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User currently offlineSNBru From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 168 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5107 times:

Hi all,

I am planning to make a long trip from Europe to Australia. Because I like to travel and I love airplanes I am thinking of extending a ticket to Australia to a around the world ticket. I think the best choice would be a Star Alliance Ticket.
I was thinking of BRU - FRA - DXB - BKK - SIN - SYD MEL - AKL - LAX SFO -FRA - BRU

Has anyone experience with this kind of traveling? Is it very flexible? What are the Star Alliance restrictions? I found on their website the world trip planner but I couldn't find anything about the price just that you need to stay under 26000 miles for a certain category of price. The program told me I could only book this kind of ticket through Air New Zealand or BMI. Why not Lufthansa?
I have about 14000 miles right now at Lufthansa's FFprogram. Is it true that I can only book a free flight or upgrade at a LH flight and not through other Star Alliance partners? I guess I ll earn a lot of miles during a ATW trip and could use it at for example for an upgrade on my last flight leg?

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

SNBru

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User currently offlineFutureFO From Ireland, joined Oct 2001, 3132 posts, RR: 21
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5075 times:

If you go onto the Star website it has information on the RTW ticketing. Before it used to be all Star Carriers.


Sean from MCO and MKE



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User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5062 times:

Quoting SNBru (reply 0):
I have about 14000 miles right now at Lufthansa's FFprogram. Is it true that I can only book a free flight or upgrade at a LH flight and not through other Star Alliance partners? I guess I ll earn a lot of miles during a ATW trip and could use it at for example for an upgrade on my last flight leg?


you can book RTW through every Star carrier or travel agent.

LH Miles can be used for free flights on every star carrier.

upgrades can only be booked on LH, OS, LOT, UA and US.

anyway, no offence, 14.000 miles is a little bit of nothing  Smile for an upgrade of SFO-FRA, you'd need 50.000 miles.

have a great trip!

ben


User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5047 times:

Quoting SNBru (reply 0):
Has anyone experience with this kind of traveling? Is it very flexible? What are the Star Alliance restrictions? I found on their website the world trip planner but I couldn't find anything about the price just that you need to stay under 26000 miles for a certain category of price.


sorry, forgot about that:

except the first intercontinental sector, all flights can be changed for a fee afterwards.

pricing depends on where you book it. eco tickets start at roughly 2000 euros.


User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined exactly 10 years ago today! , 20751 posts, RR: 62
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 5024 times:

The most complete Star Alliance RTW info I've found available from the airlines (vs. a travel agent) on the net is at Singapore Air's website. This link should take you to the Dutch promotions page (I didn't see one for Belgium):

http://www.singaporeair.com/saa/app/...rea=NLRoundTheWorld¤tSite=nl

They list prices, general terms and conditions, etc. Quite useful. You can also change your country preferences to see what's on offer for neighboring countries, to compare deals.

Cheers.



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User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 4989 times:

The mileage on this itinerary is 25824 which would make the fare 7649EUR for First class, 5049EUR for business class, and 2399EUR for economy class. (These are the published fares by Star Alliance carriers) Minimum stay on this fare is 10days after first intercontinental sector and maximum stay is 1 year. You are allowed minimum of 3 stopovers and maximum of 15 and no more than 28 sectors are allowed on the ticket, and only one stopover permitted per city. As far as changes, these are the restrictions originating from Europe - no changes permitted on outbound sectors including the first international flt. All other sectors changes permitted at no charge. Rerouting is permitted at a fee of 100.00USD. For rerouting the routing must still be withing the RTW guidelines. If you cancel before departure there is a 150.00USD cancellation fee. If you cancel after departure it is the difference between the fare paid and journey travelled already.

These are just some of the basic guidlines and hope this helps. I would get into more detail but I have to get back to work.


User currently offlineZrs70 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 3187 posts, RR: 9
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 4946 times:

TO get the best info on RTW bookings, go to flyertalk.com and check out the Star Alliance threads under "miles and points." You will find loads of info!


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User currently offlineJoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2211 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 4817 times:

I recommend the RTW tool on Star's homepage. You can download it and plan your trip. It makes sure that your itany is coreect when present it your travel agent.
I alos recommend to download the e-timetable on Star's homepage. It helps to pre-plan your trip before you fix it with the RTW tool.


User currently offlineSNBru From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 168 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4681 times:

Thanks for all the answers.

Just one more question. What does a stop mean. How do I count it. I suppose the city at the end of your journey doesn't count as a stop?
I guess I can make the same trip just by booking a return ticket to Sydney with a stop somewhere in Asia for far less money than 2400 euro. I even can book an extra flight between Australia and New Zealand and still pay less in total. I only miss the stop at LAX of course but save a lot of money.


