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User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 860 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

Are there any rules on taking photos from the tarmac when walking on the tarmac to your plane? I have flown numerous props and CRJs without a jetway which require walking on the tarmac.

I snapped a photo heading onto a CRJ on SkyWest for a flight to SLC from YVR. I was once warned in CVG. Are there any formal rules or is it just airline by airline?

I have taken several pics inside airports, too, and never had anyone say anything. You can visit my website (see profile for address) to view if interested.

Any help would be appreciated.

DAN

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User currently offlineTomys From Czech Republic, joined Mar 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6115 times:

Strange, by who you have been warned? I believe somebody who thinks he is important more than he actually is... as is often the case.

User currently offlineJetpixx From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 860 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6097 times:

It was a member of the ground crew at CVG working for Comair before I boarded a flight to CAK on one of their CRJs....you are probably right! However, I am not sure if there are rules, regulations, etc. and just want to make sure before the next time I have the opportunity. No one said anything to me in ATL or YVR when I did it, nor when I did it at CAK.

User currently offlineFoxecho From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 747 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6077 times:

Just some Comair employee on his high horse

Andrew



..uh, we'll need that to live......
User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 878 posts, RR: 5
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6054 times:

There could have been any number of reasons why he stopped you. Unlike others, don't just assume that he was trying to be 'more important' than he is. Also different airports have different rules.

User currently offlineORDflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 511 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 6047 times:

I've never heard of any specific rules against taking pictures while walking to your plane...seems like that may have been an isolated incident hopefully. Maybe he was just in a hurry to get the plane loaded or something. As long as you are walking as you take the pictures and not holding up the line or something there shouldn't be anything wrong with taking pictures there.

User currently offlineTWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3128 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5991 times:

Well in Argentina i know you cannot... in Trelew i was walking to our AR 737-200 to Buenos Aires AEP, stopped to take a picture and a guard with a machine gun suggested i put away the camera and move on... Same thing in Tanzania getting on an Air Kenya DeHavillian DHC-6 at JRO to Nairobi-Wilson...

TWA902



life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
User currently offlinePogo From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5958 times:

I do not see why there should be a problem as long as you are taking a photo from where you are boarding. I can understand them having a problem if you were to start wandering around the tarmac.
If in doubt ask the airline staff and/or the ground crew.



When in doubt give it a clout
User currently offlineCosmicCruiser From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 2255 posts, RR: 15
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5887 times:

Quoting Pogo (Reply 7):
I do not see why there should be a problem as long as you are taking a photo from where you are boarding. I can understand them having a problem if you were to start wandering around the tarmac.



It doesn't matter what seems logical, some places for what ever don't allow/want it. I was just in Almaty(Alma Aty) Kz. and you could not take pictures IN the terminal, ON the ramp or anywhere else. All my pictures were made once I was on the plane.


User currently offlinePDXtriple7 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 695 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5848 times:

On the note of taking photos in places, are there any problems in planes when taking full cabin shots in flight? Like should I ask a flight attendent for permission, or should I be fine as long as I'm not interfering?

User currently offlinePogo From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 355 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5758 times:

Quoting PDXtriple7 (Reply 9):
should I ask a flight attendent for permission

Like I said before, if in doubt ask, if you are polite to them they will be polite back, ask if you can photograph the cockpit? the worst thing they can do is say no.



When in doubt give it a clout
User currently offlineCdeanda From Mexico, joined Feb 2001, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5742 times:

In January 2003 I was about to board my AM flight back to Mexico from Paris CDG. We had to exit one of the gates, walk down some stairs and then take a bus that would take us to the AM 767. So, while walking down the stairs outside of the gate, I saw an AF Concorde being pushed back and I quickly took my camera but at the same time some security guy saw me and told me not to take any picture...that was the first only time I was so close to an "active" Concorde. Later that year I was able to take a picture of a Concorde but parked at Le Bourget Air Show just after they were grounded. Not the same feeling.  Sad

Also, In all mexican airports is strictly prohibited to take any picture of the planes from inside the terminal, from the apron or from any part...don't ask me why because I have been trying to find the legal reason, but apparently only the police officers know  Yeah sure


User currently offlineACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 7642 posts, RR: 35
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5724 times:

I agree, if in doubt ask. The only question I have though is why do some people consider taking pics of airplanes a security threat? I was living in Germany at the time of 9/11 and for the months after everytime I bought an aviation related magazine I got some pretty interesting looks and questions asked like "what my interest is in this subject?"

Can someone please explain to me why someone could think that taking pics of an aviation, especially from inside an airport is deemed "suspicious and a security threat"?



A Grumpy German Is A Sauerkraut
User currently offlineCRJ200Mechanic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5716 times:

Some officals view it as a threat because you might be scoping out the layout of the terminal and seeing what kind of activity is going on. It can give you an idea of how to get around security.


Always remember the responsibilies you hold with an A&P license
User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 878 posts, RR: 5
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5716 times:

Quoting ACDC8 (Reply 12):
Can someone please explain to me why someone could think that taking pics of an aviation, especially from inside an airport is deemed "suspicious and a security threat"?

