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Stonecipher Resigns From Boeing  
User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4095 posts, RR: 90
Posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 13062 times:
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Apparently due to a "conflict of interest" after internal investigation. Hmmmm


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User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4095 posts, RR: 90
Reply 1, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12998 times:
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*BOEING FIRES CEO, CITING RELATIONSHIP WITH FEMALE EXECUTIVE

Oh Harry....thinking with the wrong part of the anatomy



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User currently offlineZonky From New Zealand, joined Nov 2004, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12997 times:

Source of this news?

User currently offlineZonky From New Zealand, joined Nov 2004, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12981 times:

http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/ 'Resigned' not 'sacked'

User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4095 posts, RR: 90
Reply 4, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12961 times:
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Quoting Zonky (reply 2):
Source of this news?


Is this good enough..?

By Dave Liedtka
March 7 (Bloomberg) -- Boeing Co. ousted Chief Executive
Officer Harry Stonecipher.
Chief Financial Officer James Bell was named interim chief
executive, the Chicago-based company said in a statement sent on
PR Newswire.


THE BOEING CO

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User currently offlineGodBless From Sweden, joined Apr 2000, 2752 posts, RR: 16
Reply 5, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12935 times:

So then now Boeing is all Boeing again without any MDD influences anymore...

Max


User currently offlineCo7772wuh From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12909 times:

Sounds like Stonecipher has been popping 1 too many Viagras !  blush 

User currently offlineBuckFifty From Canada, joined Oct 2001, 1316 posts, RR: 20
Reply 7, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12909 times:

'Resigned' not 'sacked'

If the board asks for your resignation, more or less it's a sacking. It just looks better on paper, as it doesn't seem Mr. Stonecipher wanted to leave...


User currently offlinePANAM_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4095 posts, RR: 90
Reply 8, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12900 times:
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Quoting Zonky (reply 3):
'Resigned' not 'sacked'


Call it what you will. He did not want to leave. In "Wall Street" language he got fired pure and simple. Even though it was not the operating performance of the Company. What he did, as the facts emerge, has impeded his ability to lead the Company and make sound judgements.



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User currently offlineZonky From New Zealand, joined Nov 2004, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12894 times:

hence the quote marks. Never the less, given the posts already made- some caution people. Libel does exist.

User currently offlineOkie From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2851 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 12878 times:

Born in 1936? 69yrs old

I have heard of a golden parachute before, but sounds like Viagra is a death nail.

Okie


User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2948 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12775 times:

Wow. Just what Boeing needed right now, another scandal. I have to say I am disappointed by Stonecipher's apparently poor judgment. At least Boeing seems to have acted quickly to nip this one in the bud.


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User currently offlineBestWestern From Hong Kong, joined Sep 2000, 6953 posts, RR: 57
Reply 12, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12755 times:



Photo: http://www.boeing.com/corp_gov/board_directors.html

Attractive ????

or  stirthepot   stirthepot   stirthepot 

Rich???



Mr. Stonecipher has served as Chief Executive Officer since December 1, 2003. He served as Vice Chairman of the Board of The Boeing Company from May 2001 until June 2002 and as President and Chief Operating Officer from 1997 until May 2001. He served as President and Chief Executive Officer of McDonnell Douglas Corporation (aerospace) from 1994 until its merger with Boeing in 1997. He was Chairman of the Board, President and Chief Executive Officer of Sundstrand Corporation (aerospace) from 1991 to 1994. Mr. Stonecipher is also a director of PACCAR, Inc. He is a member of the Special Programs Committee.

[Edited 2005-03-07 14:25:02]


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User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12679 times:

Interesting developement indeed. I wonder how much the commercial division of the company had an influence on this.  scratchchin 

I know it was a bit of a shocker to me when I heard it on the news this morning.  gasp 


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 14, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12664 times:

A reprimand and forfeit of an annual bonus would have been sufficient. This overreaction by the board seems like a violation of their fiduciary responsibility.

User currently offlineKeesje From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12648 times:

Lets hope his Darling wasn't Darleen..

IMO time for Mulally to take over.

What I've read & heard he an inspiration leader that can restore confidence & spirit among Boeing employees..



User currently offlineAvek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4281 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12500 times:

"A reprimand and forfeit of an annual bonus would have been sufficient. This overreaction by the board seems like a violation of their fiduciary responsibility."

