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AeroMexico's Success On MEX-BOS Flights?  
User currently offlineClrd4t8koff From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 2556 times:

I know when this route first started I read a lot on how light the loads were. So I was wondering how this route was doing now? Is it a high yielding route for them? If I recall it's 1x daily ?? I could be wrong. Do they ever plan to go to 2x daily or send in a 757?

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User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2552 times:

It is a once daily service with 73W. I don't think AM has any plans to start a second flight or to send a larger airplane (the 57's are more necessary for the flights to JFK and LAX because they are real moneymakers, and to LIM because of range issues). I don't think BOS is a high-yielding market for AM because it is possible to get very interesting fares all the time. As to whether loads are better now, I really don't know but I hope they are.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineDCAYOW From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 605 posts, RR: 3
Reply 2, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2541 times:

The loads for year ending August 2004 were 52.47% with a Boeing 73G. The route is not performing/developing the way Aeromexico thought or hoped. Their website has been replete with Boston specials as of late.

I would expect this aircraft to be redeployed to other opportunities and it might be the aircraft they intend to start IAD with.



Retorne ao céu...
User currently offlineClrd4t8koff From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2506 times:

I really wonder why it performs that low. Outside of Europe, does Boston really stand a chance to support non-stop int'l flights to South/Latin America and Asia? Maybe the market just isn't there.

User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 4, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 2498 times:

It may be the schedules of the flights. It may also be that leisure pax/students are not high-yielding enough.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6826 posts, RR: 32
Reply 5, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 2468 times:

Well, I suspect that this route has to make it almost entirely on O&D traffic, and the ties between New England and Mexico aren't especially strong. If you're traveling between Boston and anywhere north or east of MEX, it probably makes more sense to connect at IAH, MIA, DFW, ATL, CLT, etc.

User currently offlineAirbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8658 posts, RR: 10
Reply 6, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 2309 times:

Hispanics are the largest non-American group of people in New England. Unfortunatelly I suspect most can't afford to fly or are afraid to not be allowed back into the country. As countries go, there aren't that many Mexicans in the Boston area. Most hispanics come from Central America/Caribbean, mainly El Salvador and Dominican Republic.

The only country in South/Central America that may be able to support non-stop service from Boston is Brazil. Varig was about to start service to Boston pre-9/11. I'm kinda surprised no one offers BOS-Brazil non-stop service given the number of Brazilians in the area. Brazilian immigrants tend to be a bit more affluent than the rest of the Central/South American immigrants too.

As for Asia we do have a very large presence of Chinese and Southeast Asians but probably not large enough to fill a widebody aircraft on a daily basis. The short lived Korean flight was a stop-over on the way from JFK to pick up seafood more than passengers. Coincidentally, Korean's Cargo website still lists BOS as a destination but I believe that is in error.

The closest we may get to Asia from BOS, in my opinion, would be Russia. We have a huge amount of Russians in the Boston area, and very rich ones too. I think a non-stop to Moscow could do very well here. But that is Europe, so we're back where we started  Smile


User currently offlineBritmex From Mexico, joined Nov 2000, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2266 times:

hello:

As an Aeromexico FA I know that route quite well. Although ethnic traffic may be important in other routes, BOS was not added for this reason. The student and business traffic is still considered important and the route is planned to be kept since AM wants to increase its presence in the North American market as its future strategy . However it is likely that the timings may be changed to make this flight more suitable for connections.

britmex

BTW I really LOVE the BOS layover...more than 24hrs in such a wonderful place



Aeromexico, la linea aerea que va para arriba
User currently offlineEddieDude From Mexico, joined Nov 2003, 7633 posts, RR: 42
Reply 8, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2241 times:

Sorry that this is unrelated. Anybody flying MEX-DFW tonight with AM (flight 0608) or DFW-MEX on Sunday afternoon (flight 0605)? If so, e-mail me through my profile.


Next flights: MEX-GRU (AM 77E), GRU-GIG (JJ A320), SDU-CGH (G3 73H), GRU-MEX (JJ A332).
User currently offlineLH423 From Canada, joined Jul 1999, 6501 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (9 years 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2196 times:



Quoting Airbazar (Reply 6):
The closest we may get to Asia from BOS, in my opinion, would be Russia. We have a huge amount of Russians in the Boston area, and very rich ones too. I think a non-stop to Moscow could do very well here. But that is Europe, so we're back where we started

True, but a very large portion of the Russians in Boston are Jews who escaped from the Soviet Union and don't have very fond memories of Russia. I'm more suprised as to why El Al haven't returned. The Jewish community in New England is one of the most affluent and well-travelled. Maybe because the origins of the Jews in Boston are spread out it doesn't make much sense, but many, at one point or an other, travel to Israel.

While, I think TACA does better on their route to SAL, I've noticed that many days AM has decent loads in their business class cabin (judging by Amadeus availability). They've been marketing the flight a lot more now lately. Although more as a way to get people to the sunspots of Mexico and not so much for Mexico City. Hopefully AM will stay. It's nice having them!  Smile

LH423



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