User currently offlineRootsAir From Costa Rica, joined Feb 2005, 4186 posts, RR: 40
Reply 9, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4687 times:

Quoting SNBru (reply 0):
BRU - FRA - DXB - BKK - SIN - SYD MEL - AKL - LAX SFO -FRA - BRU


thatsounds like a rather boring trip across hubs . I have a friend who went GVA-FRA-GIG-CCS-SJO-IAD-ORD-LAX-SIN-BKK-FRA


now that sounds a bit more attractive



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User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1559 posts, RR: 12
Reply 10, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4664 times:

SNBru, why don't you check http://www.connections.be to see their rtw offers ? I'm just in MEL right now, going back to Belgium on tuesday via SIN and BKK, feel free to email me if you want more details about my trip I will me more than happy to share this with you when I'm at home  Smile/happy/getting dizzy
Be well.

Jef



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User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4662 times:

Quoting Airtrainer (reply 10):
feel free to email me if you want more details about my trip I will me more than happy to share this with you when I'm at home


my friend, there's a trip report to be posted anyway  Smile


User currently offlineAirtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 1559 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 1 week ago) and read 4658 times:

Seems that you are following me on the forum but I'm going to bed now, it's 1:20 am and I have to get up at 7... I took some notes and will try to write a report as you said  Wink/being sarcastic

Be well.



Life is short : eat dessert first !
User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 34
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 4615 times:

There is a UA/EK round the world from Bangkok for roughly 2600 USD in business class and BKK/CAI/CMB offer great deals usually in premium cabins.


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User currently offlineAirafriqueDKR From United States of America, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 4547 times:

Quoting SNBru (reply 8):
Just one more question. What does a stop mean. How do I count it. I suppose the city at the end of your journey doesn't count as a stop?


A stopover means a break in the journey for 24 hours or more. So you must stay in a city for more than 24 hours to count as a stop. The city that you return to does not count as a stop.


User currently offlinePaulc From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4449 times:

I did EDI-FRA-MUC-FCO-SIN-BKK-HKG-KIX-HAN-CTS-NRT-Vancouver-Calgary-Toronto-MAN-EDI on a Star Alliance RTW ticket last year - good value with each flight costing under £90.


English First, British Second, european Never!
User currently offlineGuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 840 posts, RR: 6
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 4436 times:

SNBru... rather than groping in the dark.. why don't you just go to a travel agency and book your travel from there? It will save you lots of problems..

User currently offlineKoenie From Belgium, joined Oct 2004, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 4379 times:

If you're in belgium then go to a joker (www.joker.be) office.. they are experts in these kind of things....

User currently offlineRichardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 3755 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 4364 times:

There was another ticket called the Escapade, that was Virgin, Singapore Airlines and Air New Zealand, not sure if it is still available, but was very competitively priced.

User currently offlineFlying Belgian From Belgium, joined Jun 2001, 2396 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4305 times:
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The RTW section of Connections.be is quite attracting I must say !! Big grin

Nothing equals this when you need a break !!  Big grin

FB.



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User currently offlineCarbHeatIn From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4241 times:

If you go for a rwstar1 (max 29 000 miles) you'll be booked in B class on most carriers. This is quite a high Economy booking code, and on UA for example, would guarantee you Economy Plus seating. It would also allow you to upgrade on the SFO-FRA to Business for 15 000 miles; which you would easily have in your account by the time you reach SFO.

User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4233 times:

Quoting CarbHeatIn (reply 20):
It would also allow you to upgrade on the SFO-FRA to Business for 15 000 miles; which you would easily have in your account by the time you reach SFO.


35.000 that is  Smile


User currently offlineCarbHeatIn From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4220 times:

If he's using UA miles it is 15 000 from B or Y Trans-Atlantic or Trans-Pacific. 30 000 from M or H.

User currently offlineDaumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 693 posts, RR: 6
Reply 23, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4177 times:

sorry, didn't know that...

seems like UA is the airline of choice when flying in Economy (less miles needed) but LH is when flying business or First (earning double/triple miles).

cheers,

ben


User currently offlineCarbHeatIn From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 212 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 8 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 4158 times:

You get the bonus miles for Premium Cabins on UA too. Also bonus miles if you have status.

25 Daumueller : i didn't mean the airline you are flying but the airline who'se program you're a member of. first class on UA only earns 150% with MP but 300% with M&
26 SNBru : Thanks for all the tips. So if I am right it means that I won't get the UA upgrade with my Miles and Mores membership for just 15000 miles! Is it corr
27 Post contains links Ktliem@yvr : There are several commercial Websites dedicated to RTW flights on the Internet. Why not try the TRIPLANNER @ http://www.bootsnall.com/tripplanner.shtm
28 Daumueller : right
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