Maybe in Lithuania, but not in the USA - a company is practically forced to fire an employee for any indiscretions involving sex and the workplace in order to avoid/minimize potential sexual harrasment liability.



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User currently offlineJMV From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 241 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12484 times:

“The Board concluded that the facts reflected poorly on Harry’s judgment and would impair his ability to lead the company,” said (Lew) Platt. (Board Chairman)

According to the Boeing press release, the Board has named James A. Bell, CFO, as interim President and CEO. http://www.boeing.com/companyoffices/aboutus/execprofiles/bell.html

“I know this is difficult news for everyone associated with Boeing, but we have strong leaders driving our businesses, and strong teams of employees driving performance,” Platt said. “At the same time, we are committed to strong ethical leadership. We have fought hard to restore our reputation. Everyone should know that if we see any improper activities, we will take decisive action.”

It certainly reinforces Boeing's commitment to high ethical standards. Considering the implications of lack of ethics, especially with regard to military contracts, I believe the board properly executed its fiduciary responsibilities.



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User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12470 times:

Who cares about being an inspirational leader. The inspiration will come to Boeings aircraft division, when they are able to kick the door down and get the vacuum cleaner sold. In this case the vacuum cleaner is a Boeing aircraft. Boeing needs more flexibility in giving the customer what they want and providing a can do attitude. There has been a lot of talk about pricing issues with Boeing Aircraft Sales. If they did value added selling then price should be less of an issue over performance and customer satisfaction. An inspiration would be getting the aircraft lines moving again and putting Boeing employees back to work.

Let us see.


User currently offlineNA From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10360 posts, RR: 11
Reply 19, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12437 times:

Employees are sacked or get fired, CEOs resign. Thats just a battle of words. Generals never get hanged, they shoot themselves.

That a CEO has to resign because of a love-affair in the year 2005 sounds like the return of the middle ages.
I bet there´s more to it and this was just the welcome death-nail. Otherwise I´d ask myself what kind of backward-looking puritans are sittting in the board of directors over there.


User currently offlineZvezda From Lithuania, joined Aug 2004, 10511 posts, RR: 64
Reply 20, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12433 times:

Quoting Avek00 (reply 16):
Maybe in Lithuania

In Lithuania, it would have been a non-issue. It's more likely the person bringing it to the attention of the board would have been disciplined for wasting the board's time.


User currently offlineWhiteHatter From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12423 times:

What a load.

So Harry has been dipping his wick. Big effing deal. Stonecipher's leadership has seen a resurgence in Boeing and the end of the Condit rudderless strategy where Boeing had been milked for every cent the money men could wring from it.

Under Stonecipher Boeing managed to rehabilitate its reputation, launch new projects and present a new, more aggressive marketing image. So what do the jerks in Chicago do?

The shareholders should start considering their positions and act against the stuffed shirts who led this action. Mulally is the natural to succeed Harry, but don't hold your breath. Any common sense at board level seems to have deserted Boeing.

Frankly I'm disgusted. Harry had the experience of GE, MDD and Boeing, and they sack him for porking someone not even in his immediate food chain.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26196 posts, RR: 76
Reply 22, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12280 times:

Quoting GodBless (reply 5):
So then now Boeing is all Boeing again without any MDD influences anymore...


There are still people at Boeing, including on the board, from MDC

Quoting WhiteHatter (reply 21):
Frankly I'm disgusted. Harry had the experience of GE, MDD and Boeing, and they sack him for porking someone not even in his immediate food chain.


In his position, everyone is in his food chain. Sexual harassment is about power and if he uses his position in any way to gain sexual favors, he opens the door to major sexual harassment litigation that could cost Boeing millions in cash as well as millions in goodwill.



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User currently offlineBackfire From Germany, joined Oct 2006, 0 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12268 times:

Frankly I'm disgusted. Harry had the experience of GE, MDD and Boeing, and they sack him for porking someone not even in his immediate food chain.



You have to remember that Boeing has just spent months apologising and trying to restore a bit of squeaky-cleanliness to its image after the tawdry USAF business and everything beforehand - the last thing it needs is its CEO tarnishing things again.


