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User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3517 times:

I just recently moved into some apartments along San Francisco Bay. Every night when I come home from work around midnight, I have noticed some 747 arrivals. Looking on a flight tracker site right now, I saw that Korean Air, Asiana and Cathay Pacific have late-night flights between LAX-SFO, continuing on to Asia, all arriving at SFO between 11pm and 1am. Why would they route like this, instead of LAX nonstop to Asia? It doesn't seem to make sense that someone flying Asiana from LAX-Seoul would rather fly through SFO first, since they do offer nonstop flights to Asia.




Michael

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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20496 posts, RR: 62
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3433 times:

Cross-checking the flight numbers at flytecomm.com to the passenger flights listed at travelocity.com, reveals these are most likely cargo flights, especially since the CX flight in question also stops in Anchorage.


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User currently offlineSfo212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3408 times:

Those flights are all cargo flights coming up from LAX to SFO before heading out to either Anchorage or Asia.

User currently offlineMGA From Nicaragua, joined Mar 2005, 726 posts, RR: 3
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3400 times:

Why do so many cargo flight head to Anchorage??


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User currently offlineGigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16347 posts, RR: 85
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

Because they can't make it the whole way.

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User currently offlineSfo212 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3385 times:

I think it is because they don't have enough range to make it all the way to Asia fully loaded with cargo.

I know Nippon Cargo and Japan Airlines cargo still uses 747-200F for their flights. Cathay and Asiana use 747-400Fs.


User currently offlineAs739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6123 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 3360 times:

Mike77....all cargo flights. Asiana,Cathay Pacific,and Korean all fly cargo into SFO. If you are ever around SFO at between 200a-430a you'll see lots of freighters departing SFO, mostly via ANC to Asia. All the Asia passengers flights depart between midnight and 130a, with the exception of Korean. No Asian passenger flight operate between LAX and SFO unless its a irregular ops of some kind.

ASSFO



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User currently offlineIowa744Fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3337 times:

MGA,

The cargo flights could operate nonstop all the way to Asia from SFO, however, the payload that they would be able to carry would be quite a bit less than their maximum potential. The extra cost and time required for the fuel stop in Anchorage is almost always justified by the additional amount of revenue that the airline can make by operating the flight at max payload. As for why ANC, it (like Fairbanks) is conveniently located along the great circle route and has runways that are long enough to handle those birds.


User currently onlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3123 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3320 times:

Quoting Iowa744Fan (reply 7):
As for why ANC, it (like Fairbanks) is conveniently located along the great circle route and has runways that are long enough to handle those birds.


I remember being in FAI with really low clouds and watching a Lufthansa Cargo 747 drop out of the clouds, quite a sight in a place as small as Fairbanks

speaking of which anyone know which airlines use FAI and which ones use ANC?

TWA902



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User currently offlineJacobin777 From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 14968 posts, RR: 60
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

Mike77..where in SFO do you live? I live in the Marina district


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User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 3242 times:

I once flew SFO-LAX on CI it was diverted


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User currently offlineMike77 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 203 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 3145 times:

Thanks for the feedback everyone! Those being cargo flights makes much more sense. At night I can only see the tail logos lit up, so I wasn't aware they were cargo flights.



Jacobin777: I live on the Peninsula in Foster City, right by the San Mateo Bridge. I just moved here from Redwood City and began to notice all of this late night flight activity into SFO since the planes come in right over FC and the bridge.


User currently offlineAirlinerfreak From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3044 times:

Could you pay for a ticket from LAX-SFO on one of those asian airlines?

User currently offlineZK-NBT From New Zealand, joined Oct 2000, 5311 posts, RR: 11
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2902 times:

Quoting Airlinerfreak (reply 12):
Could you pay for a ticket from LAX-SFO on one of those asian airlines?


Read the thread, they are talking about Cargo flights here. Try bookings a ticket if you like, good luck!


User currently offlineUnited Airline From Hong Kong, joined Jan 2001, 9168 posts, RR: 15
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 2862 times:

CX should just fly to more US destinations.

User currently offlineAS739X From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6123 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2808 times:

Well United Airline, they just added more US, but not destinations, just more competition to UA amongst others. They just announced a second daily SFO flight and third LAX. So we will see more CX in the USA, but no new citys.

*Though if I read correctly some citys in the US may get some CX cargo flights.

ASSFO



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User currently offlineJakob77 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 2794 times:

ALT/DFW cargo this summer

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