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Thread For The Third AI 777!  
User currently offlineMrniji From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 40452 times:

So, in the young a.net tradition of Indian and other members... - everything can be posted here!

here is the thread for the third AI 777.. the first two (me, Karan) have been extremely successful, with almost 300 and 200 answers, respectively...

What is the update on the third, when will it come, how will it be named, and which routes (rumors SYD, JNB, DEL-LON, SFO, IHA) will it open??

Any pics yet, and where is the aircraft at the mom? in the same paintshup in Lousiana? Pics yet?

When was she built, and how long did she 'rust in the desert'?  bigthumbsup 

Same config as the other two, and same UA cabin?

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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 40426 times:

Man....Am I Glad to see this Thread started  Smile
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 40416 times:

eagerly waiting for the 3rd rust bucket...  Wink

User currently offlineB742 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 3768 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 40417 times:

Air India's new Boeing 777-222ER - *VT-AIK

General Info:
Serial number 26935 LN:88
Type 777-222ER
First flight date 31/07/1997

Delivery Date Operator Registration Remark
11/08/1997 United Airlines N789UA Stored at Goodyear 24/11/03
10/03/2005 Air India *VT-AIK

*Note: I think they have got the Reg. wrong as VT-AIK has already been delivered, so I think it might be VT-AIL???

Engine Powerplants: Pratt & Whitney



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Photo © Sam Chui




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Photo © Michael Carter




I think this A/c will be used on DEL-AMR-BHX / EGBB), United Kingdom">BHX-YYZ / CYYZ), Canada - Ontario">YYZ!

What route is the 2nd A/C used on currently

The First is on BOM-LHR / EGLL), United Kingdom">LHR right?

Rob!

[Edited 2005-03-19 12:01:21]

User currently offlineDeltaWings From Switzerland, joined Aug 2004, 1294 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 40376 times:

OKay expect another 400 replies...


~DeltaWings



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4342 posts, RR: 35
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 40360 times:

The third Air India 777 will be VT-AII (26935/88 is correct identity though).
source: http://www.airlinerlist.com. The first was VT-AIK, the second VT-AIJ .



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User currently offlineGkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24947 posts, RR: 56
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 40347 times:

Still needs a new livery IMO


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User currently offlineLaxintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25786 posts, RR: 50
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 40315 times:

Last I heard, I believe aircraft was at Dallas Alliance Airport being serviced by American Airlines.


From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineIanatstn From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2003, 577 posts, RR: 4
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 40294 times:

Quoting Gkirk (Reply 6):
Still needs a new livery IMO

I agree, whilst the AI livery looks fantastic on the 747, it somehow just doesn't work on the triple 7's.  frown 

Cheers,
Ian.



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User currently offlineAirbusfanYYZ From Canada, joined Oct 2002, 1435 posts, RR: 25
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 40215 times:

AI third 777 is at AFW getting fitted out with a new interior.
I took a drive out to AFW on a recent trip (last week) to Dallas see if I could see her. Sadly she must have been parked in one of the hangers.

Can't wait to see the AI 777s at YYZ!

Cheers,
Kaz



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User currently offlineAseem From India, joined Feb 2005, 2046 posts, RR: 10
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 40178 times:

Quoting Ianatstn (Reply 8):
I agree, whilst the AI livery looks fantastic on the 747, it somehow just doesn't work on the triple 7's.

I fully agree.Don't quite know the reason why?
rgds.
Aseem



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User currently offlineCX747 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 4454 posts, RR: 5
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 40167 times:

How many 777s will Air India receive when their order is all said and done? Also, do we have any pictures of the first 2 AI 777s on the ramp together?


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User currently offlineVictorTango From India, joined Jan 2005, 501 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 40144 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 11):
How many 777s will Air India receive when their order is all said and done?

Three in all.

So far only one of the three 777s in the a.net database.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search

Olly


User currently offlineNyc777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5790 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 40042 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 11):
How many 777s will Air India receive when their order is all said and done? Also, do we have any pictures of the first 2 AI 777s on the ramp together?

It's not really an order. AI is getting the 3 777 on lease. I believe two have been delivered and are in service, the last is supposed to be in service by May at the latest though I'm not sure.



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User currently offlineHawaijahaz From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 352 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 40027 times:

Quoting AirbusfanYYZ (Reply 9):
AI third 777 is at AFW getting fitted out with a new interior.

I thought that AI was keeping the UA interiors with United First, Business and Economy.

PG


User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 39996 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 11):
do we have any pictures of the first 2 AI 777s on the ramp together?

The aircraft have only been together on the ramp at BOM very briefly. I tried to get a shot of them there on February 28, but there was a 744 blocking my view. They have been alternating on the operations to Heathrow recently as well as filling in on some shorthaul equipment substitutions, so they are getting a decent workout with very little ground time together.


User currently offlineLY4XELD From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 858 posts, RR: 15
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 39926 times:

As of Friday, the ex-UA 777 is still at AFW. It was out of the hangar on Friday afternoon (I work there). AA Maintenance is currently working on it. I know there is no paint hangar at AFW, so I'm not sure how that works; whether it is finished out and then painted or painted first and then delivered.