User currently offlineIcaro From Spain, joined Nov 2004, 227 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12242 times:

Why should Boeing sack him for a private affair? The only one to say something about his behavior is his wife, who should sack him from home, but that it is.
Quite stupid of Boeing to fire someone who is doing a good job, or maybe wasn't that the case????


25 777236ER : If it were a private affair, there wouldn't be a problem. But it was an affair with an employee, and an executive at that. Given the USAF troubles and
26 ODwyerPW : Icaro, A sexual relationship is a strong, motivating force. Two executives involved in such a relationship can't be counted on to always make balanced
27 DL021 : The woman was not improperly promoted or paid. She was not under his direct supervision, nor was there any wrongdoing found. The private lives of thes
28 Bennett123 : What are the policy implications. This must have an impact during the transition period.
29 Clickhappy : You people need to learn to read between the lines. Things are always so black and white in the world, aren't they? Armchair CEO's indeed. There have
30 Okie : Not the first time intermingling between higher ups. Clinton-Lewenski come to mind. I guess I am really surprised of the public disclosure by Boeing o
31 BestWestern : Yep - I would agree that there is more to come out regarding this... "some issues of poor judgment" = "some major issues that mean we fired our boss"
32 LMP737 : It never ceases to amaze me how intelligent men who should know better let the "little brain" do the thinking for them. I hope she was worth it Harry.
33 Kanebear : Some of you have very short memories. Even back in 2003 when Stonecipher was announced as the CEO popular scuttlebutt was that he wouldn't be around l
34 Wjcandee : Stonecipher wasn't looking to leave. There's an excellent summary in an AP article on the reasons for the ousting, including that Boeing has a strong
35 Racko : Anybody got a picture of the female executive? Would be necessary to check if it was worth it.
36 Post contains links Aa777jr : http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,149597,00.html He didn't resign in honor, he was fired with disgrace. This is the 2nd CEO to go in as many years.
37 Clickhappy : dude, you need to look up the word "sodomized." I don't think anyone ever said Clinton shoved a cigar in Monica Lewinsky's butt.
38 BAW716 : This is just BAD news. Stonecipher was just plain stupid. As to posts about Mullally taking over, personally, I really like this guy; however, his exp
39 Post contains images Brons2 : I assume, that there was no pun intended with this posting!
40 ReLAX : Does anyone think that this kind of disciplinary action would happen in Toulouse? No wonder most of Europe views us as Puritans caught in the middle a
41 Post contains images Magyar : Hmm, perhaps a young attractive female associate of a certain company based in southern France successfully penetrated the Pacific Northwest?
42 FLY2LIM : The report I read stated that he owns the highest number of Boeing shares that any individual has. I wish I had Harry's problems. This is a "scandal"
43 Brons2 : You guys kill me! ROFL!!! back on topic...I think this is bad news for Boeing and dumb to boot. They should have kept the relationship on the DL thou
44 SunriseValley : Confuscius say "never dip pen in office inkwell"
45 Brons2 : Don't get your Honey where you get your Money!
46 ClipperNo1 : Sorry to sound a bit "macho" (not tooo many women here anyway, eh?) But since when get's the male part of the affair fired? We all know this stuff hap
47 PDXFlyer : In this case, it is not the puritans among us who drove the laws and labor practices to this point. Instead it was NOW and other groups pressing harr
48 Ltbewr : Boeing has a clear policy on this. Someone blew the whistle, and there was an investigation. It was determined Stonecipher violated policy. Both the w
49 Daedaeg : If Mullally does take over, the first thing he should do is bring the HQ back to Seattle. Boeing and Seattle are one and together. Being in Chicago do
50 FLY2LIM : Yes, only Stonecipher's name was disclosed, and he was the only one fired. Again, it was consensual. I understand that there are many legal issues he
51 Post contains images DAYflyer : Or more likely the inverse....the Pacific Northwest penetrated the young attractive female associate ....     [Edited 2005-03-07 21:55:14]
52 WGW2707 : I have to say, this is one of the dumbest actions I've seen taken by a major corporation this year. It rivals Verizon's proposed acquisition of MCI in
53 ETStar : Hmmm and this guy is married with children! At least now we know Boeing does not condone extramarital affairs... hopefully they also will not condone
54 Piedmontbrat : As my father often time emphasized.... "You never get your honey at the same place you make your money!"
