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Cessna 207 Crashes On Soccer Field With Video.  
User currently offlineArmitageShanks From UK - England, joined Dec 2003, 3620 posts, RR: 15
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9456 times:

I just found this on the net. Pretty scary!!

http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?ev_id=20030805X01271&key=1

http://www.goldpanners.com/pannervis...tent/07-31-03_plane-crash_200K.wmv

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User currently offlineReLAX From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9353 times:

Just goes to prove that adherence to checklists is essential.

BTW - all of the action in that video takes place in the first 20-30 seconds. Don't bother with the rest - unless you enjoy listening to amateur play-by-play announcers.



"Roger, Roger. What's our vector, Victor?"
User currently onlineGoldenshield From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 6014 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9258 times:

The fact that he didn't keep the tanks balanced just boggles my mind!


Two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a sesame seed bun.
User currently offlineHirisk From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 223 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 8937 times:

i guess it pays to do a pre-trip inspection  crackup 

oil checkmark 
map checkmark 
fuel, got plenty redflag 

i give the landing a goldmedal 



happy contrails
User currently offlineRaginMav From United States of America, joined May 2004, 376 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8875 times:

A wise pilot once told me the best way to keep from running out of fuel in a small, single engine aircraft: drink two cups of coffee prior to takeoff, thus ensuring your bladder is full before you tanks are empty!  Wink

User currently offlineCaptSkibi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 150 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8696 times:

A wise pilot once told me the best way to keep from running out of fuel in a small, single engine aircraft: drink two cups of coffee prior to takeoff, thus ensuring your bladder is full before you tanks are empty!

RaginMav,

That's good - I like it. But since I don't drink coffee or tea, would water work? The only thing is it's not a diuretic, so would Coke work if it's caffeinated?

I actually have it on my checklist to make sure the passengers and myself have recently used the bathroom prior to take-off. However, I'm one of those "don't trust anyone". I always check the fuel quantity if I didn't fill the tanks. Even if that handy FBO employee comes out and helps me fuel, if I'm not fueling, or if I didn't see fuel overflow (or at least the gauge on the pump), I check it. And if I didn't check the fuel quantity before adding fuel, I try to only use the amount that I saw pumped in for my useful fuel (but I use all estimated for weight & balance). I'd rather play it safe and land early in one piece  airplane  than arrive some other way  tombstone .

I'm glad everyone was pretty much okay.



Private Pilot, Airplane Single Engine Land / DL Gold Elite
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 8630 times:

Is it just me, or does that look completely fake?  Confused

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineMeister808 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 973 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 8595 times:

Quoting Newark777 (reply 6):
Is it just me, or does that look completely fake?


Um, no, I think it was just you. Looks like a genuine plane crash to me.

-Meister



Twin Cessna 812 Victor, Minneapolis Center, we observe your operation in the immediate vicinity of extreme precipitation
User currently offlineType-Rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4985 posts, RR: 19
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8517 times:

Even though I hate to say it, I hope that pilot learned a lesson!
During a preflight in a 207, or any GA Single or Twin you are susposed to visually check the fuel in both tanks for fuel quanity and fuel color (correct grade). This guy did niether. And then not to switch tanks. What an idiot!
The way I was always taught:

1. Upon engine failure immediately trim for best glide rate.
2. Find a field to land in.
3 Turn on Fuel Pumps, if equipped.
4. SWITCH TANKS to another tank.
5. Send out Mayday on 121.5
6. Kill Master Switch right before touch down.

The 207 doesn't care which tank you run off of, but this guy made a habit of running off of one tank only, and then to have his commercial ticket! What does he do on long distance trips, land when the right tank empties even though he has a 30 gallon full tank on the left?

Sorry to be such an ass about this, but some people never learn! I always like cruising the NTSB website, you always find stupid things people do.

15K hours and I have never scratched an airplane yet!



Fly North Central Airlines..The route of the Northliners!
User currently offlineNoUFO From Germany, joined Apr 2001, 7951 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8428 times:

They can be happy the plane didn't catch fire.


I support the right to arm bears
User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 8438 times:

Yeah I remember when that happened. It is a real crash, made George Michaels "Sports Machine" that next Sunday.

He got lucky, he managed to put it between the baseball game and that football field with the kids on it.


Quoting Goldenshield (reply 2):
The fact that he didn't keep the tanks balanced just boggles my mind!


Story was that he had been trained to only use the other side as an "Aux" tank. I don't know who is the bigger fool, him or the fool that gave him that advice.


