BHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1103 posts, RR: 5 Posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 10004 times:
My fiancee just flew back to DTW via IAD from LHR and she told me that UA are now charging for alcohol on there long haul flights.. Is this the norm now with Long Haul flights with American carriers ? or is it specific to UA as a cost cutting measure ?
PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7627 posts, RR: 21
Reply 10, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9622 times:
I believe that on all domestic coach flights, regardless of carrier, alcohol is a charge item; usually $4 for beer and wine, $5 for hard liquor. The longest flights I've been on: PHL-DEN (F9), PHL-SLC (DL), & PDX-CVG (DL); a similar charging for alcohol policy was in effect.
"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17493 posts, RR: 66
Reply 12, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9566 times:
Just order a glass of coke with ice and have a hip flask of JD plus a window seat. No problem.
Just be aware that this breaks federal regulations about alcohol service. All alcoholic beverages must be served by a flight attendant. You can of course give the F/A your hip flask and ask him/her to serve you, which would not break the rule.
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
BHXDTW From Eritrea, joined Feb 2005, 1103 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 9493 times:
Quoting Alitalia744 (reply 11): they charge you for everything. hell i'm not surprised you don't have to pay to use the bathroom yet.
Alitalia744... this I know, my closest airport is transatlantic route starved BHX... therefore if I want to fly locally direct I have a choice of either CO, or CO.. haha, not much of a selection.. though I think Uzbekistan fly a JFK route but Im not sure if you can book BHX-JFK seats...
Wdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 963 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9317 times:
not only do we have the weekly NWA DC9 threads, A380 threads and 787 threads, we have gotten confirmation on the *US CARRIERs charging for alchohol on long haul* threads will increasing its schedule and frequency of apperance on A.net to atleast once a week.
Iowa744Fan From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 931 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9289 times:
they charge you for everything. hell i'm not surprised you don't have to pay to use the bathroom yet.
LOL! I can just picture one of those toilets they have in various cities where you have to drop a quarter or 50 cents to use it! Of course, there are two possible downsides to the airline. First, they will need to deal with the fact that passengers might find other means than using the restroom. Plus, they would need to hire someone back there to prevent passengers from holding the door for others and making each one pay! Very amusing comment Alitalia.
ClipperNo1 From Germany, joined May 1999, 672 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9236 times:
Quoting Flybmi330 (reply 1): As yet, BA, VS and BD still offer complimentary alcoholic beverages.
On my last BA transatlantic flight (NOV04), during the first drink service, they asked what kind of whine I wanted with dinner...mind you I was flying cheapo WT. after dinner and whine I enjoyed a fabulous Barcadi Coke. Boy I hope they don't get a wrong idea from the US carriers....but I fear they will.
"I really don't know one plane from the other. To me they are just marginal costs with wings."Ã¯Â¿Â½ Alfred Kahn, 1977
AMSSpotter From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 271 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9139 times:
Quoting Stargoldlhr (reply 14): Europeans will just no - go on US airlines once the word spreads, and europeans are not as easy to win over once they have a bad opinion
Although European, I'll keep flying UA whether they charge for alcohol or not. I Like their service, they always have great fares, a great FF program, good safety record and nice IFE. Alcohol is not my main decision-maker although I WILL miss the wine during dinner and the liquor afterwards
Aa777jr From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 23, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9102 times:
I'm glad to see that NW continues to remain consistent and doen't charge for alcohol across the pond. For some flyers, its the little things that make their decision NW. Although, I do hate that dreaded AMS layover when flying NW to Europe.
NWAskyteam From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 75 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (10 years 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9075 times:
NW maintained that they would not charge for liquor across the Atlantic as long as our main competitor (UA) was not charging. Now that is changed as UA is charging so don't be surprised if NW is soon to follow the lead of the rest of the American carriers. Do you think people will not fly a carrier because of it? Please, they go on a website and find a fare $10 cheaper and they book it. In my 13 years experience, the people who complain the most, want the most for the least amount. Loyal customers are that way for a myriad of reasons, it usually isn't the free liquor. I suppose there are always some, though.
: I disagree. People will moan, but the majority of tourist passengers on cheap eonomy fares really wont worry about it too much.. they will either go
: That's not entirely true. Continental is one of the only US domestic airlines that does not charge you for a meal on domestic flights. AA, UAL, NW, D
: NWAskyteam , Actually your "kind of right". NWA has said they will not charge as long as KLM does not charge. Has nothing to do with any other airline
: Doesn't UA still give a complimentary beer or wine with dinner? I could be wrong, but I thought I read that somewhere...