55 Post contains images Glideslope : Actually, the opposite would be more likely. I say go get Jack Welch out of retirement. He knows how to keep it "out of the building."
56 KUGN : Nobody would care if CEO was engaging in extracorricular activity, except his wife perhaps; however, if he is engaging a fellow executive, it could ra
57 Piedmontbrat : I still stand behind my post.... In more direct words, if you become involved either romatically or emotionally involved with someone at your workplac
58 LMP737 : Even though she did not report directly to him one must not forget that Harry was still the top guy at Boeing. Which means that in one way or another
59 Starlionblue : In more direct words, if you become involved either romatically or emotionally involved with someone at your workplace, you risk career and objective
60 FLY2LIM : All fine and dandy, except that Boeing has not sacked Harry due to morals. I would say that the primary concern is the "bottom line". Boeing could ca
61 Wjcandee : A board member was just on Neil Cavuto's show on Fox News Channel. What I got from one person's comments was that: (1) The affair alone wasn't why he
62 Starlionblue : Quoting LMP737 (reply 58): Imagine if you were a Boeing employee and you thought to yourself "The company expects me to conduct myself in an ethical m
63 Post contains images Sabenapilot : And why exactly should Boeing be on an ethics kick right now? Boeings corporate mission had always been to build planes, not to promote good moral fa
64 Keesje : How many female executives are there at Boeing. Assuming it wasn´t Darleen Druyun it must be a matter of time before it becomes clear.. And of course
65 Scbriml : I work for an American company, and we have to sign a Code of Ethics compliance form each year. This code totally dictates how we must conduct oursel
66 Co7772wuh : Boeing's stock closed today 3/07/05 at $58.30 , only down 8 cent ! Be careful how you look at someone !!! You can get F*cked for doing nothing !!!
67 Bill142 : It was probably a calculated move as Stonecipher has tried on a number of occasions to retire but for various reasons hasn't been able to.
68 BlackKnight : Is it just me or is the belief in God dead outside the USA. Hey maybe we are a bunch of Puritians but I disagree about the being in the middle ages.
69 WhiteHatter : The tail in question was not attached to an aircraft
70 BlackKnight : Sorry maybe not the best examples. I hope you get the point.
71 Post contains images Co7772wuh : You Britts !
72 LMP737 : Did Boeing take the "bottom line" into consideration when they asked for his resignation? Of course they did. No company makes a move without conside
73 ContnlEliteCMH : You bet! I'm one of those "Puritans." That's what I love about liberals. You can't disagree with them. If I don't share your viewpoint, you feel comp
74 Cb777 : Can u say---NEW CEO GORDON BETHUNE
75 ReLAX : Funny, I am a life-long Republican!
76 Wjcandee : ConEliteCMH: Bravo. I went to a high school with an honor code, a college with an honor code, a law school with an honor code, and I work in a profess
77 AirbusDriver : well all i got to say is Boeing Made a mistake I think He was doing doing a good job. For all the born again get a life!!!
78 LMP737 : I think you already know the answer to your first question. Maybe bribes and insider dealing is okay over there but it's sort of frowned upon over he
79 N1120A : Stonecipher is the one who made the mistake, putting the company at risk of major litigation. In this age of countless corporate scandals, the last t
80 Brons2 : haha best thread ever! reply #69....lol lol lol. What I want to know are two things: 1. Who is this woman. 2. What does she look like. I hope she was
81 Yyz717 : The private lives of these two people did not impact the operations of the company, unless there is something we are not being told, which is possible
82 Post contains images Co7772wuh : I thought we Americans were a bunch of Murdering Oil mongors ! Kill anything and everything for oil. Morals in the US hit an all time low in the 90's
83 Avek00 : Iif Stonecipher's actions led to a massive lawsuit (which would not doubt reveal info. damaging to the company in one form or another) and/or a front-
84 ContnlEliteCMH : Me too. I'm conservative fiscally and socially. There is room in this tent for those who are fiscally conservative, but not socially conservative. I
85 Spike : That is hilarious! Dirty old git.
86 Blackknight : Wjcandee and ContnlEliteCMH welcome to my respect user list
87 Unicorn : You lot really don't get it do you. Get your collective head out of your pants and read what was said. As pointed out by Clickhappy (reply #29) he was
88 Cloudy : Stonecipher is a CEO and he was paid a huge salary to basically sign his life over to the company and lead it. I have no problem with the board gettin
