Carnival Air Lines was formed in 1988 by the Carnival Cruise Lines after this company purchased the Pacific Interstate Airlines. The present name was adopted one year later. The airline flies feeder services between US airports and the parent company's ships in the Caribbean ocean. Carnival also flies scheduled services out of Miami to Los Angeles, New Orleans, Housten and Chicago.
1996 saw the start of an international service from Miami to Lima (Peru) in co-operation with Faucett. It has a maintenence base at Holliwood International Airport.
Destinations: Los Angeles, New York/Newark, Orlando, Tampa, White Plains & Charter flights.
PHX Flyer From United States, joined Apr 2001, 338 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1445 times:
Not quite correct:
Carnival Airlines was renamed Pan American Airways (= Pan Am III), whereas Pan Am II was Pan American World Airways. Following the financial merger, the two airlines operated side by side on two separate operating certificates. The operations were never merged, because the owners ran out of money before they could make it happen. Sadly, during the bankruptcy proceedings, the Guilford Group outbid Carl Icahn and acquired Pan Am's assets. They used the Carnival/Pan Am III certificate to relaunch the airline as a charter airline first, and later added this pathetic "scheduled" service to third and fourth-tier airports. Recently, in an effort to outsmart the pilots' union, Pan Am III was shut down, and Guilford now uses the operating certificate of its regional subsidiary Boston-Maine Airways to operate Pan Am IV. However, Pan Am IVmight very well be Pan Am V, because at some stage last year, Guilford decided to establish an offspring in the Dominican Republic - Pan Am Dominica. I am not sure though, if the latter ever had large aircraft on its certificate, or just Jetstreams. I eventually lost interest in this sorry excuse of an airline.
MSYtristar From United States, joined Aug 2005, 5429 posts, RR: 55 Reply 5, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 1321 times:
I flew a Pan Am-operated flight on a Carnival B727-200 fromn MDW to MIA in June '97. On the way back, it was another Carnival 727, this time in the "Miami Heat" colors. The seating was one class, high density, around 175 seats I believe. Nice flights and excellent service, although both were over two hours late in each direction due to mechanical issues.
UA's 744 Y-class seat is more comfortable than DL's new 77L Y-class seat.
Quoting PHX Flyer (reply 3): Carnival Airlines was renamed Pan American Airways (= Pan Am III), whereas Pan Am II was Pan American World Airways.
If I'm not mistaken "Pan Am II" actually grew out of the estate of Eastern Airlines, not from the original Pan Am. It was originally intended to raise money for Eastern's estate or for the creditors who had been fleeced by Frank Lorenzo's last reorganization plan in 1990.
PHX Flyer From United States, joined Apr 2001, 338 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 1245 times:
@Kkfla737
Yes, Pan Am II was definitely unrelated to the original, it just used the exact same name. The founder of PA II, Marty Shugrue, was also a court-appointed trustee for the estate of Eastern Airlines (and in his previous life a top executive with the original). Launching PA II gave him an opportunity to put the ex-Eastern A300 back in service again.
Njdevilsin03 From United States, joined Apr 2004, 655 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1214 times:
They deff had a big operation out of FLL. flights to the Bahamas, SWF,EWR, ISP and also a A300 to Lax that was just a few of the destinations.
IslipWN From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 11, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 1025 times:
LAX, EWR, JFK, ISP, MIA, FLL, PBI, SJU, SWF, and a few other caribbean destinations. I am looking at a few carnival timetables right now if anyone wants any specifics on which routes had which aircrafts etc. just say it on this thread!
ATCRick From United States, joined Jun 2004, 765 posts, RR: 19 Reply 14, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 985 times:
Islip,
Thank you. That sounds familiar. What I was thinking was that OP was the 2 letter code for Pan AM II. And I didnt know about Chalks. Too bad. They've been around a long time and I love those Turbo Mallards.
OB1504 From United States, joined Jul 2004, 2301 posts, RR: 10 Reply 17, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 847 times:
Quoting Airgeek12 (Reply 15): Was Carnival air supposed to be some transport thing so you could get on the Carnival cruise line?
Quoting Jerion (Reply 2): Carnival Air Lines was formed in 1988 by the Carnival Cruise Lines after this company purchased the Pacific Interstate Airlines. The present name was adopted one year later. The airline flies feeder services between US airports and the parent company's ships in the Caribbean ocean. Carnival also flies scheduled services out of Miami to Los Angeles, New Orleans, Housten and Chicago.
Alb222 From United States, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 802 times:
KW had started to serve the Crystal Palace Hotel and Casino, Cable Beach, Nassau, Bahamas a property owned and operated by Carnival.
Gambling junkets from FLL were quite common................add the cruise ships and KW just grew. Too bad they didn't stick around.
Spinkid From United States, joined Jul 2001, 907 posts, RR: 3 Reply 19, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 781 times:
They also used to serve HPN-FLL
I remember a snowstorm that cancelled my flight and I had to rebook for the following day. At first the agent (obviously from Florida) tried to convince me to take an Islip flight, stating that Islip wasn't that far away from HPN.
I wound up flying JFK-MIA on a codeshare with Lan Chile on a 767. It was a great flight that included a meal. Pretty nice for my $200 roundtrip ticket.
ACVitale From United States, joined Aug 2001, 921 posts, RR: 31 Reply 20, posted (4 years 8 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 577 times:
FYI,
Chalk's is NOT closing down. The airline has a fleet of 3 Turbo Mallards. One is down for repair after a hydro line failure coming up the seaplane ramp in Paradise Island. It suffered hull damage when the gear retracted while proceeding up the ramp. The aircraft also had salt water enter the passenger compartment when high tide hit. It will be out of service until at least the end of the month.
The second airplane just had a new JT6-34 engine installed. (One of the old engine had reached end of useful life) and began flying today.
The third airplane is flying a regular schedule with no issues.
Additionally, Chalks owns three additional G73 T Mallards and they are slowly working to return them to flying status.
Last I heard was they would be phased in about one every 10-11 months as they were finished. They will be entirely stripped and skins, spars, etc checked replaced as needed. New interiours put in, New engines and avionics etc. Word is the the first of these will begin in the next 60 days with introduction to service in April of 2006.
Chalk's is the world's oldest continiously operating airline, Flying since 1919 and still going strong.
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