PHL27RPhotog From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 77 posts, RR: 5 Posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 3102 times:
This morning at PHL I shot N372BG, brand new GV based at PHL. This will replace a G-IV with the reg. But the G-IV was also present today and was listed on FBOWEB as N372BG as well.I didn't see the G-IV, as it departed before I got there.How common is it that 2 aircraft would have the same reg. at the same time?
FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 3, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2939 times:
Not only is it uncommon...it is illegal. The FAA civil aircraft registry in Oklahoma City will not issue the same N number to more than one aircraft. Whether there are two aircraft with the same number painted on is another story, but only one can be validly registered under that number. I don't think the FAA would be too pleased to hear that an aircraft is flying around with an outdated registration--it's like driving around with an invalid license plate on your car. There may be an exception in cases where the aircraft is just being ferried to a painting facility to have the new registration applied, but even then I think a temporary sticker is usually applied.
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 31 Reply 4, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 2919 times:
The FAA's database says that registration is reserved, and this is what the details are:
Type Reservation N-Number Change
Mode S Code 51035531
Reserved Date 01/19/2005
Renewal Date None
Purge Date None
Pending Number Change 938GA
Date Change Authorized 01/19/2005
Reserving Party Name CONTRAIL AVIATION LLC
Street 5 HOG ISLAND RD
Zip Code 19153-3809
Country UNITED STATES
UA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 12 Reply 9, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2228 times:
I was talking to the pilot of N55F who was waiting for his passengers @ CCR this past week. Said he's always flown N55F but 3 different a/c..... I guess its the same. Wasn't there an incident with AF1 before it was called AF1 when an a/c with the same tail number got confused with instructions....
B4real From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2602 posts, RR: 6 Reply 10, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2228 times:
I know Boeing (not sure about others) issues the same reg #, and in this case and N number for the United States for a/c pre-delivery. These numbers are eventually replaced by the operator's reg #. Some examples:
Reg: N60659 (New 777-200LR, and a QF 747-400 from the early 1990s.)
Reg: N5014K (KLM 777-200, Aitalia 777-200, and 777-300 world tour a/c)
Reg: N6018N (KLM 777-200, China Southern 747-400F)
These regs are removed and then owner's reg is implemented. I think there is a pic in the database of an Independence Air A319 with the Airbus reg and FlyI reg on @ the same time.
L-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29519 posts, RR: 59 Reply 11, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 2179 times:
Quoting FoxBravo (reply 3): The FAA civil aircraft registry in Oklahoma City will not issue the same N number to more than one aircraft.
As B4real mentioned most aircraft manufacturers have a number of "Canned" registrations on file with the FAA that they can use for ferry and flight test purposes. The only caveat is that only one aircraft with that registration can be airborne at any given time.
And there is nothing in the old books that requires a registration to be removed from a de-registered aircraft. So you can find aircraft at a graveyard that are wearing numbers that now belong to somebody else.
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FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2903 posts, RR: 5 Reply 12, posted (8 years 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2006 times:
You'll note that I distinguished between the N number that is assigned to an aircraft and the N number that is painted on an aircraft. There are grounded aircraft in places like Mojave with N numbers still painted on even though those numbers are now being used by other aircraft. But as you said, only one aircraft with any registration can be airborne at any given time. So, getting back to the original question, if the G-V was already flying with that registration, the G-IV should not have departed with the same registration--and most likely it didn't, it's probably just the database that hadn't been updated yet.