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757 Winglets = New Trend?  
User currently offlineN276AASTT From US Virgin Islands, joined Jan 2004, 620 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2858 times:

Since Continental was the first to start retrofitting their aircraft with the new feature, I was wondering if there were any other airlines expressing interest in doing the same? American and Delta both have huge fleets of 757's and could benefit from the savings and performance associated with them. Any thoughts?

PS: I did a search and could not find an answer to my question.


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User currently offlineMD-90 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 8508 posts, RR: 12
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2837 times:

If it works for the 757 planform, why not the 767?

User currently offlineFunflyer From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2831 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
why not the 767?

Are the 767's going to be phased out with the arrival of the 7E7?



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User currently offlineNewark777 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 9348 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 2810 times:

Quoting Funflyer (Reply 2):
Are the 767's going to be phased out with the arrival of the 7E7?

The 787 isn't coming out for a while, though, and the 767's won't be phased out immediately. If there is enough interest in 767 winglets, I'm sure they will look into them sometime in the future.

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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2961 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 2729 times:

757 & 767 will not be disappearing from the skies anytime soon. Airlines and manufacturers will look into making existing machines more efficient with 'wingleting' a much easier task than say re-engining.

CO happens to use its 757 on the longest sectors, thus it took to launch the 757-winglet program. Air Canada is a carrier that also stretches the 767 to the limits and thus wants to squeeze a little more out of the airframe.

The 767 winglet, depending on the cost/efficiency improvement factors, will get attention from 767 operators throughout the world, particularly US carriers since they have the most numerous fleet numbers and most cannot undertake in fleet replacement investments.


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26534 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 2646 times:

Quoting MD-90 (Reply 1):
If it works for the 757 planform, why not the 767?

Well, they do have different wings. Still, APB has a winglet program for the 767 but have not found takers yet. AC is a likely candidate, though they want Boeing or Airbus to pay for the winglets.

Quoting Funflyer (Reply 2):
Are the 767's going to be phased out with the arrival of the 7E7?

With nearly 1000 built and very few retired (many going to second tier users) and some very young examples out there, the 767 is not going anywhere for a while. The 787, which wont come for more than 2 years now, will take its place at the head of that size of aircraft, but the 767 will still be of use to many operators, particularly if winglets make it even more efficient



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User currently offlineEmrecan From Turkey, joined Feb 2000, 940 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2479 times:

It doesn`t look so nice in my opinion.
In how many years the winglets will over their costs?


User currently offlineBoeing Nut From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 2430 times:

I'm going to bet that the next serious interest for winglets on the 757 will be freighter carriers. The winglets do add capacity increase capabilites.

User currently offlineCaribb From Canada, joined Nov 1999, 1637 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 2248 times:

Air Canada has mentioned it wants to install winglets on it's 767s. I'll bet though many carriers will refit their 757s with them if it is cost effective for them to do it. Hopefully many 767s as well.

User currently offlineSrbmod From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2054 times:

If the price of oil keeps going up, airlines will look to ways to save on their fuel costs. While the inital investment per a/c is in the millions of dollars, the fuel savings in the long term make it a good investment.

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