89 Lehpron : What does this mean for Boeing, just a passing theme?
90 Starlionblue : Funny how this thread derailed. Not totally unexpected of course. It is true after all, ReLax had it right, Americans are fully obsessed with moral an
91 JMV : ContnlEliteCMH, In spite of you being a Bucknut fan, this Spartan welcomes you to his Respected User list (and congrats on the victory over the Illini
92 Sabenapilot : In fact I have lived in the USA LMP737; I have spend 7 months of my live in the desert of Arizona building my flying skills.... However, allow me to
93 Leelaw : Now you're bashing Americans for going to church? I suppose churchgoers are by definition feeble minded? How very offensive and absurdly judgmental.[
94 Post contains images Sabenapilot : Thank you for your kind compliments!  Now, seriously, If one asks me: I can only answer honestly and immediately, can I? Anything else would be deem
95 AvObserver : "I think anybody with a bit of an understanding of what the average European mentality right now is, can say for sure Airbus would not make such a sca
96 707437 : Let he who is without sin cast out the first CEO. . . Err stone. . .Stonecipher Get real people if your religious beliefs are sincere you can discuss
97 Starlionblue : And please don't blindly bash Europe I'm sure they have a higher tolerance for this sort of thing because their women are so much more tempting. Thx f
98 Brons2 : Wow, wow, wow. How is it that every single thread degrades into some sort of US-EU shouting match? At the risk of adding fuel to the fire however, Sab
99 QantasHeavy : Basic management rule: don't screw the crew.
100 707437 : What percentage of American ever spend more than 7 months in a foreign country? (Without being deployed by the military). Granted this limited tenure
101 Starlionblue : Basic management rule: don't screw the crew. There are nuances to everything, and this is a corporation, not a warship. I know plenty of people who me
102 Lutfi : As is pointed out time and time again. He WASNT fired for having an affair. He WAS fired for issues brought up during the investigation. My GUESS - pr
103 Post contains images Emrecan : offfff women.. they are our biggest and unsolvable problems he he
104 Commander_rabb : OK. Interesting to note that he HAD to come to the U.S. to further his career. Seven months in the Arizona desert? That would be like an American sta
105 Aloha717200 : He broke the code of conduct but apparently there were other issues that contributed to his being asked to resign. This seems to be only the tip of an
106 Co7772wuh : No ! Thank God No ! Common sense ain't too common any more , unfortunatly !
107 Post contains images Sabenapilot : First of all, thanks for turning this topic away from Stonecipher and onto my person, I am greatly honoured. I am glad you say so, obviously I fully a
108 Leelaw : Boeing Press Release 03/07/05: ...The Board actions were taken following an investigation by internal and external legal counsel of the facts and cir
109 Post contains images Sabenapilot : Because it would have avoided giving a very very bad image of the internal working methods at Boeing maybe? Have a look at this paragraph: The Board
110 Post contains links WhiteHatter : Seems that 59% of people respondding to CNN Money's poll agree with me that Boeing have overreacted. This stinks of a palace coup, and the individual
111 Post contains links JMV : From the Wall Street Journal today: http://online.wsj.com/article/0,,SB1...076,00.html?mod=home_whats_news_us For those of you with a subscription...
112 Post contains images Starlionblue : I suppose some folks will not accept this for what I believe it to be - the firing of a CEO for using poor judgement, which undermined his ability to
113 WhiteHatter : I couldn't care less if he turned up to work in a rubber cocktail frock singing Rogers and Hammerstein numbers, then had anal sex on his desk in the
114 Post contains images Starlionblue : I couldn't care less if he turned up to work in a rubber cocktail frock singing Rogers and Hammerstein numbers, then had anal sex on his desk in the l
115 JMV : Thought folks might be interested in the standard Mr. Stonecipher and Boeing set with their Code of Conduct. Again, the source is The Wall Street Jour
116 LMP737 : Who exactly is "you guys"? One could interpret this as all Americans. That paints an inaccurate picture since not everyone here believes in the bible
117 Sabenapilot : May I point out that at the time of these great religious conflicts in Europe, "you guys" were still living amongst us, so that in fact the medieval
118 Supa7E7 : We really don't know what is going on here. On the face of it, just having a "relationship" with someone in your company is NOT grounds for dismissal.
