Sponsor Message:
Civil Aviation Forum
My Starred Topics | Profile | New Topic | Forum Index | Help | Search 
The Life Of A KLM F/A (Many Photos Included)  
User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 12441 times:

KLM Life Photo Album

The above link is to a photo album via Pbase.com. It's the life of a now (ex)
KLM f/a. Her contract was up and she was out. While it lasted it was a great job, clearly, and was well documented through her pictures. There are many of them.

Great find and a great few moments to view such a great album. Both on and off the job

Enjoy!

Matt


"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
25 replies: All unread, showing first 25:
 
User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12238 times:

This was a KLM flight attendant based in HKG
KLM has F/A and onboard translators for flights to ICN, KIX, NRT, PVG, PEK and HKG. I also think they did that on the KL 0877 to BKK/TPE.
All of them carry two stripes and are hired only for a certain period. (I think 4 years maximum).

KLM also had local F/A from India on its flight to BOM, DEL and CCU. I think they were loans from Jet Airways? Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

Do more airlines have crew basis outside their own country, specifically designed to overcome cultural and language barriers?

Globe Trekker

[Edited 2005-03-08 09:22:01]


The World Is A Book And Those Who Do Not Travel Read Only A Page
User currently offlineSammyhostie From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 12169 times:

I dont know really, JAL and CX I know have crews based at LHR, but you have to be fluent in Cantonese or whatever to fly with them.

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 11607 times:

My best friend was a LHR based Senior JL F/A

he did not know Japanese much, but atleast he knew English and was European, so he qualified and flew the Europe-Japan and Australia-Japan sectors, even the Japan-India.

he now works as an F/A on BA with Eurofleet LHR, got tired of the long haul for now.



There Are Those Who Believe That There May Yet Be Other Airlines Who Even Now Fight To Survive Beyond The Heavens
User currently offlineLockheed1011 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 156 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 10132 times:

Excellent Album!

Thank you for sharing..........  Wink


User currently offlineAnthsaun From Mexico, joined Apr 2004, 544 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 9465 times:

BA serves the LHR-MEX route with mexican F/A along with British F/A


Over 80 years in business say a lot about success
User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8414 times:

Quoting Malaysia (Reply 3):
My best friend was a LHR based Senior JL F/A

he did not know Japanese much, but atleast he knew English and was European, so he qualified and flew the Europe-Japan and Australia-Japan sectors, even the Japan-India.


Quoting Anthsaun (Reply 5):
BA serves the LHR-MEX route with mexican F/A along with British F/A


Is this because of language barriers?

Thanks.

Globe Trekker



The World Is A Book And Those Who Do Not Travel Read Only A Page
User currently onlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17030 posts, RR: 67
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8352 times:

Is this because of language barriers?

That's a big part of it. Also it really does enhance the customer experience to be spoken to in their own language. Smart move



"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."
User currently offlineLfutia From Netherlands, joined Dec 2002, 3339 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8345 times:

I enjoyed every picture of the KLM F/A ... i do hopefully one day I am able to work for KLM  Smile


Leo/ORD -- Groetjes uit de VS! -- Heeft u laatst nog met KLM gevlogen?
User currently offlineUafan17 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 8056 times:

wow interesting, yesterday i was flying IAD-ORD on UA and a lot of the crew members they had were based in LAX, SFO and DEN spoke many different languages which made it more interesting. BTW, UAL has a hub in NRT i believe to take care of the F/A issue.

User currently offlineCX777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 153 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7932 times:

Having flown KLM numerous times, I can see why KLM experience was always great. Its the 'spirit and enthusiasm' of such fine person that makes it all possible. Enjoyed the album. Thanks.

User currently offlineDC10GUY From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 2685 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7714 times:

Nice photo album. And a very pretty young lady too. KLM is one of the greatest airlines of all time.


Next time try the old "dirty Sanchez" She'll love it !!!
User currently offlineAirgeek12 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7610 times:

Sweet. It was great to see a F/A in work! :p thx for the link

User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 7241 times:

Actually, I'm surprised that KLM didn't crack down on this like DL did with that other blog!  Silly

But seriously, I have flown BOS-DEN and back quite a few times, and a flight attendant on board (he always seemed to be on this route) spoke Swedish. Don't know why he's on a BOS-DEN flight!



'Do we carry rich people on our flights? Yes, I flew on one this morning and I�m very rich.' - Michael O'Leary
User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26444 posts, RR: 75
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

UA actually has a LHR F/A base as well as in their hubs.


Mangeons les French fries, mais surtout pratiquons avec fierte le French kiss
User currently offlineSpeedbird2025 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 6656 times:

What a wonderful album.. Ada sure has a lot of nice colleagues  Smile
I sure do miss Amsterdam myself after looking at all those pictures. What a great city it is! Thx for sharing the album Matt.

--Nathan


User currently offlineBogota From Colombia, joined Sep 2004, 819 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6469 times:

BA has bases in all of Latinamerica, Middle East, India and parts of the Far East that I recall. I travelled once to Tokyo with BA and very big delegation from Colombia, and for our surprise we had a Colombian based cabin crew on the LHR-NRT sector.

User currently offlineUA777222 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 3348 posts, RR: 11
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 6226 times:

Quoting QuestAir (Reply 13):
Actually, I'm surprised that KLM didn't crack down on this like DL did with that other blog!