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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3548 posts, RR: 67
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 39897 times:

Any Air India people have any comments on how the 777 has been performing for them?


Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
User currently offlineB747-437B From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 39834 times:

Quoting OldAeroGuy (Reply 17):
Any Air India people have any comments on how the 777 has been performing for them?

100% dispatch reliability for the first 50 days of operation.

'nuff said.


User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 19, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 39715 times:

Quoting CX747 (Reply 11):
do we have any pictures of the first 2 AI 777s on the ramp together?

I've Seen them together many times.Too bad Photography Rule from Tarmec has not been relaxed.
regds
MEL



Think of the brighter side!
User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3262 posts, RR: 9
Reply 20, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 39282 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 18):
100% dispatch reliability for the first 50 days of operation.

This is good news, and I hope it continues this way for the rest of the lease period. I would hate it if these aircraft were to have problems, since AI desperately needs to get it's act together on new aircraft (purchased or leased).

What would the dispatch reliability for the 310 or 747 aircraft be for a typical 50 day period?



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User currently offlineOldAeroGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 3548 posts, RR: 67
Reply 21, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 39048 times:

Quoting B747-437B (Reply 18):
100% dispatch reliability for the first 50 days of operation.

'nuff said.

Not bad for a rust bucket.

Quoting Nimish (Reply 20):
This is good news, and I hope it continues this way for the rest of the lease period. I would hate it if these aircraft were to have problems, since AI desperately needs to get it's act together on new aircraft (purchased or leased).

What would the dispatch reliability for the 310 or 747 aircraft be for a typical 50 day period?

If two departures per day were assumed, then the A310, 747 or 777 could be expected to have one to two delays, seeing as how dispatch reliability for these types is between 98.5% and 99.5% based on average data from all operators. There is not enough data available to say that AI 777's are performing at or better than the fleet average. However, it would seem that their stay in the desert has not hurt them and AI has done a good job in returning them to service and maintaining them operationally.

Congratulations!



Airplane design is easy, the difficulty is getting them to fly - Barnes Wallis
User currently offlineThunderbird1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 38942 times:

Any word on what AIL will be named?

User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 23, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 38939 times:

Quoting Thunderbird1 (Reply 22):
Any word on what AIL will be named?

Def some Raga.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineAirIndia From United Arab Emirates, joined Jan 2001, 1644 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (9 years 7 months 1 week 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 38909 times:

"Bhairavi" should sound nice......

