SNBru From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1692 times:
Hi all,
I am planning to make a long trip from Europe to Australia. Because I like to travel and I love airplanes I am thinking of extending a ticket to Australia to a around the world ticket. I think the best choice would be a Star Alliance Ticket.
I was thinking of BRU - FRA - DXB - BKK - SIN - SYD MEL - AKL - LAX SFO -FRA - BRU
Has anyone experience with this kind of traveling? Is it very flexible? What are the Star Alliance restrictions? I found on their website the world trip planner but I couldn't find anything about the price just that you need to stay under 26000 miles for a certain category of price. The program told me I could only book this kind of ticket through Air New Zealand or BMI. Why not Lufthansa?
I have about 14000 miles right now at Lufthansa's FFprogram. Is it true that I can only book a free flight or upgrade at a LH flight and not through other Star Alliance partners? I guess I ll earn a lot of miles during a ATW trip and could use it at for example for an upgrade on my last flight leg?
Daumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 658 posts, RR: 10 Reply 2, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1647 times:
Quoting SNBru (reply 0): I have about 14000 miles right now at Lufthansa's FFprogram. Is it true that I can only book a free flight or upgrade at a LH flight and not through other Star Alliance partners? I guess I ll earn a lot of miles during a ATW trip and could use it at for example for an upgrade on my last flight leg?
you can book RTW through every Star carrier or travel agent.
LH Miles can be used for free flights on every star carrier.
upgrades can only be booked on LH, OS, LOT, UA and US.
anyway, no offence, 14.000 miles is a little bit of nothing for an upgrade of SFO-FRA, you'd need 50.000 miles.
Daumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 658 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1632 times:
Quoting SNBru (reply 0): Has anyone experience with this kind of traveling? Is it very flexible? What are the Star Alliance restrictions? I found on their website the world trip planner but I couldn't find anything about the price just that you need to stay under 26000 miles for a certain category of price.
sorry, forgot about that:
except the first intercontinental sector, all flights can be changed for a fee afterwards.
pricing depends on where you book it. eco tickets start at roughly 2000 euros.
AeroWesty From United States, joined Oct 2004, 15527 posts, RR: 62 Reply 4, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1609 times:
The most complete Star Alliance RTW info I've found available from the airlines (vs. a travel agent) on the net is at Singapore Air's website. This link should take you to the Dutch promotions page (I didn't see one for Belgium):
They list prices, general terms and conditions, etc. Quite useful. You can also change your country preferences to see what's on offer for neighboring countries, to compare deals.
AirafriqueDKR From Colombia, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1574 times:
The mileage on this itinerary is 25824 which would make the fare 7649EUR for First class, 5049EUR for business class, and 2399EUR for economy class. (These are the published fares by Star Alliance carriers) Minimum stay on this fare is 10days after first intercontinental sector and maximum stay is 1 year. You are allowed minimum of 3 stopovers and maximum of 15 and no more than 28 sectors are allowed on the ticket, and only one stopover permitted per city. As far as changes, these are the restrictions originating from Europe - no changes permitted on outbound sectors including the first international flt. All other sectors changes permitted at no charge. Rerouting is permitted at a fee of 100.00USD. For rerouting the routing must still be withing the RTW guidelines. If you cancel before departure there is a 150.00USD cancellation fee. If you cancel after departure it is the difference between the fare paid and journey travelled already.
These are just some of the basic guidlines and hope this helps. I would get into more detail but I have to get back to work.
Zrs70 From United States, joined Dec 2000, 2199 posts, RR: 8 Reply 6, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1531 times:
TO get the best info on RTW bookings, go to flyertalk.com and check out the Star Alliance threads under "miles and points." You will find loads of info!
JoFMO From Germany, joined Jul 2004, 2129 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1402 times:
I recommend the RTW tool on Star's homepage. You can download it and plan your trip. It makes sure that your itany is coreect when present it your travel agent.
I alos recommend to download the e-timetable on Star's homepage. It helps to pre-plan your trip before you fix it with the RTW tool.
SNBru From Belgium, joined Feb 2005, 155 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1266 times:
Thanks for all the answers.
Just one more question. What does a stop mean. How do I count it. I suppose the city at the end of your journey doesn't count as a stop?
I guess I can make the same trip just by booking a return ticket to Sydney with a stop somewhere in Asia for far less money than 2400 euro. I even can book an extra flight between Australia and New Zealand and still pay less in total. I only miss the stop at LAX of course but save a lot of money.
Airtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 687 posts, RR: 9 Reply 10, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1249 times:
SNBru, why don't you check http://www.connections.be to see their rtw offers ? I'm just in MEL right now, going back to Belgium on tuesday via SIN and BKK, feel free to email me if you want more details about my trip I will me more than happy to share this with you when I'm at home
Be well.
Daumueller From Germany, joined Nov 2003, 658 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1247 times:
Quoting Airtrainer (reply 10): feel free to email me if you want more details about my trip I will me more than happy to share this with you when I'm at home
my friend, there's a trip report to be posted anyway
Airtrainer From Belgium, joined Aug 2003, 687 posts, RR: 9 Reply 12, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
Seems that you are following me on the forum but I'm going to bed now, it's 1:20 am and I have to get up at 7... I took some notes and will try to write a report as you said
AirafriqueDKR From Colombia, joined May 2001, 392 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 1132 times:
Quoting SNBru (reply 8): Just one more question. What does a stop mean. How do I count it. I suppose the city at the end of your journey doesn't count as a stop?
A stopover means a break in the journey for 24 hours or more. So you must stay in a city for more than 24 hours to count as a stop. The city that you return to does not count as a stop.
Paulc From United Kingdom (England), joined Mar 2001, 1490 posts, RR: 3 Reply 15, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1034 times:
I did EDI-FRA-MUC-FCO-SIN-BKK-HKG-KIX-HAN-CTS-NRT-Vancouver-Calgary-Toronto-MAN-EDI on a Star Alliance RTW ticket last year - good value with each flight costing under £90.
GuyBetsy1 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 809 posts, RR: 4 Reply 16, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 1021 times:
SNBru... rather than groping in the dark.. why don't you just go to a travel agency and book your travel from there? It will save you lots of problems..
Richardw From United Kingdom, joined May 2001, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 23 hours ago) and read 949 times:
There was another ticket called the Escapade, that was Virgin, Singapore Airlines and Air New Zealand, not sure if it is still available, but was very competitively priced.
CarbHeatIn From Ireland, joined Jun 2004, 188 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (3 years 9 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 826 times:
If you go for a rwstar1 (max 29 000 miles) you'll be booked in B class on most carriers. This is quite a high Economy booking code, and on UA for example, would guarantee you Economy Plus seating. It would also allow you to upgrade on the SFO-FRA to Business for 15 000 miles; which you would easily have in your account by the time you reach SFO.
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for an upgrade of SFO-FRA, you'd need 50.000 miles.
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