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User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 2009 times:

I do realise this has been discussed a few months back in this thread http://www.airliners.net/discussions...general_aviation/read.main/1812051 but I just need a few things clearing up.

Sadly I shall be flying on SCY on 06 MAY to Skiathos. I phoned Libra Holidays, whom we booked with, to confirm the aircraft information as it wasn't printed in the brochure.

When I finally got through to them they told me the flight was operated by an Airbus. What Airbus I asked? An A300 they said. Erm....

So basically they have left me confused as their two happy shopper styled A300's have gone to MNG Airlines like G-SWJW now TC-MNZ seen below.


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In that other thread it is stated that Manchester - Skiathos is operated by a Finnair B752 in Y227 config. Will this be the aircraft they use or will they magic up an A300?

Also, will Air Scandic's livery ever be seen again or will it be Finnair and Viking colours on all their flights?

Cheers.


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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1974 times:
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The A300 isn't certified to operate into Skiathos - so it would never have been that type in any case.

Air Scandic's website is surprisingly helpful in this respect, all Manchester short-haul flights are due to be operated on Finnair B757s this summer. All Standsted and East Midlands flights are due to be on MD-83s.

The A300s are gone and not coming back - from now on Air Scandic appear to be planning on using other airlines' aircraft and flightdeck crews and just providing their own cabin crew.

With these type of leases aircraft are frequently rotated for maintenance/operational reasons with other members of the lessor's fleet - fot that reason (and no doubt cost too) Air Scandic do not even apply decals to wet-leased aircraft.

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1954 times:

Ok thanks for your help, another B757 it is. I did check www.airscandic.com but I didn't think something that pathetic was an official corporate website!

Just with Libra telling me about 'The Airbus' I wanted clarify some things and you did.  Smile



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User currently offlineTFSPhoto From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1941 times:

Your certainly right about their website, it looks like its rather old and improperly designed. Not much compaired to other small airlines.. anyhow, I've not seen the Scandic A300's at MAN for a while..... last time i noted was November 2nd 04.

User currently offlineGKirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 1932 times:

SCY will also now have a 757 in NCL this summer, operating on behalf of Excel Airways


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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1873 times:
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You can see in these shots how short the runway at Skiathos is and the reason inbound flights to the UK normally make a fuel stop en-route;

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Not only is it short (1684m/5526ft) the runway is also very narrow at 30m width against a standard width of 45m. Even with turning circles at both ends the A300 would struggle to make the 180 deg turn to line up - it's tight for a B757!

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineEilennaei From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1853 times:

The A300s seem to have been transferred to Turkish. I don't know whether MNG is the registered owned any longer. I'd expect them to have a long life, they're practically new anyhow (del. 1984). One should appreciate the fact that they are the oldest modern A300 widebodies (2-man cockpit) in active duty worldwide. http://www.airliners.net/open.file/751849/M/

Air Scandic will be operating leased Finnair 757-200s (Y227), and MD-80s of the day.

-eilennaei


User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1836 times:

Considering the A300s were 2 cockpit crew and fairly young, why did SCY get rid of them so quickly. There capacity was surely useful in the busy summer months.

User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1831 times:

CROSSWIND, I'm not going to thank you for showing me those photos of the airport. You've just made my stomach flip.  Wink

I can't believe it, BLK is bigger. Literally!



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User currently offlineHorus From Egypt, joined Feb 2004, 5230 posts, RR: 59
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1826 times:

Jeez, that is a small airport. How many B737s/A320s can the apron handle at any one time? 2? 3?

Horus



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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1809 times:

Is it just me, or does it appears that on the photo's posted by Crosswind that there is a path/track which goes right up to the end of the runway? A potential SXM-esque opportuntity perhaps? That's if its allowed (remember Kalamata - shudder!).


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User currently offlinePe@rson From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 19233 posts, RR: 52
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1801 times:

Sure it's not your eyesight, David, considering you're so  old  ? Big grin

Seriously, though, it does look like there's something at the end, bar the road. Pretty good opportunities, I would think.



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User currently offlineCapital146 From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2003, 2125 posts, RR: 44
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1788 times:

Curses to you Pe@rson! Not content with bashing JGPH1A with the ageist comments, you decide to start on me again! Big grin

Anyway, from having another look at the photo's (with my fading eyesight) it looks as though the airport would only be able to handle only 2 or 3 B757/A320 sized aircraft at a time. Would imagine the departures area would get pretty crammed for a B757 flight.



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User currently offlineTimRees From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2001, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1774 times:

Have flown into Skiathos a couple of times - once with Dan Air and once with Orion in 733/732's. Those were the days.

You're right, the runway is short! The flight deck crew warn you that the after landing reverse thrust will be used and not to worry. Also on take off they advise you that full thrust will be applied before brakes off! (correct me if that isn't possible...I'm not a pilot...but you get the idea!). You certainly felt the deceleration/acceleration in each case.

On each flight back to LGW a tech stop was made at Thessaloniki for refueling (apart from the runway length I don't believe they keep much JetA1 on the field). Skiathos to Thessaloniki takes about 25 mins.

Regarding spotting opportunities. There were numerous signs warning against it in those days....typical of all Greek airports. As with most charter airports there was a British day, German day, Scandinavian day etc, but I was more interested in the holiday than trekking around the perimeter and risking getting arrested!

Great place though...you'll enjoy it..


User currently offlineMyt332 From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 9112 posts, RR: 70
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 1763 times:

Well I'm glad you think it's a nice place Tim, it'll be interesting to see for myself though, quite looking forward to it.  Smile

The airport does look just a tad small, lets hope they have invested in a few A/C units over there!

We are due to stop in Thessaloniki on the return although the day I fly home is the first return flight of the season, with my outbound being the first one of the season. Is there any chance of a light load thus a direct flight home? I know it's happened before.

I say this as last year in Cuba we did the same and our A332 of TCX returned with only 120 pax. This just meant more room onboard, we obviously didn't need the added range we may have got.



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User currently offlineCrosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2598 posts, RR: 58
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1732 times:
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If you want to see some photos of how close the road is to the end of the runway, have a look here or here

There are actually quite a lot of photos of Skiathos on one of the "other" sites, to save your fingers here's a link to them!

Regards
CROSSWIND


User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24938 posts, RR: 56
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1725 times:

Some flights to Skiathos stop in Volos on the way back. Airlines such as Astraeus with their 73Gs often fly back nonstop  Wink
I believe 757s can get back nonstop also



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