Jfkaua From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1000 posts, RR: 3 Posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7345 times:
Hey I was just looking around, and I was wondering how you can possible call the a318 a widebody aircraft... I always considered a widebody to have two aisles..
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7289 times:
Quoting Jfkaua (reply 0): Hey I was just looking around, and I was wondering how you can possible call the a318 a widebody aircraft... I always considered a widebody to have two aisles..
Who claimed that? The A318 is a single aisle which is synonomous with narrowbody, not a widebody. A32S aircraft are slightly wider than Boeing narrowbodies, but a few inches does not qualify something as a widebody
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N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 7231 times:
Quoting Jfkaua (reply 4): yea thats what I would normally think... but its in big letters on airbus's website...
That is purely marketing hyperbole. The A318 is a narrowbody.
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Birdwatching From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 3573 posts, RR: 52 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 7096 times:
Airbus can call their A318 a widebody because IMHO there is no scientific definition to that term. Try looking it up in an encyclopedia.
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N766UA From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 7996 posts, RR: 27 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6993 times:
It's just marketing... they're not saying it actually is a widebody. They're just saying it's big for a 100 seater.
MD11LuxuryLinr From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1385 posts, RR: 16 Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6980 times:
In terms of an ERJ or CRJ, it's a widebody..
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Delta-flyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 2676 posts, RR: 7 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 6885 times:
Why don't you guys read the context in which this statement is made? The description goes on to say it is the widest cabin in its class, the class being single aisle 3x3 seating. It's more a play on words than a marketing hype, because everyone in this market knows it is not a "widebody" in the sense of a twin-aisle.
The Challenger was also dubbed a "widebody" in the context of bizjets of the day.
RedFlyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 4181 posts, RR: 30 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 6832 times:
I recently read in a news article that Boeing has patented a design for a true widebody (e.g., twin aisle) for a 737 sized aircraft.
Not sure if that has been discussed on here previously or not (if it has, just ignore this and let the discussion string on this topic die) but I'd be curious to know how they patented it. I mean, is a really wide but really short fuselage patentable (assuming it is still efficient aerodynamically) or do they have something else up their sleeves?
Jc2354 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 537 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 6710 times:
I had always thought of a wide-body as twin aisle. But, after reading this thread, got me thinking exactly when does a cabin become a widebody? If a 747 has a 5x5 seating with one aisle down the middle, is it still a widebody? If an A320 has 1x1x1 seating with two aisles, is it a widebody?
I would have thought by now, there would have been a definition of "widebody" by Boeing, Airbus, Lockheed, Douglas, whoever. Just my thoughts.
Newark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 33 Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 6570 times:
Quoting Jc2354 (reply 15): I had always thought of a wide-body as twin aisle. But, after reading this thread, got me thinking exactly when does a cabin become a widebody? If a 747 has a 5x5 seating with one aisle down the middle, is it still a widebody? If an A320 has 1x1x1 seating with two aisles, is it a widebody?
And what does that make the 74F, if it has no aisles?
AA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5342 posts, RR: 11 Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 6468 times:
QFA001 From Australia, joined exactly 13 years ago today! , 673 posts, RR: 54 Reply 22, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 6169 times:
You think that. I think that. A lot of people think that. However, some people don't think that. Airbus, for example, said that a "true widebody" could hold the same cargo containers side-by-side as a B747. Because the A300 could do this and the B767 couldn't, the latter airplane was sometimes referred to as a "semi-widebody" despite having two aisles.
The term "widebody" really is just marketing glib. Inversely, that's why you have the manufacturers preferring to refer to their "narrowbody" types as "single-aisle" rather than give the impression of cramped conditions.
Quoting RedFlyer (reply 14): I recently read in a news article that Boeing has patented a design for a true widebody (e.g., twin aisle) for a 737 sized aircraft.
Aloges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8358 posts, RR: 47 Reply 24, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 5651 times:
Quoting RootsAir (reply 21): This airbus add is what you call Wrong publicity.
Obviously.
It's nothing but a play on words, just get over it. Airbus probably assumed nobody would think a 3-3 100-seater is a widebody so they made a catchy slogan out of it. Seems to have worked brilliantly.
My definition of "widebody" is "pax aircraft that needs two aisles for proper boarding and evacuation or a cargo version of that or a similar-sized cargo aircraft". Semi-widebody or whatever the Airbus PR department called the 767, to me it is a widebody. As is the C-17.
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25 AirIndia: May be they are refering to the FAs....
26 Flyibaby: although it is a narrowbody...airbus made the entire A3.. series wide enough you can order the option to equip the cargo bins with canisters.
27 Sebolino: No, you're talking about lying advertisment. Saying it's a widebody is not a lie, it's a marketing effect. And it's not an advertisment anyway, that'
28 BrightCedars: Are you sure you're not mixing up with its nickname: the wide-baby?
29 ODwyerPW: This has been discussed before. It's the fact that it is just over 12' wide that gives Airbus 'creative license' to market it as a wide body. Misleadi
30 Aer Lingus: Ooh yes airbus doesn't know which of their aircrafts are widebody or a narrow body! This is a sentence from http://www.airbus.com/product/a318_introdu
31 ZRH: Hey folks, a little bit of humor. This is only an Airbus advertisement. They did not mean a real widebody, they only wanted to say that the 318 has pl
32 LeanOfPeak: Jc2354: 5-5 is not a legal seating configuration. No seat can be farther than two seats from the nearest aisle.
33 777DadandJr: Maybe the definition of wide body is kind of like tires. The ratio of length to width? Just a guess. Russ
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