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UA Will Work B6 @ PDX  
User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1539 posts, RR: 2
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2876 times:

It looks like we got the contract to handle B6. I don't know how we won this contract. ATS has most of the ground contracts at PDX. Its good news for us, more work.

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User currently offlineDaron4000 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 712 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2825 times:

This would be amazing news for UA if it's true. More business for UA means more $ which they need badly!

User currently offlineKdeg00 From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 145 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 2615 times:

Doesn't suprise me. Flying from ONT back to PDX the other day I noticed that the JetBlue gate in ONT had UA ground equipment hanging around. Does anyone have a number for how many cities UA does the handling for B6? Is it just a west coast thing?

User currently offlineUN_B732 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 4289 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2583 times:

Originally in Burlington jetBlue used the United gate, but I don't know if they used their own check-in at that point or not.


What now?
User currently onlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2561 times:

also supposedley UA handles our flight up in SEA too when we changed gates there.

~b6fa4EVER


User currently offlineN1120A From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 26536 posts, RR: 75
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

I would guess that B6's experience with working with UA at JFK when they started up (then kicking them out of T6 Big grin) has made Neelman a fan of UA's work. Good news all around, as B6 gets competent ramp work and UA makes some side cash while keeping people employed.


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User currently offlineStevenUhl777 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2536 times:

Yes...B6 operates out of the North satellite in SEA, and is handled by UA.

User currently offlineFlyibaby From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 1017 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 2505 times:

I can't help but wonder what the cost per turn is from UA. I'm thinking on avg in these cities around $1300.00

User currently offlineQuestAir From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 367 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2462 times:

Quoting N1120A (Reply 5):
B6 gets competent ramp work and UA makes some side cash while keeping people employed.

Yes, it's a win-win situation.



'Do we carry rich people on our flights? Yes, I flew on one this morning and I�m very rich.' - Michael O'Leary
User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25531 posts, RR: 50
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2459 times:

Jetblue does contract out ground handling to 3rd parties including to other airlines at several cities. Here is a list of a few of them.

Las Vegas & San Juan - Delta
Sacramento - America West
Seattle - United
Palm Beach - Worlwide
Denver, Ontario, Tampa - ASIG
Phoenix - Globe Ground



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User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 2264 times:

Wait if Delta does B6's ground work at LAS then how is B6 going to handle DH at LAS, I remember someone saying that a while back but I guess it is untrue.

 airplane jetBlueAtJFK airplane 



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User currently offlineFlashmeister From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 2900 posts, RR: 6
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 2215 times:
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So then do we know what gate B6 will be using at PDX yet?

User currently offlineLvkewlkid From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 2203 times:

Quoting JetBlueAtJFK (Reply 10):
Wait if Delta does B6's ground work at LAS then how is B6 going to handle DH at LAS, I remember someone saying that a while back but I guess it is untrue.



I heard that too. I also think AA takes care of DH because on LAS's website, it says American and Independence share the ticket counter. I was told though that B6 takes care of DH there.


User currently offlineOnt 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2052 times:

We (B6) are taking over the ramp in LAS in May I believe. Ever since I was hired (4/03) there was the constant rumor that we were about to take over our ramp in LAS. Now we are finally doing it. This summer we will be up to 10 flights a day.

LGBx3
JFKx6
BOSx1



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User currently offlineFightingdingo From United States of America, joined May 2004, 235 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1905 times:

Quoting Flashmeister (Reply 11):
do we know what gate B6 will be using at PDX yet?

B6 will be at PDX late at night, and from my observations UA usually fills all of the E gates with RON aircraft so it may be hard for B6 to find space there. I bet B6 will use D15,which is currently only used once a day for the NW PDX-NRT flight, or it will use D12, which currently is not being used and is operated by the port of portland.


User currently offlineRampRat74 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 1539 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1868 times:

There is plenty of room on the E-con for the flight. Our red-eye ORD leaves out of one of them. We use four hardstands east of the concourse. We also use four hardstands down at our cargo/gse mx/kitchen area.

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1854 times:

UA will also likely be handling ramp work for US in some of the soon-to-be-outsourced stations, particularly the smaller west coast stations like PHX and SEA.


I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlineSquirrel83 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1796 times:

Us Airlines SCHDL SEA

PHL 7:45a 3:39p 6 0 2378

PHL 1:50p 9:51p 106 0 2378

PHL 10:00p 5:47a 112 X6 0 2378

PIT 7:30a 2:52p 496 0 2124

CLT 10:55p 6:28a 518 0 2279

Is the above all the US Air flights aval. in SEA now?


http://www.trvlink.com/download/us/usaschedules.pdf

[Edited 2005-03-20 10:26:39]

[Edited 2005-03-20 10:32:20]

User currently offlineA330323X From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 3039 posts, RR: 44
Reply 18, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 1782 times:

US is not very small in SEA, I dont see that happening anytime soon at least I hope not and the same for PHX.

US is *absolutely* outsourcing ramp work in SEA and PHX, and 24 other stations. See here where I gave a list of the affected stations.

The only question is to whom US will be doing the outsourcing in which stations.



I'm the expert on here on two things, neither of which I care about much anymore.
User currently offlineLono From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 1335 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 1727 times:

"It looks like we got the contract to handle B6. I don't know how we won this contract. ATS has most of the ground contracts at PDX. Its good news for us, more work."
"Good news all around, as B6 gets competent ramp work and UA makes some side cash while keeping people employed."



I don't get this line of thinking... to me this is why the LCC's are able to compete... they save money on employees and ramp equipment... and then take customers away from the carrier working their turns...

I think the legacies should make the LCC's pay for their own employees and ramp equipment... and then the LCC's would not have any money to undercut the very people who turn their airplanes.... It just dosn't make any sense to me saying.... but we are able to keep our employees working and we are making side money.... this is just a stop gap... eventually the LCC will eat all your lunch....every time a LCC leaves with 100 PAX... look at it like ...hey those 100 PAX used to fly on us......



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User currently offlineONT 737 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 590 posts, RR: 2
Reply 20, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 1656 times:

Lono,

I guess you are not aware of a little airline called Southwest. They handle all of their ramp and customer service. No help from the legacies for them. Those service agreements are mutually beneficial for both airlines. For example at DFW CO handled HP's ramp and customer service. (A legacy from their ill-fated alliance that faltered immediately when HP became a low fare airline) CO's service sucked for the customers and they treated us (when I used to work for HP) employee non-revs like sh*t. I think they failed to realize that our 7 (or so) flights a day kept many of they employed. Finally HP decided to pull the plug and you can guess how the rest turned out for the CO employees with low seniority. It created added revenue for the airline providing the service and allows other airlines to provide service to airports with limited flights. Here at LGB HP provides ramp and customer service (don't let the uniform fool you) for AS. Is this AS's attempt to "eat their lunch"? Or are they just trying to provide reasonable service (without ATS stealing luggage) on their 3 daily LGB-SEA flights?



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