It's not so much about preventing people from taking pictures of planes, but rather pictures of the airport operations.


User currently offlineCRJ200Mechanic From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 204 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5707 times:

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 14):
but rather pictures of the airport operations

Thats what I was trying to say  banghead 



Always remember the responsibilies you hold with an A&P license
User currently offlineAR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5543 times:

Well,some two weeks ago I was in BRC and right after we left the airplane, an AR MD 80, I started taking pictures.I took as many as I wanted and nobody told me anything.So I went inside the terminal to reach my friends that were waiting for me, and found them waiting fir the luggage, so I decided to go back and take some more pictures.Right after that an officer or wathever came over to me and told me that I wasn't allowed to do that.So my guess is that as long as you snap while you leave the ac even if it takes you half on hour, is ok.But you can't specially go to the tarmac to snap.Just don't find any logic reason for this.

Mike.



They don't call us Continental for nothing.
User currently offlineSpeedbird2155 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 878 posts, RR: 5
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 5522 times:

Quoting AR1300 (Reply 16):
So my guess is that as long as you snap while you leave the ac even if it takes you half on hour, is ok

Your guess would be wrong....no airport worker should allow passengers to stand around taking pictures on the tarmac for an extended period. If you manage to get a few quick pics....which some airports will allow...then fine. However the tarmac can be a dangerous place and unless passengers are boarding or deboarding an aircraft, which means just a brief period on the tarmac, then they should not be out there.

My guess would be that what the security officer was trying to tell you was that you weren't allowed to go back out on the tarmac, if as your post suggests, that is what you were attempting to do.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5391 times:

Out here its clear.
No pics on Tarmac.
Only pics from Inside Terminal Building.
And from inside the Aircraft by Scheduled pax during T/O,Cruise,Ldg.Except at defense Airfields.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlinePilottim747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 1607 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 5383 times:

Quoting Speedbird2155 (Reply 17):
the tarmac can be a dangerous place and unless passengers are boarding or deboarding an aircraft, which means just a brief period on the tarmac, then they should not be out there.

I think thats how most ramp employees feel. Getting off on the UA Express ramp in ORD they like to keep people moving to the terminal. Besides being dangerous, the tarmac is a secure area. Ramp employees want to keep you moving to the terminal (or to the aircraft) because the ramp really isnt a place for passengers anymore.

If you ask, however, you'll sometimes find that they dont care if you take a quick shot. If you're going to take a photo I think they just like to know what is going on.

pilottim747



Aviation Photographers & Enthusiasts--Coordinate your life.
User currently offlineAlitaliaMD11 From Spain, joined Dec 2003, 4068 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 5325 times:

At MAD I board a lot of planes useing the tarmac. I have never been told not to take photos. People see my taking photos and smile. I have even layed down on the tarmac and taken photos! On saturday I am flying MAD-BCN-Nice and I think on all of those flights I will be boarding and deplaneing on the tarmac. I have never flown into BCN or Nice and look forward to seeing what I can take photos of!


No Vueling No Party
User currently offlineM404 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2227 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 5233 times:
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We've had several threads mentioning A.netters questioned about cameras they were using both inflight and on the ground in the US. I've asked local airport police and TSA officials if they had specific rules against it. No one would show me any nor quote from one. One cop I've known for years said as much as their is no hard and fast rule. It's just that "suspicious behavior can be cause for questioning". Now I interpret that as meaning it may depend on whom is doing what and how "suspicious" is determined. Would a dark and swarthy photographer be questioned before a pale skinned blond? Possibly. Is it ambiguous on purpose? Of course.

This is not saying to do anything anywhere but in US but next time it happens to you and you have some spare time ask the questioner to show you specifically what it is your doing wrong and quote the rule you are breaking. Especially some "sky marshall" giving you a hard time about inflight photos. Bare in mind I've had film confiscated in Cambodia for shooting an anthill near an airport, Syria, India, Iran for photographing a guard photographing me. Rwanda and Uganda for having a camera, but in the US or Russia, never a problem. Just ask them what your doing wrong and to prove it.



Less sarcasm and more thought equal better understanding
User currently offlineUal777contrail From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 5147 times:

In COS folks like to snap shots of Pikes Peak and such, props and CRJ's alike not using Jetways, yes you can take shots.

As far as in the airport? I was in LAX changing a disc in my digital camera and a Police Officer came up and said " you don't plan on taking pictures in here do you?" I said no, he said good, it wasn't allowed.

UAL 777 CONTRAIL


User currently offlineMika From Sweden, joined Jul 2000, 2881 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 5010 times:

I was just in Almaty(Alma Aty) Kz. and you could not take pictures IN the terminal, ON the ramp or anywhere else. All my pictures were made once I was on the plane.


Sorry i just couldnt resist posting this one, i took it in December last year when i departed Almaty. Big grin

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v111/Mika83/100_1690s.jpg


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