Independence Air says Charlotte already has a low-fare carrier
Hey, who you calling a high-fare carrier?
Independence Air on Friday said it will "consider legal action" against AirTran Airways, after AirTran sent out a news release proclaiming AirTran as the "only low-fare carrier serving Charlotte." A banner at Charlotte/Douglas International Airport on Thursday made the same claim.
Independence Air, considered by most in the industry to be a low-fare carrier, started flights to Charlotte from its Washington hub in October. Fares to its hub are as low as $118 round-trip, the same price AirTran is charging to its hubs in Atlanta and Baltimore.
"We still don't know whether they have made this error out of ignorance or dishonesty, but either way, it's completely unacceptable to us, and absolutely untrue," said Independence spokesman Rick DeLisi.
In response, AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson implied that Independence will not be around in the future, a concern shared by some industry analysts because its expenses have been higher than its revenues.
Hutcheson said: "In order to offer low fares long-term, you have to be a low-cost carrier. We are a low-cost carrier and can offer low fares."
Atrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5717 posts, RR: 52
Reply 1, posted (10 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7690 times:
Hmmh, what a nice way to predict your fellow competitors by saying they won't be around in time. Fact is..Indy IS there, and they ARE a LCC. Simple as that, AirTran is at fault for this, but I don't think FlyI should be sueing them or anything of the sort, fi they are smrat they will release a press release celebrating CLT, like FL did at PHL, when WN had started service.
Good things come to those who wait, better things come to those who go AFTER it!
NUAir From Malaysia, joined Jun 2000, 1181 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (10 years 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 7671 times:
"In response, AirTran spokesman Tad Hutcheson implied that Independence will not be around in the future, a concern shared by some industry analysts because its expenses have been higher than its revenues."
As much as I agree with him the ad did say low-fare not low-cost airline and its not saying they are the "only low-fare airline serving Charlotte in the future" its saying right now.
Pay Indy the $10 and get on with life.
"How Many Assholes we got on this ship?" - Lord Helmet
Starrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1139 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (10 years 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7520 times:
Airtran should just tell the truth: We thought FlyI would be gone by the time this ad campaign came out. We were disagreeably surprised to see them still here when our campaign came out. We expect this problem to fix itself soon enough.
CasInterest From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4937 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (10 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7231 times:
Quoting AS739X (reply 8): We have running bets at SFO about wether we will actually ever see there planes land May 1st. I voted against it!
If there current predictions for Feb and March hold up, I think you are going to loose that bet. There have been a lot of crazy questions about what is going to happen this year. So far US Airways is still alive, United is still alive, and Indy is still alive. However, Southwest and Airtran seem to be continuing the cannibalization of US Air money routes.
Older than I just was ,and younger than I will soo be.
RAmerinianair From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1486 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (10 years 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 7126 times:
If IAir was smart, they would fire back with we are the only "Ultra Low Fare" carriers in Charlotte. This isn't even close to the worst thing I've even seen in advertising. iAir-Get over it and fire back.
Tango-Bravo From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 3810 posts, RR: 27
Reply 14, posted (10 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6902 times:
Quoting Bicoastal (reply 4): They are (defying basic economics) a Low FARE Carrier with HIGH costs.
...US Airways and United are evolving toward the same -- in spite of billion$ in labor concessions they have wangled from behind the cover of bankruptcy laws that are nothing short of inherently corrupt, or have been corrupted by the manner in which the provisions of the law have been applied.
Qwerty From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 387 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (10 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6883 times:
Quoting Tango-Bravo (reply 14): ...US Airways and United are evolving toward the same -- in spite of billion$ in labor concessions they have wangled from behind the cover of bankruptcy laws that are nothing short of inherently corrupt, or have been corrupted by the manner in which the provisions of the law have been applied.
Sure beats assured unemployment. But finding a better job beats even that.
There is no guarantee of employment anywhere in the U.S. code you seem to despise. If you don't like being a ticket agent with a major carrier, QUIT!
Elwood64151 From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2477 posts, RR: 5
Reply 20, posted (10 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6846 times:
Quoting Qwerty (reply 13): This is in-the-trenches marketing to get PR. And it worked. Y'all are talking about Indy and Charlotte.
You're absolutely right. They're going to "consider legal action." Meaning they've already considered it and decided against it...
As for if INDY will still be around in a year, I'm not convinced either way what's going to happen to them. If you know anything about the fall of Vanguard, you know that it was the success of the airline that actually killed it. Credit card companies became concerned about protecting themselves against a bankruptcy (as good Finance people do) and so began forcing the collateralization of 125% of its sales. In other words, we went into a negative cash-flow situation as sales increased to the point of profitability! INDY could easily suffer a similar fate...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it in summer school.
AirTran737 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 3711 posts, RR: 12
Reply 21, posted (10 years 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 6824 times:
Screw Indy Air. The may charge low fares, but their costs are high. Therefore it is a correct thing to say that AirTran is the only LCC in town. If We had said that we are the only low fare carrier then Indy Air may have something to cry about. Kudos to Tad for speaking his mind regarding his feelings towards Indy Air.
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