If anything I'd consider re-hiring this fa! (JK) I think this shows how great of a company KLM is. The way she speeks and the way that the crews are shown can only boost businss from KLM. It shows that they are a great respected airline that passengers and crew alike love!

Great airline!

Matt



"It wasn't raining when Noah built the ark."
User currently offlineAWspicious From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 4184 times:

Cool photo album. It's quite clear that Ada and the gang had a great time at KLM. Then again, it seems Ada always has a good time no matter where she is (I quickly skimmed through some of her other photo albums) ...Camera always at the ready to preserve the memories.
I wonder who owns that collection of airplan models. I've got the same display cabinets for my models. The add-on lights are a nice touch. It's a pity Ikea discontinued the line because I wish I could get just one more of those display units (hint hint)
Anyway, cool pics. Thanks for bringing it to our attention.

cheers


User currently offlineQqflyboy From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 2277 posts, RR: 13
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 3822 times:

American has bases in Bogota, Buenos Aires, Lima and Santiago. They are all staffed by foreign nationals, ie, they are not American citizens. They have different pay scales, different work rules and don't belong to the AA flight attendant union, APFA.


The views expressed are mine alone and do not necessarily reflect my employer’s views.
User currently offlineNWrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3706 times:

Quoting QuestAir (Reply 13):
Actually, I'm surprised that KLM didn't crack down on this like DL did with that other blog!


Makes you wonder what KLM would think of this. However, the big difference is that this F/A is no longer employed with KLM, due to her contract expiring. The DL F/A was still on active payroll.



Welcome to the back of the boat...the non-rev section
User currently offlineNYCFlyer From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1387 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3392 times:

big difference: the DL f/a was in suggestive positions in her photo album. None of this is suggestive. It's wholesome, clean fun. This shows the f/a taking pride in her work in and out of the office, and it shows the KLM staff bonding. That's good PR for an airline, kind of like the show "Airline" with WN - unlike seeing the DL f/a in a mini with lots of cleavage (not like I mind that sort of thing myself, but I'm not the CEO of DL).

User currently offlineMalaysia From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 3343 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 3353 times:

NW has NRT base, but most of its F/A on the NRT-ASia routes are hired from BKK/MNL so they can work on a very low salary and most never even see the US. (no visas) I felt bad when some of the NW F/A based in BKK, MNL were all complaining to me about how NW treats them worse and the benefits are cut down much, since they do know the real pay and salaries, the NRT/USA ones get.


There Are Those Who Believe That There May Yet Be Other Airlines Who Even Now Fight To Survive Beyond The Heavens
User currently offlineAA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 3166 times:

The reason why KLM has "local" staff, ofcourse it's because of the language barriers and knowledge of cultures.

Having a big market in South Korea, Japan and China/Hong Kong/Taiwan, it's no surprise that this is the way they work!

They dropped this service on the Indian flights, since most Indians speak English (most of them transferring in Amsterdam to either USA or Canada).

Most pursers with KLM speak French, German AND Spanish, so I guess no translators/speakers required on different routes.

Hey, maybe you guys want to check out this link. Also found it while surfing the net....

http://gawad.homeip.net/index.php


User currently offlineGlobeTrekker From Netherlands, joined Dec 2003, 851 posts, RR: 14
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3042 times:

Thanks for the cool link AA B777-200!

You should also start a sight when you start your flying carreer!

Globe Trekker



The World Is A Book And Those Who Do Not Travel Read Only A Page
User currently offlineLima From Argentina, joined May 1999, 1122 posts, RR: 14
Reply 25, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2821 times:

Not only cultural barriers, but also costs. Airlines are able to save money as normally cabin crews under temporary contracts in foreign countries cost them less, so there is certainly an economic reason also.

Countries like Australia (Qantas has foreign crews in Bangkok, Auckland), Netherlands or UK among others have enough multicultural societies as if the need to hire personnel that can speak others languages should be the sole purpose. Don't forget costs!

Lima


Top Of Page
Forum Index

This topic is archived and can not be replied to any more.

Printer friendly format

Similar topics:More similar topics...
AA Week In The Life Of AA posted Sun Oct 29 2006 01:21:45 by YYZACGUY
A Day In The Life Of PDX posted Tue Oct 24 2006 04:27:04 by KPDX
A Day In The Life Of An American B762 posted Mon Jul 31 2006 01:48:29 by ILUVAA
A Day In The Life Of Airmail posted Sat Jan 7 2006 19:57:56 by 727EMflyer
A Day In The Life Of An AC Passenger Agent posted Thu Dec 29 2005 03:09:01 by YUL2010
A Day In The Life Of A CSA posted Sat Nov 5 2005 23:23:47 by LGWspeedbird
A Day In The Life Of A Etihad F/A... posted Thu Nov 3 2005 14:53:08 by Emirates773ER
The Life Of A WN 737 posted Mon Sep 19 2005 19:39:36 by 2H4
The Day In The Life Of A Plane Photographed! posted Tue Apr 19 2005 22:43:52 by JAGflyer
Knowing The Regs Of KLM Planes Before U Fly! posted Sun Apr 17 2005 16:34:52 by CV990