An-225 From United States, joined Sep 2000, 3948 posts, RR: 53 Posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 5091 times:
Since the rollout of Premium Service (P.S.), United has been retiring those old 767-200s rather fast. We only got two in the fleet, N603UA and N617UA, and they're mostly flown between LAX, IAD and SEA, although one of them is doing SFO-BOS-SFO and LAX-BOS-LAX this week. N620UA was retired less than a week ago. I believe the remaining two will be retired at the end of the month. So if you have an opportunity to get on one before they're gone, or at least maybe take a photo, please do.
FriendlySkies From United States, joined Aug 2004, 3584 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 4976 times:
All I can say is...good riddens!
The 762s were nice back in the day, but now they look like crap, and the new p.s. service puts them to shame. Thanks for the years of service, but it's time to say goodbye. UA launched the 762 IIRC, so maybe one will end up at the Museum of Flight with the other originals (and hopefully restored in the original livery!).
[Edited 2005-03-03 02:21:17]
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Carpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2301 posts, RR: 3 Reply 2, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4710 times:
Or may they be converted to cargo config and have a good second-life.
All of NH's 762s have gone the way of cargo but why haven't AA nor UA 767s found cargo takers. Granted NH 767 are little younger than AA or UA 762s but have many more cycles. Is it the hours on the AA or UA 762? Or some other reason.
StevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 4625 times:
Sad. The 767 in general is a great plane, especially for UA. I remember fondly the first and only time I flew on a 762, in November 1982, ORD-SFO, as we were moving my grandfather from Chicago to be closer to us. A few months earlier, in August '82, my Dad and Grandfather (both UA employees in SFO at the time) got to attend the rollout ceremony at SFO for the 762.
The plane was brand new, quiet, and seemed so modern. I loved it. I don't know what the reg. number was, but it's probably already been retired, based on odds.
American 767 From United States, joined May 1999, 2449 posts, RR: 17 Reply 6, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 4104 times:
Well, United may retire them soon, but American will likely keep them for a few more years, I would say till the end of the decade. So if you want to fly on one, or even take a picture like you say, you can still do so with American on the daily JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO transcon flights.
I think it would be a nice idea to put a United 767-200 in the Museum of Flight in Seattle or the Smithsonian aviation museum in Washington DC, because United was the first airline that flew the 767 back in 1982 and the 767 was the first widebody twin built by a US aircraft manufacturer. The 767 was Boeing's answer to the Airbus A300. An other idea would be to display one at an airpark near a major airport (ORD, SFO, IAD, or whathever) where people can step on it to visit, like Malev did in Budapest with the Tupolev aircraft. American should definitely do that in DFW or ORD with one of their 767-200's.
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N1120A From United States, joined Dec 2003, 23399 posts, RR: 87 Reply 8, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 3944 times:
Quoting FriendlySkies (reply 1): The 762s were nice back in the day, but now they look like crap, and the new p.s. service puts them to shame.
It is not the plane's fault they look bad. UA just did not want to keep them flying. If they had chosen so, P.S. could have gone into the 762s and you would never known the plane was 23 years old.
Quoting American 767 (reply 6): Well, United may retire them soon, but American will likely keep them for a few more years, I would say till the end of the decade. So if you want to fly on one, or even take a picture like you say, you can still do so with American on the daily JFK-LAX and JFK-SFO transcon flights.
AA's are newer -200ER models, that offer them more flexibility and have more plentiful spares.
Quoting American 767 (reply 6): The 767 was Boeing's answer to the Airbus A300.
They really are very different planes for very different missions. The 767 has much longer range, while the A300 can carry more cargo. Also, the 767 was part of a 2 airplane (with the 757) pointed at replacing 2 Boeing types (727 and 707) and able to be flown in a common fleet.
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Leelaw From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3869 times:
I flew on UA 762s on some more unusual routings that soon fell by the wayside: LGA/ORD in 10/82, soon after EIS; ORD/BUR (kinda like a whale in a bathtub) several times in the mid-eighties, before 733s were substituted and the route was ultimately dropped by UA.
MD80Nut From United States, joined Jul 2003, 827 posts, RR: 12 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3807 times:
Sad to see them go. My first flight on 767 was on a United -200 back in 1983. It was such a smooth flight I fell in love with 767 right then and there and it's remained one of my favorites types to fly.
AKelley728 From United States, joined Dec 1999, 1768 posts, RR: 12 Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3726 times:
Quoting Planecrazy2 (reply 7): A sad day when all are gone, it is my favourite looking model of the 767, and the UA colours suit it well. At least American will keep theirs.
Continental has ten almost new 762s (ERs) that will be around for a very long time, at least for the next 10 years or so.