He almost made it back to MRI, he maybe had about another minute of flying.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineANCFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8400 times:

Quoting Newark777 (reply 6):
Is it just me, or does that look completely fake?

Harry


Nope, it's the real deal Harry . . . there was an Anchorage Bucs (minor league baseball) game going on at the moment . . . it was big news . . .


User currently offlineSammyk From United States of America, joined Oct 1999, 1690 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8387 times:
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Man, with the way the announcer was going I was expecting him to yell "Oh, the Humanity!"

User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 8320 times:

They where playing the Goldpanners out of Fairbanks that day which is where the audio is from, the video was from a KTUU cameraman.

The Alaska Basebally League, one of the best kept secrets in Baseball.

Tom Seaver, Fairbanks Gold Panners 1964
Dave Winfield, Fairbanks Gold Panners 1971
Floyd Bannister, Fairbanks Gold Panners 1974
Frank Viola , Penninsula Oilers 1980
Barry Bonds, Fairbanks Gold Panners 1983
Bobby Thigpen, Penninsula Oilers 1984
Bret Boone, Fairbanks Gold Panners 1988
John Olerud, Penninsula Oilers 1988
Jeff Cirillo, Penninsual Oilers 1989
Jason Giambi, Fairbanks Gold Panners 1990
Rich Aurilia, Penninsula Oilers 1990
Bobby Jones, Anchorage Bucs 1990
Calvin Murray, Anchorage Bucs
Mark Redman, Anchroage Bucs

There are a hell of a lot of others in the MLB but I don't have time to list them.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineQantasHeavy From Australia, joined Jan 2005, 379 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 8250 times:

I wonder if the piliot knew what an AUX tank is for???

User currently offline777WT From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 875 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6090 times:

Anyone ever noticed two people near the Cessna left wingtip after it did a 180* didn't move like they didn't see it come in, looked like it wasn't more than 15-20 ft away from it.

User currently offlineWdleiser From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5836 times:

ahh I see that Fairbanks likes to produce 2 of the biggest steroid users in baseball right now  Smile

User currently offlineStall From Switzerland, joined Apr 2004, 257 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5678 times:

I was wondering if the plane stalled just before touching the ground ? It seems that the left wing dropped ?

When I am flying I try to have a large margin of safety (think altitude) to select a adequate spot for crashing. Kids playing baseball or soccer don't fit in my definition of adequate spot.

I know it is easy to criticize sitting in a chair but I think that this 'professional' pilot was not up to the task.



Flying is fun
User currently offlineDavid L From United Kingdom, joined May 1999, 9524 posts, RR: 42
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 5559 times:

"It's on fire!" - just shows how seriously eye-witness accounts should be taken.

User currently offlineLightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13005 posts, RR: 100
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5230 times:
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Quoting RaginMav (reply 4):
A wise pilot once told me the best way to keep from running out of fuel in a small, single engine aircraft: drink two cups of coffee prior to takeoff, thus ensuring your bladder is full before you tanks are empty!


 rotfl  Greate quote!

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineL-188 From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 29795 posts, RR: 58
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

Quoting Stall (reply 17):
I was wondering if the plane stalled just before touching the ground ? It seems that the left wing dropped ?


I think the generally concensus is that he was trying to "Stretch" his glide.



OBAMA-WORST PRESIDENT EVER....Even SKOORB would be better.
User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39852 posts, RR: 74
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 4464 times:

That is an amazing video! The girls soccer team is rather cute also!  Smile
Glad no one was killed.



Bring back the Concorde
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 30
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4159 times:

I guess I'll take your word for it that it's real. I guess the way the plane seems to "skip" on the tape as it is coming down and crossing the fence gives that impression. Oh well, I've been wrong before.  Embarrassment

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offlineSacflyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 371 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4132 times:

David L,

Don't take this too seriously, but what is your definition of "on fire."

I think if you see smoke and/or flames you can pretty much assume that it is on fire.

I don't think the announcer was out of line is saying within two seconds of seeing a fireball from a cartwheeling airplane that it was on fire.



I'm just happy that RR ratings can't be in negative numbers!
User currently offlineLMP737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 4081 times:

Watching that video was torture, the first ten seconds I mean.  Wink

25 PITA333 : WOW! How crazy was that. I am glad that no one on the ground was hurt. Just another textbook pilot error, could have been prevented. PITA333
26 David L : Sacflyer, I was all set for a smart reply till I watched the clip again - on a better monitor. It's a fair cop - I didn't see the burst of flames the
27 Airgeek12 : Oy! that's horrible! thx for the vid, though
28 L-188 : Yeah but we got to see them before they became junkies
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