Ktachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1855 posts, RR: 1 Posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 7139 times:
This is so miraculous. I thought JL's turn around time (most airports in North America are 1h 55 min) is relatively short but I saw JL18 landing from NRT today with a 30 min delay and they managed to push out the plane on time!!!
That is about 10 min to taxi into the gate so the plane was in the gate for about 1h 20 min and they turned it around.
I know that the turn-around time of a 744D is 40 minutes which is miraculous but they can refuel, do interior cleaning, get cargo unloaded and loaded, inspect the parts of the planes, etc. in that short of a time?
Can anyone else tell me about ridiculously short turn around times they have seen? 1h 20 min to me on a long-haul international routes seems like a miracle to me.
On the other hand, CI landed 40 minutes late today and they also departed 40 minutes late.
ACYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 7019 times:
Yep. sometimes they can spin em' around pretty quick. Though there are some long ones. I remember the AC 333 that flys out of YYC for LHR. That plane lands in YYC at about 14:00 Local, and doesn't leave until 18:30 Local. But I guess thats alright since all that plane does is fly to London, turnaround and fly to Calgary, then turnaround and do the same thing again.
Ktachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1855 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 6821 times:
Are you sure that's the same A333 that flies in from LHR? Well I am not sure about this but a few years back, AC used to have a flight YVR-YYC on an A340-300. The ATC asked the guy, you guys fly in 737's, A320's all the time into YYC and why is this one this huge. Then the CO or the Captain replied, "Its a repositioning flight." So is it not the case that the A333 lands in YYC and flies somewhere else while another Airbus 330 comes in and flies to LHR?
How long of a ground time was it then? 1h 30 min or so?
ACYWG From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6706 times:
No, its definitely the same metal. There are 3 Europe bound flights per day out of YYC (I've flown on all of them). 1 A333 bound for FRA at around 5:00PM Local, 1 A333 bound for LHR at 6:30PM, and 1 763ER bound for LHR at 9:00PM Local. All 3 aircraft once at destination, turnaround and return to the YYC. Separate Aircraft are used for the same flights originating for YVR, YYZ, YOW, and YUL.
Airgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 6670 times:
I've seen some planes that got in, refueled EXTREMELY quickly while pax were deplaning, than we all walked right on, and left. The plane musthave only been on the ground for about 35-50 min! It was amazing to watch.
Ha763 From United States of America, joined Jan 2003, 3735 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 6521 times:
JAL does this all the time in HNL. Many of the extra section or charter flights that come in and out as pax flights have ground times averaging 1hr 20min. Some of these were even ETOPS flights. Ferry out flights are even shorter since many times the pilots want to leave as soon as possible. I've seen one ferry turn in 1hr-no cleaning, a little catering for the crew, and all the maintenance checks done.
SLC1 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6464 times:
A WN flght thanksgiving weekend from SEA-SLC had been delayed 2-3 hrs due to weather and system-wide delays. The plane pulled in, they deboarded in 5-10 minutes, boarded in another 5-10, and pulled away from the gate immedately after, little more than 20 minutes at the gate.
XJRamper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2505 posts, RR: 46
Reply 11, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 6454 times:
Acars is a computer system on board the aircraft that dispatch can send messages, log their time--by way of parking break set/release, etc. Good system, makes it easier in the long run.
I dont know what the abbreviation is tho...sorry.
Edit: I forgot to answer the post:
I remember when I worked for Delta connexion, when we had our 70 seaters, they always seemed to be late, full of pax, and in need of fuel. We could turn the aircraft around, minus cleaning it, in 8-10 mins. Thats was average. That also included taking 70 people off, putting 70 people back on, unloading at least 70 bags and reloading at leat that many, plus get the paperwork out, etc. All in all 8 mins or so.
MEL From Canada, joined Oct 1999, 1107 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6391 times:
Regarding Air Canada in Calgary, generally, the London-Calgary flight turns in Calgary and departs back to London, but when the aircraft arrives in London, it generally is assigned to a different route. AC850 Calgary-London turns as AC865 London-Montreal a lot. Sometimes it does turn around directly and does AC851 London-Calgary, but certainly not all the time.
The A340-300 running Vancouver-Calgary was a regular occurence during the past few summers. Often you'd see B763s aswell. Most of the time, the Vancouver-Calgary leg would make up one of the Calgary-Europe departures, and vice versa, but these days, they don't run many/if any Calgary-Vancouver widebody flights.
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3798 posts, RR: 13
Reply 14, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 5783 times:
I was waiting for a delayed UA express flight in LNK going to ORD on New Year's Eve. The RJ arrived with three passengers aboard, as soon as they left the ten passengers got on, including me, and the plane was left the gate less than fifteen minutes after arriving...
At the time I wasn't fascinated by the whole thing, since the flight was delayed more than 45 mins, and I would have about 30 mins to get to my connecting flight, an AA 767 to MAN...
Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
CosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2268 posts, RR: 15
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3334 times:
For jetboyflyhi....ACARS is the acronym for Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System. It is multi-function system that allows comm with dispatch, obtaining wx (atis,metar,taf,etc) and clearances, flt tracking and closeout, wgt. and balance and maint. tracking.
Smcmac32msn From United States of America, joined May 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 4
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3113 times:
I remember turning a US flight at MSN that was 45 minkutes late, in only 8 minutes. The actual ground time was like 20 while the pilots did the rest of the paperwork and taxi time. Load the outbound bags in cart 2, inbound in 1.... you figure the rest.
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