AR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 2 Posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 729 times:
I'm planning on going to the USA to become a comercial pilot, and I want to know if you could recommend me some pleaces.Also, it is possible to get financiation from a bank to pay for this? I've heard that prices are 50,000+.
TWA902fly From United States, joined Dec 1999, 2739 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 715 times:
I'm here at the University of North Dakota, but many people will tell you that is not worth it. Embry Riddle offers a similar program, but costs aboute four times as much, not counting the flying lessons,... at UND i spend about 30,000 a year so far... 6500 tuition plus 7500 flying a semester, plus housing and food... i think its a pretty good deal... as far as tuition goes UND is pretty cheap for a school in the states
TWA902
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
TWA902fly From United States, joined Dec 1999, 2739 posts, RR: 2 Reply 4, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 668 times:
Hey North Dakota isnt for everyone i admit... but i like it... and im from Chicago... which has the population about 20 times the size of the whole state lol... its nice to have a lot of open space here.. makes you feel free, but i wouldnt live the rest of my life here...
TWA902
life wasn't worth the balance, or the crumpled paper it was written on
AR1300 From Argentina, joined Feb 2005, 1740 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 668 times:
it costs more and you dont get those flying hours afterwards, neither a possible job or a job interview at least.
By the way... I lived in Chicago too ,three years, in Albany park, in Foster and Bernard st.
XJRamper From United States, joined Dec 2003, 2015 posts, RR: 38 Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 613 times:
i know its not affiliated with a university, but all atps is a good school....ill be going there in two years after im out of college. http://www.allatps.com and its only $40,000 (with examiners fees)
Another school that i have heard mixed reviews on is the Delta Connection Academy. They are in affiliation with Delta air lines and school wise, they offer a few choices. http://www.deltaconnectionacademy.com
727EMflyer From United States, joined Mar 2005, 547 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 591 times:
There are a lot of big time schools out there. Spend a few dollars to join AOPA and get their monthly "Flight Training" magazine. Every other page is an ad for a school with contact info. This way you can see where the big boys are located, what they offer, then get in touch with them to see who is right for you. Oh and the articles are helpful too.
FlyinTLow From Germany, joined Oct 2004, 376 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 535 times:
AllATP also has a school in Manassas, VA, just outside of Washington D.C. I actually flew a few lessons there with a different school. Really nice airport to learn. It's close enough to Dulles to get a real good taste of the "real aviation world" (squawk codes, radar vectors, etc.) but all you do is turn south, and you are out in the open with a great training area!
The flying at UND is, in general, quite good. However, you have to understand that UND is in what may as well be the end of the earth. Flat everywhere, and nothing but fields around the town (which I like to describe as a "suburb-without-a-city-attached"). Also, why they don't have de-ice capability on their planes is beyond me. Yeah, the place gets all kinds of weather, but what good is that if you can't fly in it? Clouds are off-limits basically from October to April.
Don't get me wrong, the school is very good, and is a relatively good value, but are you into flying enough to deal with the fact that everything else about the place sucks? I thought that I was, but more and more I find myself wanting to get out of there.
Give UND some consideration, but also keep in mind that there are plenty of other good collegiate aviation programs in the US. There's one in Arizona (not Embry-Riddle, something else) that I thought looked pretty interesting.
Saab2000 From Switzerland, joined Jun 2001, 1171 posts, RR: 7 Reply 16, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 480 times:
If you need to get a college education, do it. But most people I know who have done aviation programs in college will tell you it is not worth it and that they should have studied something else and then concentrated on flying at a dedicated flight school.
As far as I am concerned, the best flight-specific school in the US is FlightSafety Academy in Vero Beach, FL. They are thorough and professional. But they are just a flight school and do not have academic subjects. It is a supplement to a college education, not a substitute.
AA777 From United States, joined May 1999, 2384 posts, RR: 26 Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 467 times:
How is ATP vs Deltaconnection? I've been looking at both...cant tell which one is better. I like delta connection because they advertise the whole "guaranteed interview" with delta.... but i mean, that doesnt mean they are highering... But they do say they've placed 97 percent of their graduates ....
-AA777
When the government fears the people, there is liberty; when the people fear the government, there is tyranny.
Doug_Or From United States, joined Mar 2000, 2534 posts, RR: 2 Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 445 times:
ATP requires like 1500 hours of flight time (yes I shoyld know it off the top of my head but I'm so far away, it really just isn't relavent). Regarding garunteed interviews....... don't let these influence your decsion. Most are scams, either the job is crap, they don't have positions avilable, start date is years away, etc, etc. I've heard very few bad things about ATP and flightsaftey. You'd do well to check out jetcareers.com and their forums section.
N5176Y From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 448 times:
You are NOT going to get an ATP for $50,000. In fact, I don' t think anyone can actually "buy" an ATP... they usually get it through working.
My suggestion, get your degrees in Argentina in a useful subject (economics, engineering, etc.) and get your PPL and other ratings during the summers at AllATPS in the states. You can get your PPL from them for $7K and the 90 day program will take you from PPL to IFR, COM, CFII, and MEI for $37,000.
FlyMIA From United States, joined Jun 2001, 3470 posts, RR: 3 Reply 23, posted (3 years 8 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 433 times:
ATP flight school is my choice if you dont need a college education. Gives you most of your ratings. No ATP though. But once you hit 500 hours PIC and around 150 Multi you can get an interview with Express Jet. And for some reason they love ATP graduates.
Ar1300: Do you hold a US passport? Getting a job in the US is most likely the hardest place to get a flying job.
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