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Lahso At La Guardia?  
User currently offlineTimz From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 7231 posts, RR: 7
Posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 2431 times:

In replies 52 and 68 of this thread (on short runways)


someone seems to be saying it's normal for jet arrivals on LGA runway 4 to be required to hold short of runway 13/31-- so landing distance available 4600 ft. He says it's a Notice to Airmen on the ATIS.

But presumably pilots don't have to accept this? Do they mostly accept it, even jets? Does the tower have to explicitly instruct them to hold short-- surely the ATIS alone isn't considered to be enough of a notification of such an important hold-short?

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User currently offlineAirWillie6475 From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 2448 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2337 times:

4-3-11, paragraph 3 in the fed air regulations states that pilots have the final authority to accept a lahso request by the atc.

User currently offlinePhilSquares From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (11 years 2 months 2 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2335 times:

Just to elaborate. There is no requirement for a crew to accept a LAHSO clearance. As a matter of fact, some airlines participate in the program and others do not.

Tower has to give explicit instructions to land and hold short. However, it is really up the crew to accept or decline.

The LAHSO clearance and participation rate really fluctuates depending on a variety of things. Airlines have their own internal criteria for accepting or declining the clearance. So a participation rate would be hard to obtain.

Just as an illustration here at SQ, we can not accept a LAHSO clearance at any time. Plain and simple.

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