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Sleeping Passenger During Meal Service  
User currently offlineAXESS From Japan, joined Mar 2004, 64 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 5162 times:

Specially in Y class, when it is time for meal service but sleeping passenger in the seat front of you do not bring the seat to the up-right position and that you feel uncomfortable enjoying meal service, what would you do, or what should cabin attendant do. In case of cabin attendant he or she has to respect sleeping passenger too...

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User currently offlineN317AS From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 5108 times:

I've never been bothered by the pax in the seat in front of me with their seat back. Unless it's some whiney ass screaming kid. I think the sleeping pax has the right to sleep.

User currently offlineSNATH From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 3238 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 5104 times:

Axess,

During redeyes I like to try to get some sleep as soon as the plane takes off. Since I know there will be a meal service, I do try to keep my seat mostly upright to avoid being hassled by the F/As (I usually recline my seat very little). But, I'm telling you, if a F/A wakes me up for any reason, i.e. to offer me the meal, I get mighty pissed  crazy  'cause it takes me a lot of effort to fall asleep in a plane.

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User currently offlineAloha73G From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2353 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 5084 times:

On both Aloha and Hawaiian they ask all assengers to put their seats upright during the meal service.

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User currently offlineSkydrol From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 957 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (9 years 4 months ago) and read 5068 times:

AXESS:

I have witnessed several times F/As waking up pax to have them raise their seat back so the pax seated behind them can eat. This is only fair. I have tried to eat with the top of a reclined seat over the meal and basically in my face and it just doesn't work. Also, if there is a drink at the top corner of the tray, it is wedged against the seat back and cannot be lifted out. There is already limited elbow space which makes eating a bit difficult, but adding a seat back overtop of the meal makes it almost impossible, especially if you are tall.



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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 4844 times:

You'll find that if you push very gently but firmly against the seat in front of you, you can push it upright again. If you do it quietly and gently, the pax in front won't even wake up. Works for me.

User currently offlineSK A340 From Sweden, joined Mar 2000, 845 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4793 times:

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
You'll find that if you push very gently but firmly against the seat in front of you, you can push it upright again. If you do it quietly and gently, the pax in front won't even wake up. Works for me.

Thanks for the tip! I'll try that sometime  Wink

Why is it so popular to lean the back of the seat anyway? When the seat belt sign has come off it's like half of the passengers rush to the toilet and half of them lean their seats. I have no experience of first or business class seats but in economy I don't think it makes a big difference. Perhaps in a plane like the 757 when there are a 3-3 config and TV screens over the aisle one must lean the seatback to see the TV if you are in the window seat. But for comfort, it doesn't matter.

/Micke


User currently offlineStarlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 16976 posts, RR: 67
Reply 7, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4773 times:

Quoting SK A340 (Reply 6):
Why is it so popular to lean the back of the seat anyway?

One a short flight, big deal. On an overnight sleeper across the pond, even 5 cm make a difference.

Quoting JGPH1A (Reply 5):
You'll find that if you push very gently but firmly against the seat in front of you, you can push it upright again. If you do it quietly and gently, the pax in front won't even wake up. Works for me.

Well said JGPH1A. It always amazes me how many people slam their tray tables back up. Don't they understand that a little tenderness goes a long way?



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User currently offlineLeskova From Germany, joined Oct 2003, 6075 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4727 times:

Quoting Starlionblue (Reply 7):
Well said JGPH1A. It always amazes me how many people slam their tray tables back up. Don't they understand that a little tenderness goes a long way?

Very true... but I've, on occasion, had that strange species of human being in a seat in front of me that, specifically for the meal service, reclines his seat...

On those occasions, I usually ask them to return their seat to an upright position, which usually works - only in one case the passenger was not willing to move...

Maybe I'm too friendly to my fellow passengers - but on my last overnight flights, I've started sleeping without putting the seat back... worked perfectly: I wasn't bothered by anyone slamming down their tray, but still woke up refreshed - well, as refreshed as you can get on those short 6-7 hour transatlantics...

Regards,
Frank



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User currently offlineLeigh pilgrim From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2000, 392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4421 times:

Hey all,

I have to say, all passengers have paid for there seats, so, what ever the service, you should be able to do what you like, understandably, if meals are presented to you and the person in front has there seat reclined, it is annoying, but thats down to them, they have paid for it.

I do have an idea, to avoid it, travel with Ryanair, there seats dont recline....., but then again, there aint no meal service!!!!, you cant win!

Also, go with BA WTP, even it the seat in fron reclines, your tray is in the armrest, problem solved!!


User currently offlineSQno1 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2004, 687 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 4402 times:

Isn't it BR that put a sticker on your shirt on your body to say youve missed a meal and if you woujld like one you can collect one from the cabin crew.

With Regards,
SQno1


User currently offlineLufthansa747 From Philippines, joined May 1999, 3201 posts, RR: 43
Reply 11, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4399 times:

Quoting Leigh pilgrim (Reply 9):
Also, go with BA WTP, even it the seat in fron reclines, your tray is in the armrest, problem solved!!

So is AY J PTV - impossible to stow if the seat in front is reclined.



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User currently offlineTomys From Czech Republic, joined Mar 2005, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4347 times:

I somehow manage to eat even with seat in front of me downcast  Smile

But when I was flying from Tokyo last month, I had whole row for myself, so I lied down and tried to sleep. Attendant just woke me up saying please fasten your seatbelts so I won't need to wake you up once you will have to do so Big grin


User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4324 times:

When I went to London they ladies in front of me put their seats back the whole way which made the video monitors closer and pointed down a little (had to adjust it-no biggy though) and one lady flew her jacket over the seat so the monitor and tray table were covered.  mad  But I just moved the jacket away and when the meal service came, they woke up.

