Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10229 times:
Flight International 03/01/05:
"Taiwanese carrier questions the financial viability of the 772LR on ultra-long-haul services."
According to Lee Jen-Ling, Deputy Senior V.P. Corporate Planning, "...the airline is still evaluating whether ultra-long-haul services are financially viable....whether there would be sufficient demand for such services, or whether one-stop service would be better financially." The example cited by Ms. Jen-Ling is Taipei/New York.
According to the article EVA could switch it's order to the 773ER or 777F, and has until next year to make its decison, as deliveries of its firm order for three 772LRs don't commence until 2008.
Antares From Australia, joined Jun 2004, 1402 posts, RR: 39
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10099 times:
Well something is going on. SQ isn't moved by the 777-200LR yet clearly thrilled with the 777-300ER and Dixon was reported as querying the operating costs of the -200LR when he did a press interview after the last financial results in mid February.
PM From Germany, joined Feb 2005, 6962 posts, RR: 63
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10084 times:
Quoting Leelaw (reply 0): the airline is still evaluating whether ultra-long-haul services are financially viable....whether there would be sufficient demand for such services, or whether one-stop service would be better financially.
Am I naive in sort of assuming that they might have asked those questions BEFORE they placed the order?! Or have things changed?
60% of Boeing's 772LR backlog at risk! Wouldn't it be funny if nobody bought it?
This may be make or break time for the B772LR. There is a few airlines in the world that are currently deliberating the A345 or B772LR. So, 2005 may be the year that the B772LR proves fruitious or failure.
Anyway, I don't see why EVA would really need a 777LR, because almost all markets that are worth exploring (and within unrestricted non-stop, max payload range) can be better served with the 777-300ER.
N79969 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 9988 times:
If they go for the freighter, well then EVA would still be getting a 772LR. Since all 777s are built on the same assembly line, I think the impact on Boeing is negligible. The comparison to the MD-11 does not hold since that was a distinct type and not a variant.
PANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4211 posts, RR: 89
Reply 13, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 9666 times:
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Quoting PM (reply 3): 60% of Boeing's 772LR backlog at risk! Wouldn't it be funny if nobody bought it?
As stated in the original post, they could switch to 773ER or 772LRF. EVA already have 12 B773ER on firm order so any conversion would suit their current fleet planning. Somehow, I don't think we'll see no-one buying it.
ConcordeBoy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 9236 times:
K folks, couple of things:
First of all, this was easily predictable two years ago when they sent out the release that the twice (now quadruple) range/payload boost on the 773ER made flights to Paris and New York feasible for them with that aircraft.
Secondly, I called the switch to 772LRF the moment they moved their deliveries back to 2009.
Says practically nothing about the 772LR program in and of itself, particularly when this carrier placed orders five years ago.
TeamREGAL From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 114 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (9 years 9 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 9103 times:
Quoting NA (reply 18): I second Concordeboy here. By 2009 Eva Air might need smaller freighters to replace the MD11fs and to play the minor role besides 747-400Fs/SFs.
And what smaller freighter are you referring to? Since when was the 777 "smaller" than the MD-11? The last time I checked, the two planes are pretty much about the same size with the 777 being a bit bigger.
You would dare to challenge me? .........Insanity!