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User currently offlineUsair330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 824 posts, RR: 1
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2476 times:

Hey Ima be flying to PNS this Sunday and would like to take my scanner with me....It's a Maycom AR-108. Is it legal to take the scanner on the flight with you and listen?

Thanx

Sorry if this question has been asked before. I did a search and couldn't find anything.

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User currently offlineKDTWFlyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2450 times:

As far as I know it is. I would be discrete using it though. I used my Radio Shack on a NW B744 from DTW-AMS and it was sweet! I heard Cleveland ARTCC give a turn command and heard it acknowledged by the crew and sure enough, about a second and a half later we commenced the turn!


NW B744 B742 B753 B752 A333 A332 A320 A319 DC10 DC9 ARJ CRJ S340
User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2444 times:

I'm pretty sure you can bring it with you, as I have never had any problems with it. As for listening in flight, not sure, but I do it sometimes, also without a problem. Just make sure to know the scanner laws of the place you are traveling before you go, especially places overseas. Some states have pretty strict laws also.

Harry



Why grab a Heine when you can grab a Busch?
User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2428 times:

US airlines prohibit the use of radios on the aircraft during flight....this is not a good idea. If you bring it with you leave it off during flight.


Beleive me I would love to bring one on the plane so I knew what was going on more quickly during the flight.


User currently offlineJonty From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 226 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2418 times:

why are you not allowed to use them inflight 1MillionFlyer?

User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 2411 times:

radios (scanners) absolutley can interfere with navigation (ILS/LOC/VOR) and communication channels, using a GPS or a cell phone is fine, but radios are a no-no

User currently offlineSkywatch From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 923 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2367 times:

How could a scanner interfere if you are picking up the same frequencies? I have wondered over whether you could take scanners onto commercial flights or not, and I could not see a reason why you could not, unless they think you can hide a bomb in the battery compartment or something!


------Forever Watchin' The Sky------
User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2344 times:

anything that is receiving the spectrum of bandwidth of the navigation and communications radios can interfere with reception.

they are also banned for use on US aircraft per "FAR 91.21"

except:
Except as provided in paragraph (b) of this section, no person may operate, nor may any operator or pilot in command of an aircraft allow the operation of, any portable electronic device on any of the following U.S.-registered civil aircraft:

(1) Aircraft operated by a holder of an air carrier operating certificate or an operating certificate; or
(2) Any other aircraft while it is operated under IFR.
(b) Paragraph (a) of this section does not apply to--
(1)Portable voice recorders;
(2)Hearing aids;
(3)Heart pacemakers;
(4)Electric shavers; or
(5)Any other portable electronic device that the operator of the aircraft has determined will not cause interference with the navigation or communication system of the aircraft on which it is to be used.
(c) In the case of an aircraft operated by the holder of an air carrier operating certificate or an operating certificate, the determination required by paragraph (b)(5) of this section shall be made by that operator of the aircraft on which the particular device is to be used. In the case of other aircraft, the determination may be made by the pilot in command or other operator of the aircraft.


this is a great article on the topic

http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de/publ...DOCS/Research/Rvs/Article/EMI.html

http://www.rvs.uni-bielefeld.de/publ...DOCS/Research/Rvs/Article/EMI.html

[Edited 2005-03-09 23:00:09]

User currently offlineBritPilot777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 1075 posts, RR: 2
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Just go United and use Channel 9  Silly

Moheet  Cool



Forever Flight
User currently offlineEMBQA From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 9364 posts, RR: 11
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2307 times:

So, after reading the FAR's the answer is No. Keep in mind that at the end of the passanger breifing is the standard statement "...a complete list of approved eletronic devices can be found in the back of your in-flight magazine found in the seat pocket in front of you..."


"It's not the size of the dog in the fight, but the size of the fight in the dog"
User currently offlineVenuscat2 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 478 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2304 times:

Quoting KDTWFlyer (Reply 1):
. I used my Radio Shack on a NW B744 from DTW-AMS and it was sweet!


You're pretty lucky that nobody saw it....and that you didn't cause any serious problem.. You could get in BIG trouble for operating a scanner onboard.


User currently offlineNeilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2249 times:



Quoting Venuscat2 (Reply 10):
You could get in BIG trouble for operating a scanner onboard.

I don't think you would get in BIG trouble. The FA most likely would ask you to turn it off. But this has been discussed many many times.

I'm not sure what you searched but a simple "Scanner onboard" you come up with tons of results....

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...er+onboard&search_order=idorder=id


User currently offlineFlySC From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2231 times:

I have taken a scanner on commerical flights several times. They have never said anything to me about it at securtiy. I have yet to actually use it in flight though. It is illegal to use them in flight but as you can see some people are able to get away with it. I didn't feel like risking it and usually entertain myself by looking out the window.
Fly Safely,
Jason D.



I do not fail!!! I succede at finding what does not work!!!
User currently offlineLincoln From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 3887 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2148 times:

Quoting Neilalp (Reply 11):
I don't think you would get in BIG trouble. The FA most likely would ask you to turn it off.


Pre 9/11 I would agree with you whole heartedly -- likely: the FA would request you discontinue use and if you didn't comply the police may or may not be waiting for you when you landed (and you may or may not land at the airport you had planned on landing at), depending on the mood of the FA.

Post 9/11 with everyone so anxious about terrorists I think more than a few pax may consider it highly suspicious and possibly take matters in to their own hands if they saw someone trying to use a scanner -- especially after the "no radios or cellphones" annoucement during the safety briefing. The police would probably be waiting for you when you landed.

If you do choose to use it in flight (I strongly suggest that you not), make sure you are extremely discrete about it, and of course use an earphoneSmile. Best cause of action, especially if you're not sure if the carrier allows or disallows the use is just talk to the FA when your boarding...worst they can say is "No", and this would make you a heck of a lot less suspicious.

As others have said, in general if you're told that you aren't alowed to do something on an airplane, there is probably a good reason for it (in this case interference with communication and navigation systems) and you probably shouldn't do it even if you don't get cought.

Lincoln

[Edited 2005-03-10 04:28:16]


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User currently offlineFLY2HMO From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2138 times:

Been there, done that. Just keep a low profile and you should be good.  mischievous 

User currently offline1MillionFlyer From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2127 times:



Quoting FLY2HMO (Reply 14):
Been there, done that. Just keep a low profile and you should be good

I don't mean to be negative, but isn't it just a little selfish to potentially jeoporidize the aircraft so you can listen to ATC?


User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 2125 times:

Although others have posted that they have "gotten away with it" another factor that you may want to consider is your desired future career (as mentioned in your profile) in law enforcement.

On the chance (however remote) that you get caught/arrested/charged or whatever, wouldn't a record preclude your being a police officer? Is it worth the risk, just to listen to a scanner?



[Edited 2005-03-10 04:22:44]

User currently offlineUSAir330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 824 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2063 times:

After reading all your comments (especially OPNLguy) I think that I'll take it with me but ask the flight attendant if it would be ok if I use it .... If she says no... than I will definitely put it away and not even think about taking out....

Thanks for the help guys!!! ... Only at Airliners.net  smirk 


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