SXFAN From Greece, joined Jan 2004, 365 posts, RR: 22 Posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2299 times:
I read on an internet encyclopedia that Olympic was the first airline that flew towards all 5 continents is it true and when did it happen?
I also read that they used to have a Yak 40 during the 70s is there any photo is it true as well?
Cheers
Vasilis.
AeroWesty From United States, joined Oct 2004, 15634 posts, RR: 66 Reply 2, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2261 times:
Seeing as how OA didn't even come about until 1957, and Pan Am was operating to all the inhabited continents by 1948 (possibly even earlier), it would seem to be wrong.
RamerinianAir From United States, joined Nov 2003, 1475 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2261 times:
I don't know if this makes a difference but, the Australian flights aren't from the US "technically". I appears that the flights are from islands that are classified as Ocenea or Australian(in reference to continent). OAs service would of been direct from ATH.
SR
ACAfan From United States, joined Apr 2004, 709 posts, RR: 9 Reply 6, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 2227 times:
Even older route map, with service to New Zealand (oceania) with the flying boats. By looking at the pic I don't know whether Casablanca (africa) is touched or not.
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ACAfan From United States, joined Apr 2004, 709 posts, RR: 9 Reply 11, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2163 times:
Only schoolchildren living in the United States separate America into two continents. Schoolchildren everywhere else in the world count America as one.
IINM, in Latin America, "Las Americas" is the terminology, even though Las Americas is counted as a single continent on par with Europe, Africa, etc.
The five olympic rings represent the five continents, America counted as one.
The continent southeast of Asia has several names. Some call it Australia (Americans). Others call it Australasia (British), and use this term to include New Zealand, etc.
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TWA902fly From United States, joined Dec 1999, 2860 posts, RR: 3 Reply 13, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2088 times:
you know, im russian and i definately seperate north america and south america into two continents... i think you'd more likely consider europe asia as one continent than north/south america... or if the suez canal didnt exist... africa/europe/asia are all one... as well as north/south america... and considering the theory that australia and antarctica are islands... that leaves us with two continents... and most major airlines fly to both of them
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Ha763 From United States, joined Jan 2003, 2802 posts, RR: 8 Reply 14, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2084 times:
Quoting ACAfan (reply 11): Only schoolchildren living in the United States separate America into two continents. Schoolchildren everywhere else in the world count America as one.
I'm going off topic, but I actually find this quite strange seeing that it is accepted in science that North and South America are on seperate major tectonic plates and are were seperate landmasses when Pangea fragmented. On the other hand, Europe and Asia are on the same major tectonic plate and doesn't seem to have seperated at anytime during their drift, but we all still consider them as seperate continents.
LOT767-300ER From Poland, joined Jan 2001, 8140 posts, RR: 40 Reply 15, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2020 times:
"Only schoolchildren living in the United States separate America into two continents. Schoolchildren everywhere else in the world count America as one."
What the flip are you talking about? I have rarely seen anyone around the world label the 2 America's as one.
Calvin99 From Hong Kong SAR, PRC, joined Sep 2001, 200 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1996 times:
Quoting LOT767-300ER (reply 15): What the flip are you talking about? I have rarely seen anyone around the world label the 2 America's as one
Thats probably because you come from US. All geography text book in Hong Kong listed there are only 5 continents, with North and South America being a single continent.
The 5 olympic rings on reply 11 is one of the evidence. The 5 rings represent each continent. If North and South America are seperated, shouldn't there be 6 rings? But I only see 5..
AeroWesty From United States, joined Oct 2004, 15634 posts, RR: 66 Reply 17, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
There are some who think the 5 rings represent the continents, and some who do not.
The five rings represent the five major regions of the world: Africa, the Americas, Asia, Europe, and Oceania. Every national flag in the world includes at least one of the five colors, which are (from left to right) blue, yellow, black, green, and red. It is important to emphasize that Pierre de Coubertin never said nor wrote that the colors of the rings were linked with the different continents
Flying-b773 From Singapore, joined Apr 2001, 381 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1940 times:
Comon, Lets not turn this thread into a geography session with regards to how many continents there are..... America is indeed 2 continents, North and South. Been taught that since young..
Anyway What are the airlines NOW that flies to all continents except antartica? I mean physically land, and does not include sight seeing, code share..
Qantas077 From Australia, joined Jan 2004, 5486 posts, RR: 54 Reply 19, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1921 times:
the actual saying was "Olympic Airways, The Airline Of 5 Continents" that was in reference to the rings on the tail, although they didn't actually fly to all 5 continents, it was more just a symbolic thing.
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0A340 From United States, joined Nov 2000, 259 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1884 times:
Back to the original topic, indeed in the early 70's OA was actually flying to five continents, with JFK & YYL in the America(s), SYD & MEL in Australia, JNB, Nairobi, CAI in Africa, SIN and M.E. destinations in Asia and lots of EU destinations.
The motto was kept thru the 80's even when the Aussie flights were suspented, and re-surrected in the early 90's when BKK, Tokyo, BOS, ORD, Toronto were added to the long-range network. Of course all this was short-lived, designed with low-frequency, multi-stop B742 operations, when the world was moving towards high-frequency, non-stop B767-sized operations, with alliances and high-quality service being in top priorities.
All these were absent from the minds of the -90's style operations. What would you expect from state-fed managers, blackmailed by unions and afraid of public opinion.
Parisien From France, joined Dec 2000, 813 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1844 times:
hm i love the route map of Pan Am (d'ACA Fan). Just wondering, did not PA fly Jakarta Sydney and on to the US ? (this JKT SYD route did not seem to appear on the map) ?With the B707. This according to a relative who knows airplanes and route coz she used to work for TWA back, as she said, in the good old days when flying was fun and people dressed up to go to the airport !!
Delta777Jet From Germany, joined Jun 2000, 888 posts, RR: 1 Reply 22, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1802 times:
I would like to see Olympic on all continents again (JFK,BOS,ORD,LAX,YYY;YUL;GRU,GIG,EZE,SIN,BKK,KUL,HKG,NRT,KIX,SYD,MEL,JNB,CPT!) with a fleet of A-340/330 or 787/777 ! WOuld be great!!!!!!!
And by the way I`m from Germany and I did learn in Germany that Northamerica and Southamerica are two continents!!!!
Geoffm From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 2111 posts, RR: 10 Reply 23, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 1778 times:
Instead of arguing about how many continents there are, how about looking it up? Here's an explanation of why different cultures count the continents differently:
Jet-lagged From Japan, joined Mar 2002, 731 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1694 times:
Isn't Australia just a really really big island? That would mean there are five continents - Asia/Europe, Africa, North Amercia, South America, Antarctica.
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3254 posts, RR: 14 Reply 25, posted (4 years 9 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 1661 times:
Could sombody enlighten the rest of us just how in the Name of Beef, Olympic could have flown ATH-SYD nonstop? Because if they didn't, (which would have been impossible), it falls under the same categories as PanAm's pacigic flights, as flights with stop-overs...
mats
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26 KYAir: The original post does not state the airline had to fly to all continents from it's home country. Therefore, stopovers are not an issue so PA is the w
27 TWA902fly: somebody asked the question of which airlines currently fly to all the continents excluding antarctica... these come to mind and im sure there's more
28 Carduelis: Currently, British Airways. Previously, BOAC, at least in 1961 when I started as crew with them, but doubtless a long time before! I also used to oper