back to $45 (plus toll +tip).
34 ZRH : From JFK to any place in NYC they have a flat rate (it was $ 35 almost two years ago, I don't know how much it is now). From down-town to airport the
35 N62NA : Yeah, well I made sure to check the last time I took the cab to midtown Manhattan from JFK back in December. Posted fare was $45 flat rate. Will prob
36 NYCFlyer : yes, the rate increased from $35 to $45 a year ago, when all cab fares when up 25%. with toll and tip, $45 becomes $55. that's why I take the train!
37 Alb222 : A little high for one person; great when you have more than 1. Take Super Shuttle if there is only one person. As a side note, I am 12 miles from SJC,
38 STT757 : From EWR to Manhattan, flat rates not including tolls. Battery -- West 58th Street.....$40.00 West 35th Street -- West 58th Street.....$45.00 West 59t
39 Flyguy1 : The cab driver will ask you whether you prefer to take the tunnel, or bridge.
40 STT757 : How would you go?.. I usually don't take the Mid-Town tunnel to JFK because Im usually coming from NJ so I go through Staten Island. However on the f
41 RDUDDJI : This has been discussed in countless other threads. My vote is JFK. It's really easy now with the airtrain thing. Single transfer to get to the E?(may
42 Flyguy1 : STT: I would take the midtown tunnel, as its much easier to travel through. If I was in a cab, I might go with the Q-Boro bridge to save a few bucks.
43 ZRH : Ok the flat rate (plus toll and tip) still exists (now $ 45). It always depends on where you have to go. I often went to east 96th street, for this p
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