FoxBravo From United States, joined Nov 2003, 2582 posts, RR: 7 Reply 12, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 3668 times:
I remember flying UA 762s between LGA and DEN back in the mid 80s. It has been very interesting to see the type's niche evolve, along with that of the 757 and 737. Back when the 767 was first designed, no one would have guessed that 737s would be flying transcons and even to Hawaii! As a result of this shift, the 762's niche has continued to shrink to the extent that there are only a few routes (i.e., long, thin ones, like those operated by CO with the 762) where another type couldn't be substituted easily--and probably do a better job. And that's only with the -ER version. Even that role will soon be usurped with the arrival of the 787, which will fly the same number of pax farther and more efficiently.
N1120A From United States, joined Dec 2003, 23399 posts, RR: 87 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3522 times:
Quoting RootsAir (reply 13): Could you tell me what UA is replacing them with ?
Nothing really, it is part of their overall domestic capacity decrease. On the routes in which they have been operating (LAX/SFO-JFK) UA has brought on 757s with their new P.S. 3 class cabin.
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AADC10 From United States, joined Nov 2004, 949 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 3409 times:
I flew on one of the 767-200s a few weeks ago from IAD-LAX on a late night Monday flight. The F-class seats were a little beat up but similar in features to the 767-300 seats. The C-class seats are not as good, but coach was about the same. The plane was definitely heading off into the sunset as the interior looked very worn.
The engine whine on a -200 is different than a -300, louder perhaps, or maybe it was just the airframe vibrating. It had a bit of a gear grinding sound that I hear on some planes, which I presume is related to the type of engine.
The 767-200s are the oldest planes left in the fleet and are all UAL owned, so they will probably fly them until the next major maintenance check. I wonder what happens to the mortgage on the planes if they do not find a buyer. The off duty FAs commented that the plane was like an old friend they had not seen in a while. I prefer the 767 in coach because it has fewer middle seats than any other plane. Of the seven seats across, six are either window or aisle. They also have 18" seat width, versus 17" on Boeing narrowbodies and 747s.
I miss the international 777s and 747s UA used to fly between IAD and LAX, particularly in F-class.
NA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 6753 posts, RR: 8 Reply 16, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 2601 times:
UA sold 16 of their 762s to Transatlantic Aviation from the UK. What is this company? What will they do with them? Scrapping en masse? 23 years of continuous service doesn´t exactly sound like a F-conversion makes much sense.
RampRat74 From United States, joined Dec 2003, 1214 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1926 times:
UA flew the 767-200 to many cities you wouldn't think a widebody should be in. Like the poster mentioned up top. They flew them into BUR. UA also operated twice daily ORD-LGB with this aircraft back in the 80's. DFW was opened up with 767-200 aircraft back in 82/83. I will miss this plane. It was a whole lot easier to load 200 bags on a 767-200 then on a 757.
777uafan From United States, joined Mar 2005, 5 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1809 times:
Last Friday I was on the last flight of 620UA. KORD-KSFO flight 863. As we took off the purser came on an said "A little note of trivia this is this plane's last flight before being retired." I was up in business class and the seats seemed a bit dated. It was a bit odd thinking that this plane would not be flying passengers (at least for UA) again. On the way out I did grab one of the safety cards!
Robsol From United States, joined Jan 2005, 3 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1657 times:
I will surely miss the 67-200 3 class configuration it was my first working flight out of FA training, back when UA had nearly hourly service on JFK - SFO/LAX routes. It seemed so big to me then. During my years at United it was always my favorite aircraft to work. It seemed to have the perfect capacity, nice sized business class and not to many coach seats (I hated working coach ) I will miss her, hopefully they will be able to give some good years to another carrier.
Smeagol From Canada, joined Dec 2004, 62 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 4 days ago) and read 988 times:
Never got a chance to fly with UA's 762. But one interesting memory is in 2003 I flew their 763ER from Los Angels to Hawaii. It is such a pretty bird! My friend told me 'it is the best plane I ever take!' Why? Because one week before we took a small bird (as I remember it was Delta's CRJ-200) from Raleigh to Dallas
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An-225 From United States, joined Sep 2000, 3948 posts, RR: 53 Reply 23, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 816 times:
They were definitely very nice planes to fly on. My flight 9 from JFK to SFO was 6 hours, I was in 1A of N617UA. 6 hours flew by like 6 minutes, great service, comfortable seats, and a good feeling that you're flying in a plane that's pretty much as old as you.
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FriendlySkies From United States, joined Aug 2004, 3584 posts, RR: 7 Reply 25, posted (4 years 8 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 757 times:
Quoting AlitaliaMD11 (reply 24): Just a little off topic but how many 757s do UA have in the Premium Service state?
There will be a total of 13 (12 active and one spare), all of which have been converted to my knowledge.
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26 AirlineBrat: I'll miss the UA 767-200's. I remember when they had tours of the brand new 767 at the maintenance base in SFO before UA put them into service. I have
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