Summa767 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2004, 2671 posts, RR: 5
Reply 1, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 4155 times:
AV used to have a non-stop flight LAX-BOG till a couple of years ago. At some point the flight was tried with a stop in MEX. It was one of the flights chopped when the company became financially troubled.
MIA has a larger pupulation of Colombians than LA does, and hence the difference.
I do trust that LAX is one of the routes that will be restarted now that AV has new ownership and good prospects.
In the meantime, take your pick: CO, DL or even MX/AV thorugh MEX.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 28854 posts, RR: 74
Reply 3, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4113 times:
>And Miami has non-stops to Cali, Cartagena, Baranquilla, and Colombia.<
Also to Medelin
>Miami has the world's largest Colombian community. It's not that difficult to understand.<
Kind of, I would think that would be in Colombia .
BOG-LAX is on AV's list of destinations for the near future. While not having as significant a Colombian community as Miami, LA has a massive Latin community, heavier business traffic and a fair sized Colombian population
Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
AV757 From Colombia, joined Apr 2004, 666 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4111 times:
AV used to operate three flights a week on Boeing 757/767´s from BOG-LAX-BOG during the Christmas season as a non stop and the rest of the year via BOG-MEX-LAX-MEX-BOG, once it was even operated BOG-CUN-LAX-CUN-BOG. The main passenger group who used the route where in transit passengers from South America through to Asia via LAX.
Since the mandatory transit visa for the majority of the Latin American countries was placed by the US, everybody is going via Canada, Mexico or Europe to catch connections to the orient.
Passenger loads where only good for summer vacation and Christmas time when the Colombians residing in the California area traveled to visit their kin, the rest of the year they where extremely low.
Danimarroquin From Colombia, joined Jan 2005, 452 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 4042 times:
Well I'm sure AV will go back to LAX , now that has a new owner and president .
The future is very bright for AV at MCO the Colombia community is growing very fast too , I am sure that AV or other colombian airline will come to MCO soon.
Also , I thought that today was the day that AV will show the new colors.
Planenutz From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4022 times:
I flew LAX-MEX-BOG on AV back in 1998. It was on a 757 with the stop in MEX for 50 minutes. Both my outgoing and return flights were fully packed, with a lot off passengers making connections to GIG, EZE, GRU, and LIM.
Too bad AV axed this route. It was one of the few "exotics" left. The plane used to park at Terminl 2's gate 21. perfect for pics.
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5949 posts, RR: 34
Reply 8, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 4015 times:
nice and intresting to hear this about LAX...
now I would love to know why some days ago I was critisized about the matter that I mentioned that California can support at least a daily B737-800 AA from DFW to MIA. Better if they receive a direct link, because there is the demand and no as mentioned on the other topic that California has a very small Colombian community...
Avianca From Venezuela, joined Jan 2005, 5949 posts, RR: 34
Reply 16, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 3852 times:
Quoting MAH4546 (reply 15): Avianca's third US gateway: Fort Lauderdale. And San Juan is up there too, I bet.
maybe they can open San Juan again with the new Fokker100 aircrafts.
But SJU is not that big market from Colombia, for sure they are focusing before other citys in the US, like LAX, BOS, ATL or even ORD.
Laxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 28490 posts, RR: 50
Reply 17, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 3822 times:
In population terms the NYC metro area has the largest Colombian population within the US with approximately 190,000 people. South Florida comes in second with nearly 160,000. Far away in third place is the LA area with about 35,000.
Avianca indeed has tried to make the LAX route work for several decades. As mentioned by prior posters the loads however have been quite varied due to the seasonal nature of the market. There were long periods of the year when the flight would be carrying less than 50 people. Hence the airline has tried to tie in the LA route as a tag to its Mexico City services.
However as the airline experienced severe financial difficulties within the last few years it has been forced to cut the LA route.
In general terms while Los Angeles has a huge Latino population, the majority are from Mexico and Central America. The South America population pale in comparison to the millions from Mexico and Central America.
From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 34363 posts, RR: 70
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3754 times:
Quoting Laxintl (reply 17): In population terms the NYC metro area has the largest Colombian population within the US with approximately 190,000 people. South Florida comes in second with nearly 160,000. Far away in third place is the LA area with about 35,000.
The largest legal resident population of Colombians in the US is Miami/Fort Lauderdale, with 100,000 legal residents. In addition, there are roughly 120,000 non-US citizen Colombians living in Miami.
MIASkies From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 1415 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 3742 times:
LRQT: going back to what you said about being AV being # 2 carrier with most flights out of MIA after AA (Of Course!), im sure they are right up there w/ LAN that has multiple flights to points all over South America, Grupo TACA to Central America and Peru.
But AV does have a very large presence at MIA! I remember seeing the classic AV 707's and 742's at MIA back in the earrrrrrrly 90's and 80's.