BA747400 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 427 posts, RR: 3 Posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3619 times:
Hey, I was just messing around with flight tracker and found this:
BAW294:
City: Houston Bush, TX (IAH) to Chicago-Ohare, IL (ORD)
Scheduled: Mar 12 - 5:35pm arrival Mar 12 - 7:55pm
Actual: Mar 12 - Not Available Mar 12 - 11:00am*
Connecting to
City: Chicago-Ohare, IL (ORD) London Heathrow, UK (LHR)
Scheduled: Mar 12 - 9:20pm Mar 13 - 11:00am
Actual: Mar 12 - 9:20pm* Mar 13 - Contact Airline
What is this all about? Is it a codeshare with AA perhaps? I didn't know AA flew a 777 from IAH to ORD.
Perhaps someone here can shine some light on this....
Luv767s From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 265 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3595 times:
I'm sure someone will know better than I, but from what I understand, DFW is one of the cities that cannot have service to LHR or can only have service to LGW. So that plane actually serves DFW-LHR, but stops at ORD first. And it's on a BA plane, not AA.
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Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 3, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3575 times:
Luv, we're talking about IAH not DFW here, but your explanation is correct nonetheless.
The plane routes IAH-ORD-LHR to connect oil executives onward to LHR only flights.
TWA902fly From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 3048 posts, RR: 4 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3576 times:
Yeah if youve ever been to ORD T5 arrivals you see signs for BA to Houston... thats because since BA clears customs in Chicago and continues to Houston... Houston cannot have LHR service since both BA and CO operate to LGW... mostly CO cannot fly to LHR, so BA has to stick with LGW, however as far as i know the largest users of the BA IAH-ORD-LHR flight are people in the oil industry connecting to Lagos and beyond... i dont know how this route will keep up once CO makes it possible to fly IAH-EWR-LOS
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BA747400 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 427 posts, RR: 3 Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3561 times:
Thank guys.
Wow, i never knew we had a domestic BA 777 flight! Sweet!
Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 6, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3549 times:
Well, you can't board it in ORD and fly it to IAH, or vice versa.
Airfinair From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 650 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3520 times:
BA has been flying this route for a while. BA 295 arrives ORD from LHR around 11:30am every day, always a 777. Then, its a continuation from ORD, as BA 295 flies ORD-IAH, departing around 1:30pm-ish. (There are two other BA LHR-ORD flights per day, BA 297 & BA 299, both currently 777's. 744's are used, I think on 297, during peak seasons.)
AA has a two or three(?) flights ORD-LHR on 777's throughout the day. At least one AA 777 flies DFW-ORD for connections, besides all the other numourous AA DFW-ORD flights.
These are the threads I found after a quick search. Hope it helps!
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3509 times:
As Gigneli correctly stated this is not a domestic flight. As IAH is not a part of the Bermuda II agreement, no carriers are not allowed a N/S flight to LHR from IAH. When BA statred IAH/LHR flights some years back the original routing was via IAD and shortly after was switched to ORD. Back in the 80s, PA had a similar flight operating IAH/JFK/LHR utilizing a 741, in addition to their L105 N/S service to LGW.
MAH4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31117 posts, RR: 74 Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3506 times:
Quoting Airfinair (Reply 7):
AA has a two or three(?) flights ORD-LHR on 777's throughout the day. At least one AA 777 flies DFW-ORD for connections, besides all the other numourous AA DFW-ORD flights.
AA flies ORD-LHR 4x daily during the winter, 5x during the summer. AA 66/67 is the flight that goes DFW-ORD-LHR.
N1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 25852 posts, RR: 79 Reply 10, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 3469 times:
Quoting Thomasphoto60 (Reply 8): As IAH is not a part of the Bermuda II agreement, no carriers are not allowed a N/S flight to LHR from IAH.
That would mean every carrier is allowed to fly LHR-IAH (no carriers are not allowed). Technically, if there was no other carrier on the route (CO), then BA could fly to LHR even though it is not a Heathrow gateway airport. This is why PHX is able to have LHR service.
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Gigneil From United States of America, joined Nov 2002, 16215 posts, RR: 88 Reply 11, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3419 times:
Its not quite that simple, but its clear that Houston can support the passenger traffic necessary to meet the requirements for BA to fly LHR.
Thomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3723 posts, RR: 25 Reply 12, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3371 times:
Point taken, N1120A. I have heard this argument for many years and perhaps you are correct. If IAH were in a similar position to that of PHX and no carrier were operating a Houston-London flight, I suppose a N/S flight to LHR would be possible.
That said I'll defer to those that are far more familiar to B2 to comment further. As Gineil said Houston can definetly support this service and with BA adding another flight April 4th per the IAH Spotters Club's home page http://groups.yahoo.com/group/iahspottersclub/ making for a total of 20x weekly flights via BA, it would seem that BA is doing very well in this market.
Daron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3310 times:
This makes sense, and answers the question I had when I was flying out of ORD and saw a BA T7 take off at around mid day, much too early for their evening departures to LHR.
COSPN From Northern Mariana Islands, joined Oct 2001, 1473 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3214 times:
Part of SIlly Bermuda II Soon to be scapped by EU...
BA and fly to LHR unless the other carrier does so you have PHX-LHR BA Alone
ORD-LHR BA UA AA IAH CO is "Locked out" of LHR so BA must also fly the route to LGW...so the IAH-ORD-LHR is a way around it...
LGW is a good airport for UK Pax (Better Parking ect..) but there are no onward connections so LHR is the Airport Americans prefer..
But this has worked out well for CO to bypass LHR and fly to SNN,DUB.BFS,DEI,GLA,MAN,BHX and those folks HATE to transit LHR
of course I think the Euro Govt will have to allow some LHR flights in exchange for what they want
CO has wanted to fly to LHR many years before Airlines (and Countries) like Latvia existed BT RIX-LHR and EK were somehow found room at LHR for them
the Brits can't stall out CO NW US forever
Texdravid From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1266 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2907 times:
Unlike the IAH-ORD-LHR BA flight, you can get off the DFW-ORD-LHR AA flight because, obviously, AA has the rights to fly DFW-ORD, while BA does not have the right to sell tickets just for IAH-ORD.
Incidentally, if you wish to fly DFW-ORD, avoid the AA 777 Flight 66 that indeed continues to LHR. This flight is packed with thru travelers to the U.K. and is one of the most delayed flights in AA's system. Its on-time record is bad.
Pbb152 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 594 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2829 times:
Lt-AWACS,
No, unfotunately CO has never had the rights to fly into LHR. BA's flight from IAH to LHR did however used to stop at IAD before continuing on. That was very short-lived as about 9 months later it changed to the current IAH-ORD-LHR routing.
Lt-AWACS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 18, posted (8 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2813 times:
ah that must have been it, I vaguely remember talking to some friends that had flown through IAD at somepoint. I guess CO routes all of their traffic through Virgin. Thanks.
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