Lehpron From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 7028 posts, RR: 19 Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2942 times:
Hopefully some of you know this, for those that don't:
It bugs me when people insinuate that A380 needs to prove itself by flying. We got something 'airborne' 40 years ago weighing in at 2 times as much as A380, it was a Soviet ground effect machine called Ekranoplane. Around the same time we launched a rocket, called Saturn V, that had an equivalent MTOW of 6 times A380's future potential stretch version!
I don't differentiate between rockets and airplanes much, both have to lift themselves; one uses extreme thrust and the other must move horizontally to create lift in it's wings. Force (whether wing lift or rocket thrust) over area is pressure, on a stucture that is stress and shear, the materials existed then to withstand the pressures of lifting those kinds of weight. Politics and business aside, we did it; it happened and just because it didn't happen again does not mean it probably won't work again.
I am certain we have the technology even now to make something like a 5000pax airplane, and yes it will fly, duh. Though most rockets do not have to endure multiple cycles, this plane may not fly more than a few times. Thus any plane that large built now with current technology cannot be successful, but it will fly and land in one piece. Marketability is an issue, IMO probably the biggest issue. Who's gonna buy it, store it, maintain it?
Business aside; we lifted a 7 MILLION-lb monster in 1969 and it really bugs some of you are claiming that we can't lift 1.2 million lbs now, in 2005; not because you looked at what technology is avail, but becasue it is the biggest thing you have ever seen and so it can't fly?? Are you serious?! This is what happens when you go on and on about one thing (modern airliners) and not inform yourself about other ideas and technologies -- you get ignorant. Frankly, I get frustrated .
Look, A380 is nowhere by comparison to what we as humans have engineered to lift.
We can make MASSIVE vehicles as such explained above, there is just no business in it yet -- know the difference between all three.
Thank you for reading through this,
[Edited 2005-03-16 08:39:13]
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Bill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8508 posts, RR: 8
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 2916 times:
Quoting Lehpron (Thread starter): Business aside; we lifted a 7 MILLION-lb monster in 1969 and it really bugs some of you are claiming that we can't lift 1.2 million lbs now, in 2005; not because you looked at what technology is avail, but because it is the biggest thing you have ever seen and so it can't fly?? Are you serious?!
Those who believe the A380 won't fly, when you have given examples of larger heavier aircraft with less technology that have flown, are just naive. Those who think it won't fly because its "ugly" are just stupid.
Starlionblue From Greenland, joined Feb 2004, 17668 posts, RR: 65
Reply 3, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2842 times:
I think some people just go through life being negative. As it does Lehpron, it really bugs me too. If we listened to those people, we never would have come down from the trees in the first place, let alone pick up that first club next to the monolith...
So onward bravely towards the future, friends. Don't listen to the nay sayers!
"There are no stupid questions, but there are a lot of inquisitive idiots."