: I know many of us like free booze, but it may make sense to charge for it, especially in the cheap seats for several reasons. Not everybody drinks alc
: Quoting Stargoldlhr (reply 14): Europeans will just no - go on US airlines once the word spreads, and europeans are not as easy to win over once they
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: Not everyone eats the meals either? Why should drunkards like myself subsidise them? Don't worry, I discovered that AA charges for booze in the busine
: I'm so happy to see a European who appreciates United. I am French-American (yes, I know, such inner conflicts) and I like United best among US airli
: Nope. Or at least on my last 2 flights this year they haven't. http://www.unitedairlines.co.uk/qeng...avel_support/inflight/alcohol.html And I need t
: I would at least find it reasonable for the US carriers to at least offer a freebie with the meal, I find that a nice merlot deadens down the tastebud
: i dont really see much of an issue with this. whenever i go anywhere, i have to pay for a beverage...a restaurant...the theater...the symphony...the o
: Try flying IB.................you pay for everything, including soda and WATER on intra-European flights.
: VS, It is important to keep in mind that you dont pay $800 to get into a restaurant. Perks are always nice!
: I think the US-carries are making a big mistake. I work in a firm where we travel a lot to Europe, most of the employees are Europeans. All the ticket
: I think UA has always charges for alcohol in coach/economy. I think it is usually just the british airlines that serve free drinks on long-haul flight
: true, however i am paying the $800 for the fuel, limited use of space and actual transportation from point a to b.
: True, but you might end up paying $800 on the way out.
: Yep, they've always taken good care of me...I wish them well! Too bad because wine does compliment a meal rather nicely. I'll either have to live thr
: More reasons to fly the national carrier of the country I am visiting when flying international. Doesn't suprise me that Northwest doesn't charge for
: Though people are right when they say that charging for booze won't affect the decision of tourists to fly a certain airline, the bottom line is that
: Time to stop flying on United. They charge enough anyway...So much for the friendly skies....
: OB1783P You haven't ever been on a flight to New Zealand or Australia, have you?
: UA still offers free headsets, and they have ATC on channel 9. Of course, you don't get to keep the headset....
: I believe United was the first to offer free in-flight entertainment among the legacy carriers. Unfortunately, United's press release archives don't g
: I thinks it just cheapens the image of US carriers abroad. I'm a UA 1K frequent flyer and although I am usually in business, if I have to fly in econo
: Again a proof that business and hospitality are distinct categories.. I prefer the Asians on this, providing great services 9and cheaper prices!!) I c
: Flew UA FRA-ORD the other week and was surprised when they wanted $5 for a beer. When I asked for two, I got a shrug and was told to wait for the cart
: ANX4fishing, thanks for the laugh - great stories!
: Last time I flew United EWR-LAX-HNL-ORD-EWR in Sep. 2004, free meal was offered on all 4 flights and the fare was $340. Nice! [Edited 2005-03-04 07:2
: "Any ideas if EI are a good transatlantic carrier, especially if they have US customes at DUB/SNN" I flew DUB-ORD 8 days ago. Above Average service an
: I spoke to a US F/A who works transatlantic flights when I was in Charlotte for training a few weeks back, and she said that onboard medical emergenci
: I don't think there'll be an actual boycott, but it does present problems for codeshare partners. I flew AF CDG BOS and DL JFK NCE back a few months
: Those of you who are choosing NOT to fly an airline because they have elected to charge for liquor...do you mean to tell me you are SO cheap that you
: Maybe its a way of reducing the number of people who could get drunk on the flights, if it is then it is a very good idea
: Uh, no it is not a reality check For my trip to Paris in May (on the MSP-CDG market), Business class advance purchase tickets are running about $2300,
: ALITALIA 744.solution to the problem:take your JD bottle drink the contents, and refill when you get the urge ,if you have to pay for the use of toile
: The good thing is that often, non-American Airlines offering the full product are cheaper: so f.i. AI on JFK, ORD and LAX routes, PK to the US, and o
: Don't worry, I discovered that AA charges for booze in the business class lounges as well. Paying for alcohol is not just limited to those down back.