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User currently offlineKomododx From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 14, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4322 times:

In certain a/c types, I actually find it useful that the person in front of me is reclined. Some of these tray tables don't slide so my food is a bit far and I might risk dropping the food travelling on my fork in mid-air from the plate to my mouth... It happened to me once and I was so pissed!

Stefano


User currently offlineGlidepath73 From Germany, joined Mar 2005, 1020 posts, RR: 45
Reply 15, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 4266 times:

EK is giving stickers on longhaulflights for this reason not to be waked up by misstake. The green one says: "Wake up for meal"
The pink one says : "Do not Disturb" The third says: "Wake me up for Duty Free"
You put the sticker on the top of your backrest. I love this idea! Those stickers coming with the bag for the earphones.
Very good service BTW.
 veryhappy 



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User currently offlineANNOYEDFA From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 451 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4224 times:

JetblueatjfkL Yeah right her coat on my TV and seat back! I would of tossed her coat... She would of gotten the hint........

Sorry guys but unless you paid for the seat infront of you for which the passenger is sitting in they have ever right to recline it from take-off until it's time to put it up.



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User currently offlineBA319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8467 posts, RR: 55
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4193 times:
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When flying 'Y', I generally don't recline the seat as I can sleep very well sitting upright plus I don't like to reduce the limited room the person behind me has - boy, I wish someone like me sat in front of me Smile

In Business,which I now tend to use longhaul, I use the recline since there is more room and heck, you are paying for the room IMHO.

Rgds

Mark



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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 18, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3824 times:

Quoting SQno1 (Reply 10):
Isn't it BR that put a sticker on your shirt on your body to say youve missed a meal and if you woujld like one you can collect one from the cabin crew.

No, that's me Big grin

Quoting Glidepath73 (Reply 15):
EK is giving stickers on longhaulflights for this reason not to be waked up by misstake. The green one says: "Wake up for meal"
The pink one says : "Do not Disturb" The third says: "Wake me up for Duty Free"
You put the sticker on the top of your backrest. I love this idea! Those stickers coming with the bag for the earphones.
Very good service BTW.
veryhappy

I wish NWA had those... Everytime I wake up, the fa's with the breakfast trays are headin' for the galley!



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User currently offlineHjulicher From Liechtenstein, joined Feb 2005, 868 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3600 times:

I find it annoying regardless but I don't say anything. I really hate inconveniecing other passengers. But on one flight, the FA ran out of food for the portion of the plane I was sitting in beginning with my row, so she had to go to the galley to replenish, and the lady in front of me was given a meal. However, I was served a drink. Later when I just began to eat, she was already finished, and she jerked her seat back to recline causing everything to spill all over me. Some people are just so inconsiderate.


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User currently offlineNWADC9 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4896 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3564 times:

Quoting Hjulicher (Reply 19):
Later when I just began to eat, she was already finished, and she jerked her seat back to recline causing everything to spill all over me. Some people are just so inconsiderate.

And that's why I only recline when the movies are over, or if I'm the last row of that section, or I'm in first/business Wink



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User currently offlineLemurs From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 1439 posts, RR: 4
Reply 21, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 3497 times:

I guess I'm used to eating like that...I've never once thought twice about it. Sure it's not like sitting at a table or anything, but the meals are so small and awkward to begin with, it just doesn't seem to make a difference. *shrug*

My only point is that I'm surprised at how many people really are affected like this. I had no idea.  eek 



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User currently offlineAviationwiz From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 961 posts, RR: 4
Reply 22, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3188 times:

Once on SA they asked the person my dad was sitting behind to put her seat in the full up right position during Breakfast. The thing is, she had just set her seat back right after they made the announcement that they should move their seats into the full upright position. That's why I like the seats with the bulkhead behind me, no need to pull the seat up during meal service!


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User currently offlineOzGlobal From France, joined Nov 2004, 2711 posts, RR: 4
Reply 23, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 3123 times:

Quoting NWADC9 (Reply 18):
Quoting Glidepath73 (Reply 15):
EK is giving stickers on longhaulflights for this reason not to be waked up by misstake. The green one says: "Wake up for meal"
The pink one says : "Do not Disturb" The third says: "Wake me up for Duty Free"
You put the sticker on the top of your backrest. I love this idea! Those stickers coming with the bag for the earphones.
Very good service BTW.
veryhappy

I wish NWA had those... Everytime I wake up, the fa's with the breakfast trays are headin' for the galley!

AF has had these for a long time too, and they're really useful for skiping all meal services on that all too short JFK-CDG sector across the pond, where your really need to sleep and can easily get breakfast after you arrive.



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User currently offlineOrlo3 From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 139 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 2847 times:

Meal Service? What's that?

25 Airgeek12 : Question: If I was sleeping on a trans-atlantic flight (VS747) and I was sleeping while meal service startes, would the F/A wake me up? If not, what w
26 PIA777 : When I first went to Pakistan, I flew Kuwait Airways. I was so sleepy the entire flight but the FAs always woke me up and finally during the end of th
27 AXESS : I also like EK sticker system
28 Airgeek12 : What's that?
29 ACDC8 : Airgeek12...EK gives you stickers that you put on your seats back to let the F/A know whether to wake you up for meal service, duty-free or to let you
30 Airgeek12 : Oh ok, cool. If you choose to sleep, can you get a meal later? geek
31 ACDC8 : Thats a good question. I know you can do that in some biz classes but I highly doubt they'll do that in econo class. Anyone else know?
32 AeroWesty : When I'm flying first/business, I tell the flight attendant while taking my order it's okay to wake me for the meal. In coach, if I'm feeling sleepy,
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