Hardiwv From Brazil, joined Oct 2004, 8780 posts, RR: 51 Posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2812 times:
I undertand that the following are the major commercial airlines in China:
CA Air China
MU China Eastern Airlines
CJ China Northern Airlines
WH China Northwest Airlines
CZ China Southern Airlines
SZ China Southwest Airlines
XO China Xinjiang Airlines
3Q China Yunnan Airlines
Would you consider Cathay Pacific part of these group? What about Taiwan-based China Airlines?
As far as I know none of these are member of an international alliance, correct? Could anyone clarify which is the best of these in terms of reliability, quality, service and international network. Also, which of these has the worst record?
Do Chinese airlines compete in the Chinese market, or the Government interferes in the market. Are they all Government owned airlines?
Is CA subtantially bigger than the others? Is there any foreign airline operating domestic flights in China?
KEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 29 Reply 1, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2741 times:
Many smaller airlines in China have been taken over by the bigger ones over the recent years.
China Southwest Airlines -> now part of Air China
China Zhejiang Airlines -> now part of Air China
China Northern Airlines -> now part of China Southern
China Xinjiang Airlines -> now part of China Southern
China Yunnan Airlines -> now part of China Southern
China Northwest Airlines -> now part of China Eastern
China Xinhua Airlines -> now part of Hainan Airlines
China Shanxi Airlines -> now part of Hainan Airlines
Other major Chinese carriers that I can think of :-
Because of these mergers, China Southern, China Eastern and Hainan Airlines are no longer considered regional airlines because they have gained new hubs all over the country. I wouldn't be surprised if CZ is the biggest airline in China, but I'll let others confirm on this.
One could be forgiven for thinking that Hainan Airlines serve mainly from its base on Hainan island. It's certainly true in the past but not anymore. A look at their present route network and it could have easily been mistaken as the network for the national 'flagship' carrier of China. The same goes for CZ. In fact, out of the these 3 airlines - CA, CZ & HU, it seems that CA has the smallest domestic network.
Would it be a good idea if these former regional airlines change their name to a broader name a la Air China? Maybe "China Airways" or something like that. Having the word 'southern' or 'eastern' doesn't do their network justice (ok it's a different case altogether for NW & WN ). Just my 2 cents anyway.
Quoting Hardiwv (reply 0): Would you consider Cathay Pacific part of these group? What about Taiwan-based China Airlines?
Depends how you see it (be careful when talking about Taiwan/China issues coz some people might get offended ). CX only operates to PEK & XMN. All other Chinese cities are served by Dragonair (CX being one of the shareholders, but not the main one). As we all know, there are no scheduled flights between Taiwan & China (minus special charters).
KEno From Malaysia, joined Feb 2004, 1842 posts, RR: 29 Reply 5, posted (8 years 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 2555 times:
The restriction is still very much around. Taiwanese airlines can only fly to HKG & MFM, and no Mainland Chinese airline operate scheduled flight to Taiwan (nonstop or otherwise). Recently there were a few special charter flights between the two countries, but that was only for Chinese New Year period.