PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7501 posts, RR: 28 Posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 5050 times:
Highlights of stuff coming up this spring/summer:
5 !!!! daily DTW-AMS flights (4 333, 1 DC-10) beginning in Mid-May
Departures from DTW at 16:05, 17:25, 19:05, 21:40, & 22:20 (NEW DC10)
Departures from AMS at 8:05, 11:00, 13:00 (NEW DC10), 14:20, 17:35
Summer Avro service in ASE (1 daily), hasn't operated in over 3 years
3 weekly flights on ANC-OGG-HNL-ANC (753 service). This flight was only to operate during late winter, but will restart during the summer
MSP-NRT up to 10 weekly flights, from 8 (744 service)
DTW-SLC will now operate 2 dailys year-round (A319)
New service begins in April:
DTW-CHO SF3 (3 daily) new city
DTW-LBE SF3 (3 daily) new city
DTW-AVP 2-CRJ, 1 SF3 (3 daily) new city
MSP-ELP CRJ (2 daily) new city
New service begins in May to:
MEM-LNK CRJ (2 daily)
DTW-RFD CRJ (2 daily) new city
DTW-ITH SF3 (2 daily) new city
DTW-BDA A320 (seasonal to mid-Aug) new city
New service begins in June to:
IND-STL CRJ (2 daily)
MSP-IDA CRJ new city
LAN-DCA CRJ (LAN-IAD ends)
New Service in July:
DTW-Charlottetown, Canada CRJ (seasonal to mid-Oct) new city
AA B777-200 From Netherlands, joined Mar 2001, 505 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 3 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4867 times:
I thought that SEA was going to 333 out of Amsterdam. And yes, too bad the DC10 is back on DTW.
I'm surprised that this baby leaves Amsterdam at 13.00. Most KLM longhauls leave at about 14.00/14.30.
Last couple of years departures were around 08.00, 11.00, 14.20, 16.30 and 19.15, but I guess that late departure would be limited in connecting traffic out of Detroit.
Neilalp, DTW is THE NW hub so I don't see why KLM should bother flying into DTW.
But then again, in previous years they did, also MD11s and 747s into MSP.
PHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7507 posts, RR: 24
Reply 6, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4687 times:
Personally, I never heard that KLM would be taking over the BOS-AMS from NW; now that KLM is part of AF, I don't know how much liberty KLM has in adding additonal routes under their colors.
From what I've heard on other NW / BOS-AMS threads; it is believed (much to your dislike?) that NW will be flying DC-10s on that route during the spring and summer. It will switch back to the A330 (probably for good) sometime in the fall.
"TransEastern! You'll feel like you've never left the ground because we treat you like dirt!" SNL Parady ad circa 1981
RJNUT From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 1209 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 4644 times:
all the recent NW service announcements I have found to be loaded in Worldspan, with the sole exception of the 3rd daily MCI-IND. Have they reconsidered that option or just havent quite figured out where the A/C will come from at this point?
Neilalp From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1034 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 4580 times:
AMS is the KLM hub! Or DTW is the NW hub. What's your point? KLM has flown to DTW in the past and with profit being 50/50 on all flights over the Atlantic I don't see why it makes a difference.
Also I find KLM service to be better than NW's. Well at least before the A330's. More food service, but on a flight back from CDG on NW this past summer I felt the food service was par to KLM's International service.(back in 02 or 03 when KLM flew to DTW.)
Ejmmsu From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1692 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 4005 times:
It looks like OKC will go all avro after having some DC-9's to MEM and DTW. I wonder if the loads were not good enough, or if the aircraft are simply better dispached somewhere else. This is good for OKC pax since the Avro has the most comfortable coach product in the US in the 69 seat configuration.
"If the facts do not conform to the theory, they will have to be disposed of"
PSU.DTW.SCE From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 7501 posts, RR: 28
Reply 19, posted (9 years 3 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 3916 times:
OKC flip-flops back in forth between all Avro and a few DC-9's. Likely now since during the winter DC-9's were put on since more Avro's were needed for ASE flying.
NW will operate all DTW/MSP/MEM - AMS routes, in addition to BOS & SEA. It makes more sense for NW to operate flights out of their hubs and let KLM have the non-hub cities like EWR, IAD, ATL, LAX, SFO, etc.