It also states how Continental Airlines is having a great sucess on the route.
And if you guys ask me, i think just getting a 767's for one route, sounds kinda stupid, its gonna cost alot of money....... SAS even states that they regretted that they got rid of their 767's soo fast.
CX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11096 times:
If this is true, then one really has to wonder if the actual CEO's are better at running the airlines or us. They just went through a massive long haul fleet renewal and practically dumped every Boeing widebody they had. Now they want the Boeings back!!!!! I have to say that I loved seeing 3 plu 767-300ERs at EWR on a daily basis back in the late 90s early 2000s.
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Probably a bit too large for the route, plus there aren't exactly fields of parked A330 aircraft of any type available at the moment! A 767 would be easier and cheaper to source.
Especially if SK can offload one of its underused A330 aircraft to BD temporarily, and ship in a 767 to cover. SK has a stake in BD and the latter is desperately looking to lease in another aircraft. The proposed LH arrangement for an A340 might not be ideal for them.
SK took a BD A332 for a while before their aircraft were delivered. The SK A333 could operate MAN-ORD, releasing an A332 for LHR-BOM. Just some rumours I heard about fleet possibilities.
Flying-b773 From Singapore, joined Apr 2001, 390 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10941 times:
The A330s that they have have around 250 seats, which seems slightly too big for the sector. Also, if there isnt much cargo on the route itself than it would be cheaper to operate the 767 for more cost savings. Guess the size of the 767 is really good at starting routes.... Way to go 767!! i love them...
AeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20784 posts, RR: 62
Reply 13, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 10943 times:
Quoting MauriceB (reply 5): they might get the HollandExel 767's back wich are ex SAS
In the last thread on SAS' 767's I asked about this, but no one was able to answer what the status of the Exel group was after their collapse. The websites for BelgiumExel and HollandExel both appear to be active, but all the content is in either French, Flemish or Dutch, and I'm unable to read it.
Anyone have any idea whether those planes are parked, or still running as charters for the tour operators listed on the Exel websites?
Emirates Skies From Australia, joined Nov 2001, 171 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10647 times:
Can't SAS get an A330-200 for the Oslo-Newark route? If an A330-200 is too big, can't they get an A310 or an A300 from somewhere? And shouldn't they consider getting an A350 or two for future longhaul ops (inc. EWR) out of Oslo for which the A330-200 might be too big? What on Earth is going on at SAS?
Vad hander SAS?!!! I really think this airline should get their act together. It's been confusing me lately
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Well, it is bigger, heavier and uses much more fuel than the 763. OSL-EWR is not the most heavily traveled route and CO is using a 752 on the route. An A333, or even A332 would be an absolute waste of capacity.
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Sk945 From Sweden, joined May 2002, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 10594 times:
There are a lot of rurmors (as usal). SAS have talked to Icelandair about leasing one or more B757 from them, to use on USA routes during the winter season. Also, there are a lot of rumors saying that SAS would bring back a couple of B763 to be used to open new routes. Ex ARN to Asia but also other new routes.
The A333/A343 could be to large and SAS have no money, but there are no used Airbuses around for SAS to buy. I thought that SAS stil own a couple of the stored B767. If so, its much cheaper to put them in traffic again.
Heisan67 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10430 times:
SAS is looking for about 5 aircrafts B757/767 in order to expand their route network. 10 months after closing their OSL-EWR they suddenly find it interesting again.... Note that CO opened a daily nonstop service just days after SAS pulled out. During winter they have operated 3 weekly flights. According to CO the service is doing very well. SAS didn't do a very good job...since they 10 months afterwards finds it possible to restart the service again.
SAS is desperate to get a longhaul route out of Oslo after CO started their service.
GodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2753 posts, RR: 16
Reply 21, posted (9 years 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10362 times:
SAS wouldn't be the first airline to retire a type from the fleet and then reintroduce it again... Air Canada and the L1011, Lufthansa and the 747-200,... But in SAS's case it would have really been better if they had kept them. What I really don't get is why they did not want to use the 767 for expansion after they got the A330/A340 fleet, after all the order was placed when things still looked really good in the Aviation scene.
But then again, wouldn't it be boring if there weren't any airlines that brighten up the scene with their fleet? After all it was very boring in Scandinavia for many years when basically every airline just used the MD-80...