: In the 70s wasn't there some IATA rule against their members charging for drinks, so all the US, Euro carriers, who were nearly all in IATA couldn't g
: I liked to fly UA since they don't charge for the wine/beer. But I think this a bad way to save some money, and in the long run they will lose busines
: I'm Loyal to Star Alliance. Not US airlines nor United. If UA wants to become Ryanunited-air then let them. I fly 100k a year. From now on, LH, SK, BD
: An extra $160 dollars so you could have free drinks? Wow. Seriously.. other than free alcohol, what enhancements is the European carrier offering you
: Folks, everyone is going to have to face the fact, that ALL U.S. carriers charge domestically and almost all charge on International flights. Its just
: "Those of you who are choosing NOT to fly an airline because they have elected to charge for liquor...do you mean to tell me you are SO cheap that you
: There is several reasons I chose to pay extra to fly SK, other than UA for less money. #1 It is the principle, I just think that should be free when
: From my experience, service on the American carriers has always been friendly and efficient, and on a par with the Euro airlines I have travelled with
: We speak of how great Europeans airlines are, but how many of you know who's doing what? EI, for example is a horrible airline with a fee for alcohol.
: EI, IB, OA? Hardly the major or shining stars of european airlines - and they have limited routes structures. Although IB has an extensive south ameri
: Hmm yes.. but you shouldnt be charged until you go to open the door to get out... so you either give a dollar bill to the machine or the lavatory bec
: I can't agree more with you. The tourist traveler pay an awerage of $500 across the Atlantic, but it is the full price frequent travelelers that leav
: You just dont get it do you. I had this same arguement over champange to economy class pax just last week on a United flight to Sydney. I go to the U
: Well put Lufthansa! And this is coming from an American
: Superb! I like this one.. it shows that capitalism does not have to destroy a culture, as it has happened in my counbtry of birth and citizenship, th
: Anyone who has worked for an airline knows that competition is king. If AA or CO or US saw their load factors or bookings or yields drop because of ch
: KevinDCA fly to sydney and tell me that you paid $200 bucks? Yet we're still put in this same arguement? More like $2000 bucks.
: I have a theory that US Carriers are so full right now because the weak dollar makes them cheap for foreign customers. If the dollar strengthens, fact
: Lufthansa you have a great point, only 5% of the 300+ Million people in the US hold a passport! I have flown on over 120 international flights includi
: Lufthansa, Nope, it isn't $200 to Australia. But I wasn't talking about US-Australia. I was talking about UA and other US airlines charging for liquor
: I just saw a Qantas TV commerical advertising 999 USD round trip from LAX to SYD and 2 additional flight in Australia. That is a GREAT deal.
: Lufthansa I guess its time for YOU to start looking at it from the AMERICAN eyes, this is how AMERICA is doing business. This is how AMERICA views thi
: This is why we get the reputation of being "Ugly Americans" this country is 300 Million out of a 6.3 BILLION in the world. NW is a world airline, so w
: NWAFA said: Lufthansa I guess its time for YOU to start looking at it from the AMERICAN eyes, this is how AMERICA is doing business. This is how AMERI
: As noted in the thread, the cost of free booze to the airline - for those that even drink it on long hauls - is minimal, bad press and a negative publ
: NWAFA NWAFA: Do you fly International or Domestic. I really hope you only are flying Domestic.
: A little bit OT, but this Dilbert comic really captures, for me, the dichotomy in how the US perceives itself, and how foreigners tend to overreact to
: Is it really about "views", way of "doing business" and "culture"? Or is it about the sorry state of all legacy carriers in the US and the impact it
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: I think Lufthansa, you went a bit over the top with the link between cultural domination and charging for booze. The US airlines haven't withdrawn boo
: Hi NWAFA Seriously, like I said, you don't get it. As said earlier, only about 5% of Americans hold passports. Now given that, if you want your compan
: Usagypsy & Lufthansa, First of all, I received the top honor from the company for both 2004 and 2003 for Customer Satisfaction and Compliments out of
: Best US carrier for me used to be TWA !! Great people to fly with - they still had service ( and free drinks ) on Y class and don't even mention servi
: Sorry I don't really believe that someone would have said that. That are the problem, why do thinks different that the completion. Have a lower servi
: Yeah, but are US airlines family friendly?? This signature in connection with your statements are a good reason for me not to take NW.. you are not g
: NWAFA You still dont get the point. You're busy defending the home team when you don't realise, its not about the home team, its about winning market
: That is right Lufthansa! I am hopping on a SOUTHWEST 737G in about 2 hours to San Diego...whoops there is 400 dollars UA or NW didn't make .....oh wel
: I was on a UA flight a few weeks ago, going from DEN-SFO, and there was a group of passengers from Germany that were being a pain in the butt to the F
: Starlionblue I totally agreee. There are D-heads from every cornor of the globe....come on now, we all know some right? I also doubt some Germans woul