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User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4575 times:

Delta/Song set to occupy first new Logan terminal built in 30 years.


http://news.bostonherald.com/localRegional/view.bg?articleid=71802

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User currently offlineAlb222 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 222 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4523 times:

Go DL.......................wonder what the future palns hold for DL at BOS? I can see a major Song expansion to protect against B6 and perhaps some Europe flights. Any ideas?

User currently offlinePadcrasher From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4500 times:

I'd would think Song goes into LAX/SFO/SEA.

This terminal will really help Delta. It is the first terminal you come to while entering the the airport and the only terminal where you can exit without having to go thru the entire loop. Perfect for Shuttle passengers.


User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8322 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 4491 times:

The local "transportation newspaper", can't recall the name, has 2 pages dedicated to the opening of the terminal. There's a quote in one of the articles that hints at the addition of International flights from BOS by Delta. That would probably be contigent on adding customs and immigration to terminal A. I suspect that at that point we'd see other SkyTeam airlines move to terminal A as well (Air France, AeroMexico, Alitalia).

User currently offlineMats From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 4440 times:

It's a shame that Terminal A is ready when Delta has fallen upon hard times. I somehow doubt that Delta will add any destinations from Boston. They've had failed attempts at serving Frankfurt and London/Gatwick. I don't think that plans to serve Rome ever came to fruition.

It might be feasible, however, for all of the SkyTeam partners to operate out of Terminal A. Aeromexico, Air France, Alitalia, Continental, Delta, and Northwest all serve Boston. That would bring transoceanic service to Amsterdam, Mexico City, and Paris/Charles de Gaulle. Korean Air no longer serves Boston but they might be tempted to return.

The addition of FIS services would make Boston an easier connection point. Right now, international arrivals in Boston are at the remote Terminal E, which can be a pain--especially to Terminal A.

But I don't know if Delta and its SkyTeam partners care to make Boston a "hub," so to speak. The weather is not favorable and the airport can be congested. It might be just as easy to leave Boston available for O&D traffic, obviating the immediate need to consolidate operations to a single terminal.


User currently offlineFlyPNS1 From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 6606 posts, RR: 24
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4391 times:

It'll be interesting to see if DL does anything with BOS in the next year.

BOS was largely left out of the route restructuring last month. While other focus cities gained quite a few new flights, BOS got almost nothing. Plus, BOS gained nothing in the recently announced Song expansion.

I think DL's going to have their hands full trying to slug it out with JBLU in both JFK and BOS.


User currently offlineBHMNONREV From Australia, joined Aug 2003, 1374 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4376 times:

I was under the impression that Massport was adamant about all international flights arrive at "E", since they socked a good bit of change into the terminal renovations.

If Delta can get them to alter their thinking, DL and SkyTeam could really open up BOS....


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8898 posts, RR: 12
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4373 times:

Of course, I miss the opening by 2 days (I'm flying out the 14th to GSO). I wouldn't be shocked if my father was on the 3rd flight out of the terminal (the 0600 to LGA; only the 0550 to CVG and the 0535 to DCA leave before that)...

Jeff


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6752 posts, RR: 32
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4305 times:

Not a day too soon! While I like the open departures lobby of Terminal C, the concourses and security checkpoints are just too small for the amount of traffic that Delta, Continental, and United (not to mention Air Canada, Midwest, and Cape Air) are putting through there. Thank goodness the international departures on AF moved to Terminal E because those just made things even worse! I can remember one afternoon when the security line for the DL/CO concourse stretched almost to the control tower.

I've got a flight out of Terminal C on CO on March 17, so it will be a bit weird to see all of Delta's areas completely empty there.


User currently offlineKBOS From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 429 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4283 times:

When Terminal E opened, they brought in the Concorde to be it's first visitor.
Do they have anything special planned for Terminal A?


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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7519 posts, RR: 24
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4278 times:

Quoting ScottB (Reply 8):
I've got a flight out of Terminal C on CO on March 17, so it will be a bit weird to see all of Delta's areas completely empty there.


Somehow, I don't think that area will stay empty for long. B6 will probably move into that area shortly DL/Song move to A.



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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6752 posts, RR: 32
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 10):
Somehow, I don't think that area will stay empty for long.


Oh, I realize that. However, I doubt that jetBlue will have moved its operations into Terminal C the day after Delta begins operations in the new Terminal A. I'm still scratching my head as to which "eleven" gates jetBlue will be taking since I'm pretty sure Delta only has ten, spread out across all three concourses (20, 21, 26, 28, 29, 31, 34, 36, 41, 42).


User currently offlineDeltAirlines From United States of America, joined May 1999, 8898 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4252 times:

I think JetBlue has its eyes set on the Continental gates...if they move from C to A (which is quite possible), then I'm sure B6 would snatch up those gates. There are 11 gates in the current DL/CO pier, so I'm assuming B6 takes over this entire pier, leaving 41/42 open to a new carrier (I'm assuming Cape Air might take one of these), and 20/21 would revert back to UA/AC.

