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Aviation Traders ATL-98 Carvair  
User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2085 times:


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What is the story behind these wierd birds and what were they used for?

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User currently offlineCs03 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 413 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2020 times:
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If memory serves: This A/C was used in service between France and the UK in the 1950s to transport cars and people across the English Channel. An early "combi"! The film "Goldfinger" featured the ATL-98 with actual footage pre-departure.

User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 8 months 20 hours ago) and read 2015 times:

Ok thanks. From pics I thought it might have had something to do with cars. It just looks so wierd!! lol.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 2000 times:

There used to be one based @ 4A7 (Clayton County-Tara Field) up until a few years ago, operated by Academy Airlines, and later Custom Air Service. Same a/c N89FA was based at 6A2 (Griffin-Spaulding County Airport) before Academy moved it up the road to 4A7. They crashed one (N83FA) @ 6A2 4/4/97.The last photo of N89FA in the database is dated 12/29/2003, operating for Gator Global Flying Services, and is still listed on the FAA books.

I saw N89FA in 1999 @ ATL, and the a/c really caught my eye. I had no idea what it was. To me, it looked like the bastard child of a 747 and a DC-7.


User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (9 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 1998 times:

Quoting Srbmod (reply 3):
I saw N89FA in 1999 @ ATL, and the a/c really caught my eye. I had no idea what it was. To me, it looked like the bastard child of a 747 and a DC-7.

Haha ya. It's kind of scary! :p


User currently offlineFlyinround731 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 241 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 1980 times:

That's one funny looking plane I must admit. When I was younger, and I saw a picture of one for the first time, I must have laughed for minutes! :-P
-Joe


User currently offlineDoug_or From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 3421 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (9 years 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 1977 times:

IIRC its actaul mommy was a dc-4.


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User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 8 months 4 hours ago) and read 1895 times:

It looks like a big evil bird going to attack someone or something!

User currently offlineFaenum From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 8 months ago) and read 1853 times:

The Aircraft Data and History Section has an entry for the ATL-98 "Carvair" and I can tell you a bit more from personal sources. The ATL-98 was seen as a replacement for the long-nosed Bristol 170 Mk32s operated by Channel Air Bridge and car-ferry pioneer Silver City Airways. During 1962, Channel Air Bridge and Silver City merged to become British United Air Ferries (BUAF) effective 01 Jan 1963. In March 1962 I joined Silver City as a Traffic Officer at Lydd Ferryfield (EGMD / LYX) and worked there for BUAF until January 1966, when I transferred to the parent company, British United Airways (BUA), at London-Gatwick.

I have a hard-copy of the 1965 Jan/Feb edition of Esso World by Douglas Whybrow, Commercial Director of British United Air Ferries, confirming the ATL-98 first flew in 1961 and entered service on 16 February 1962. Whybrow (who I knew) states the converted DC-4 was conceived in 1958 by (Sir) Freddie Laker and manufactured by a team under J.R.Batt, director of Aviation Traders (Engineering) Ltd.; the Chief Designer was A. Leftley.

BUAF operated ATL-98s from Lydd to Basel, Geneva, Strasbourg and Liege. B170s continued to be used on the short routes to Le Touquet, Calais, Ostend and, in the summer, Deauville. The ATL-98s carried up to 5 cars and about 22 passengers. The B170's took 3 cars and 14 passengers. I can just about remember how to arrange cars of differing lengths and weights to get a balanced aircraft. At peak periods Lydd had around 120 movements a day.

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It was in my first upload to the database and was kindly approved by Johan in spite of its low quality compared to today's digital images.


User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 1816 times:

There is one still flying based at FAI. If I'm not mistaken, she is used for transporting pipes to bush villages. I was lucky enough to see her following the Chena River on her approach to FAI this summer.


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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29802 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1800 times:

I didn't know that FlyingNanook.

I knew that one got crashed up at Venitie a number of years back.



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User currently offlineTexdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1360 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 1799 times:

When I was ten or eleven, my dad brought me an encyclopedia of aircraft.

For some reason, this aircraft stood out in my memory...probably because as stated above, it looks like a 747 with propeller engines!!



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User currently offlineFlyingNanook From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 830 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 1773 times:

L-188: Brooks bought this one in 2003 and she needed a lot of work to be airworthy again. Trust me, it is a very interesting sight to see one of those flying. My roommate and I were driving down University Ave (if you're familiar with the FAI area) and we heard this ungodly loud prop plane. I looked out the window and there was this slow, loud, and somewhat low airplane. I couldn't believe my eyes because the last time I saw her, she was still being repaired and looked like she never would fly. I was amazed and wish I had my camera with me.

I haven't seen or heard her flying after that and last time I was at the airport, she was covered in snow, but I think she may be up to flying some more next summer.

Here's a bit of information on her
http://www.flyinghigher.net/douglas/N898AT.php



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