119 LMP737 : Once again who is "you guys"? I'm quite sure this is news to my fellow Americans who are not of european decent. And I could also say that the reason
120 Brons2 : 221 commercial orders in the first quarter so far (still have 3 weeks to go), a stock price that is riding high, and the re-opening of US gov't order
121 ContnlEliteCMH : This is either an incredibly arrogant position, or one of supreme ignorance. Yeah, you gotta admit, some of those principles are really no longer per
122 PDXFlyer : What really has me shaking my head at this thread derailment is that the sexual conduct clauses being referred to here were driven by LIBERAL groups i
123 Post contains links LMP737 : Interesting article. http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/050308/boeing_changing_ethics_5.html
124 Vorticity : Thought I'd re-emerge briefly to comment on this. I think part of the problem is his use of company email in the affair, and embrassing and inappropri
125 Post contains images Starlionblue : Quoting Sabenapilot (reply 95): Going to church is just fine, I even admire those still feeling the force to go there in today's hectic world, but try
126 Post contains images Keesje : Things have been going MUCH BETTER since Stonecihper replaced Condit. That is true. Mr Condit's had several relationships with Boeing employees, and i
127 Post contains images ContnlEliteCMH : Stirring the pot, are we? Of course it's pertinent to an affair in 2005. Actually, I personally would not care if Mr. Stonecipher had an affair with
128 Starlionblue : His affair was with an underling. When you are the chief, *everybody* is an underling, and that eliminates the entire company from the "dip the wick"
129 Krushny : As my father often time emphasized.... "You never get your honey at the same place you make your money!" Or as we say in Spain : "Donde tengas las oll
130 Superfly : OK so what did this guy do wrong?
131 WhiteHatter : he got caught playing the trouser snake game with a woman who works for the company, and all the darling little saints decided he had to pay with his
132 Superfly : Insaine. I see no reason for him to step down.
133 Post contains images Backfire : Anyone want to know which girl cost him his job? Because I know
134 Keesje : Deb from Washington I believe.. brown eyes, dark half long hair
135 Mham001 : As somone wisely mentioned earlier, these codes of conduct have in general been instigated for political reasons, not religious. And generally from t
136 Unicorn : Superfly said "OK so what did this guy do wrong?" He undertook a laison with a woman, Debra Peabody, a Washington-based Boeing vice-president for oper
137 Post contains images Backfire : Deb from Washington I believe.. brown eyes, dark half long hair Then you and I think the same thing Keesje - saw a pic of her today, it's floating aro
138 Superfly : I justy asked a question. I didn't say any of the above. Stop assuming what others think.
139 Post contains links JMV : The Board actions were taken following an investigation by internal and external legal counsel of the facts and circumstances surrounding a personal
140 BeechNut : Question to all you experts on moral conduct: does having an illicit and secret affair make you a security risk if you possess inside knowledge of mil
141 LTBEWR : An article on MSNBC states that Boeing is investigating the woman involved with Stonechiper after 'double standard' complaints inside the company were
142 Bennett123 : LTBEWR is that formerly or formally married.
143 Post contains images Superfly : He's losing his job because of an old bag?
144 PANAM_DC10 : I believe Boeing have a retirement age of 65. In the case of Mr Stonecipher the Board waived this clause. This was due to their need for him after Mr
145 Unicorn : Superfly, I was not making a comment on your question, rather on some of the heated statements made by others on this thread. If you or others though
146 Leelaw : WSJ 03/11/05: "Boeing Ex-CEO Won't Be Offered Retirement Perks Former Boeing Co. chief Harry Stonecipher, who was forced to resign this week after the
147 L410Turbolet : However we now live in the era of sexual harassment lawsuits, Enron and Worldcom scandals. So now what you have are Board of Directors at various comp
148 Post contains images Keesje : the biggest problem was that Stonecipher and his new friend had exchanged sexually graphic e-mails on the Boeing system, in violation of company polic
149 Avek00 : Again, the Boeing BOD must be applauded for containing this mess before it could have gone out of hand in one of many directions: 1. The woman involve
150 Post contains links and images Zone1 : I read an article at Business Week about the Stonecipher's affair, and how Boeing's culture just is plain aweful--even Mulally's. You can read it here
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