Jeff


User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6752 posts, RR: 32
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4234 times:

I suppose the big question mark is where CO is going to go long-term. If I'm not mistaken, Delta is more or less borrowing C20 and C21 from United. I doubt Continental wants to split operations between two of the concourses (any more than jetBlue does), and there's been no news of CO moving into A with Delta.

Of course, jetBlue is going to start with 3 or 4 gates in C and add one every six months for a few years, so there's time for everything to get sorted out.


User currently offline727stretch From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4188 times:

The last I heard as to Terminal C gate assigments after DL's moves was this...
-CO will use C25, C27, C40, C41.
-B6 will use C28, C36, C34, C32, C29, C31, C33
-YX will use C26, sub-leased from B6/Massport (until B6 needs the add'l capacity, then YX will relocate again)
-UA will continue to use C11, C15, C16, C17, C18, C19, and will renovate C20 and C21 from the Song style back to UA specs
-AC remains at C12 & C14
-Not sure where 9K will operate from with their Cessnas but would not surprise me if they come over to UA's side somewhere with a remote operation at least for the time being.

Also I have heard that
-NW will move to the original B6 gates in Terminal E (E1D, E1E) to make room in the IAB area of E for add'l international capacity. However, not sure if this is still the case.

If Virgin America starts BOS service soon after they commence, I wonder where they would be put.


User currently offlineBOSugaDL From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4157 times:

What about B1,2,3: the DL Shuttle gates? Who will those go to?

and also, will ATA and HP stay in B? It would seem like AA would want there side of B all to themselves.


User currently offlineSRQCrosscheck From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 211 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4127 times:

Quoting BOSugaDL (Reply 15):
What about B1,2,3: the DL Shuttle gates? Who will those go to?


Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't these belong to US?


User currently offline767ALLTHEWAY From United States of America, joined Nov 1999, 659 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 4087 times:

SRQ,
The shuttle had been operating out of those gates in Terminal B.



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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4059 times:



Quoting KBOS (Reply 9):
Do they have anything special planned for Terminal A?

The only special plane would likely be the 762 "Spirit of Delta", although a 777 would also make a nice addition. I just hope that DL makes good use of the new terminal. They used to have plans for service to CDG, FRA, DUB, SNN, LGW, JAX, LAX, etc. They shouldn't spend $400 million for nothing.


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4034 times:



Quoting SRQCrosscheck (Reply 16):
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't these belong to US?

Yes DL leased them from US when Terminal A, where DL Shuttle was originally located, was closed for renovation.



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User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 4003 times:

I know this sounds naive, but did DL pay at all for this terminal? I'm really not sure.


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User currently offlineDAL767400ER From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 3987 times:



Quoting QuestAir (Reply 20):
I know this sounds naive, but did DL pay at all for this terminal? I'm really not sure.

Dl has invested at least $400 million into this new facility (those were the costs estimated when construction first started; might have increased over the years).


User currently offlineZone1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1035 posts, RR: 7
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 3961 times:

I can't wait to see the new terminal in June when I come to Boston for my summer internship. I'm trying to get my dad to come with me, so he can bring me into the new Crown Room!


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User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6752 posts, RR: 32
Reply 23, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3729 times:

Digging this topic out, delta.com is now showing some flights to and from BOS tomorrow as departing and arriving from gates in Terminal A, not Terminal C. The Shuttle flights are still appearing to be at Terminal B, but it's possible that the information for those flights may not have yet been updated. It also appears that the gate numbers no longer hyperlink to the now-inaccurate BOS terminal map.

User currently offline727Stretch From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 65 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 3714 times:

I have serious doubts that DL will enter any LAX/transcon route out of BOS. They couldn't make LAX and LGW work before, so why now? Plans for FCO were dropped also. They have more gates than they need in Terminal A for their current schedule also. No other carrier at BOS wants to move to Terminal A due to the high rent fees per square foot (CO, NW). I was told it was 50% more than the other older terminals. Nonetheless, Terminal A is a phenomenal step forward for Logan and Delta- it's a great space. Congrats to them for making it work.

25 ChrisNH : I agree with this, and it IS a shame. 'Suppose they gave a party and no one came' is what this feels like. The terminal was conceived and started pre
26 DAL767400ER : LGW didn't work because DL couldn't get sufficient O&D traffic nor connection traffic. The latter is likely to increase once DL opens new routes from
27 JGPH1A : While Massport maintain their insistence that all international arrivals in BOS are handled by Terminal E, there is no way BOS can pick up transit pa
28 DAL767400ER : No doubt about that, but unfortunately Massport has been acting like a stubborn donkey when it comes to FIS in other terminals. It would make it all
29 Cloudboy : It was in the paper todfay that they are opening up A tomorrow. I don't know if they have any big celebrations planned, if anything it seems that mass
30 Post contains links and images DAL767400ER : The opening is today. This link has an answer to your complaints : http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/050316/clw043_3.html
31 Post contains links and images ScottB : Boston Globe coverage of the opening of Terminal A: Delta lands at Terminal A A model of post-9/11 security And here's the map from delta.com
32 Post contains images Mikey711MN : More eye candy...
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