25 Post contains images Aseem : certainly not "Jhinjhoti"..seems as if it has struck some air pocket. rgds Aseem
26 Thunderbird1 : I like Bhairavi. Malkauns is also pretty good.
27 N60659 : Not to nit-pick but the third 777 to AI will be VT-AII. Here's the source:
28 N60659 : My vote is for Devagaandhaari
29 Mrniji : Can anyone tell when the third rustbucket is being delivered? And what routes, apart from BHX-YYZ - will be opened?
30 Karan69 : I think IAH via CDG may open up as there has been a lot of speculation on that route
31 Post contains images Mrniji : Jups, but there has been a lot of speculation on JNB via Port Louis and SYD via SIN, as well as SFO via FRA etc.., too..
32 HAWK21M : Yeah.When will it Arrive. regds MEL
33 Post contains images 22right : Any ideas what techniques AI used to remove the rust on these a/c? I have an old Bullet that has rusted because it sat out in the back yard and I need
34 Post contains images Mrniji : Remove the rust?? It is still on, as they are supposed to fall off the sky soon
35 Post contains images 22right : Oh!? So that's the source of the weird red color on the nose of these 777's. It's all making sense now!
36 Post contains images HAWK21M : Thats the Camoflague,its to divert Attention regds MEL
37 Thunderbird1 : Just to make sure newcomers all understand: apparently Air-India's 777s are "rustbuckets".
38 HAWK21M : BTW Wheres Roy vanished to. So whens the Scheduled Arrival. regds MEL
39 Karan69 : Is there any news on the change in its configuration
40 Post contains links and images WestWing : On the name of the third 777, perhaps is it obligatory for the name of the Raga to contain a reference to something that can be associated with aviati
41 Post contains links B747-437B : If the aircraft is not listed on the fleet page, then it is not in the fleet. That is airliners.net official policy on this issue and people have bee
42 Dulleswatcher : Lemme get this straight -- the Air India website is being cited as an authoritative source? Yowza. Last I checked, their website was a mess. Heck, the
43 Post contains images WestWing : That was hilarious. By the way, I did see AIK on Feb 28, (from my plane while taking off from LHR 27L). She (AIK) would have just got into the gate,
44 B747-437B : Alas, my meeting that afternoon was brought forward by a few hours so I had to fly out on AZ instead (since both the early BA and AI direct flights w
45 Post contains images WestWing : Ahhh. That explains your spotting of the pair together at 01:00 IST
46 CX747 : Can anyone explain to me how AI's 777s are rustbuckets? They sat in the desert where things DO NOT RUST. They operate perfectly fine and are more than
47 AirIndia : have tried posting on thier 'contct us' link, but there is no response. no updations as well.....
48 Post contains images HAWK21M : Ask Roy. BTW After the 3rd.What next.........Will the B777 fleet be Expanded. regds MEL
49 Rocketman742 : No more 777s for the moment what are coming are 3 more A 310s ex SIA to be delivered in june, july @ august05. 2 AI 310s are to be converted to cargo
50 HAWK21M : Are you saying AI wont need any Additional Long rangers for some time. regds MEL
51 Airish : Would have thought the 3rd B777 is coming but lets wait and see what Sean has to say on this.
52 B747-437B : I think Rocketman means that no 777s are coming beyond these 3. Last I heard the MRU was going to continue on to JNB, but thats about 2 months out of
53 Post contains links Airish : Here some more information on where the 3rd B777 might be going. http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/...03/26/stories/2005032601670300.htm Lets hope t
54 Aseem : the article says, they recently leased a B747 combi. Now which one is that? Is it yet to arrive? rgds Aseem
55 Jaysit : Among the new routes being planned by AI is a thrice-a-week connection on the Delhi-Dhaka-Kolkata-London sector. WTF? Even AI wouldn't come up with su
56 Karan69 : Dhaka-kolkatta getting a 777--this is nuts, is there that much demand, It would have been better if it was routed DEL-CCU-LON-CCU-DEL
57 Aseem : when are they going to get over their milk-man flight attitude. You won't even need to unfasten your seat belts on Dhaka-Kolkotta run. They could have
58 Post contains links and images Aseem : meanwhile we have a wonderful photo of "MeghMalhar" over here. Who says AI's livery looks bad on B777. Did I ever say so. View Large View MediumPhoto
59 Jaysit : DEL-CCU-LON-CCU-DEL Why? Why would you go 1500 miles east first, before you fly 6000 miles west?
60 Aseem : Maybe he meant CCU-DEL-LHR-DEL-CCU rgds Aseem
61 HAWK21M : Any Pics of the Third. regds MEL
62 Ourboeing : I am just curious, are the AI 777s being flown by Indian pilots or contractor pilots? I was not sure if AI had already trained their own to fly these
63 B747-437B : Both.
64 Post contains images 22right : Congratulations, OURBOEING!! This means you now qualify for free flights on AI/IC on Business Class or First Class. Isnt it great to be a part of the
65 Post contains images Ourboeing : I don't know 22right. I rarely fly either one of those airlines when I am In/To/Fro India. I am waiting for AI to start flying to IAD and I might give
66 Post contains images 22right : OurBoeing, Just kidding! I guess I was taking some cheap potshots for AI/IC's penchant for letting relatives of employees (or ex-employees) non-rev i
67 Post contains images WestWing : Well, it seems to have gotten very quiet here ? It's a month since N789UA was reported to be at AFW. Any news of a trip to ARA for repaint ? RobK ? LY
68 Rocketman742 : The 3rd AI 777 has been delayed. They cannabilised one of its engines onto the 2 nd 777 and now their 1 engine short. They are running around for a re
69 Post contains images Mrniji : Give it to BA, they will fly it will the lessor be penaltized?
70 Post contains images RobK : Sorry old cock? What about it ? It's an El Al B744. Cheers, Rob K
71 HAWK21M : So whats the latest on the 3rd. regds MEL
72 Karan69 : But is there any certain information if they will change their cabin configuration, IMO, they should because i do not think that they will get good lo
73 Mrniji : So, what is the newest info on the Third Rustbucket? And how is the Rustbucket-concept received amongst thje Panjus travelling FRA-DEL nowadays.. ? Mo
74 Post contains links and images Aseem : guys!! people like me are having second thoughts about AI livery on B777. It really looks awesome btw! you can see another AI 747 in the background. V
75 Mrniji : So, seems that soon more rustbuckets will be freshly ordered with Boeing! Congrats!
76 Mrniji : By the way, I discovered that pic yesterday in the database, Aseem.. it is amazing
77 Atmx2000 : Well some of them will be cheap Chinese copy plastic planes.
78 Post contains images HAWK21M : Is that supposed to be a Joke. regds MEL
79 Atmx2000 : Well not all the planes can rust, since some of them have a lot more plastic. And I've suspected that Roy AKA IndianGuy is really the Indian alter ego
80 Mrniji : OK, the dates are coming closer and closer.. what is the update on the third rustbucket?
81 Post contains links Airish : According to the media kit from AI website Boeing 777-200ER in May 2005 747-400 (Combi) in mid-April A310s between June 15 – July 15, 2005 http://ww
82 HAWK21M : Any details,like date,time,Name. regds MEL
83 Post contains images Mrniji : Question: AI 137 (with the second rustbucket) was supposed to fly DEL-FRA-LAX Now, I have observed that, according to AI webpage and FRA Airport, the
84 AirIndia : if that happens, will get myself booked on that. really want to get on a T7...
85 Post contains images HAWK21M : Was at the International Tarmec Today Afternoon.Watched B777 VT-AIJ Boarding in progress.Looks Great. Watched the NLG very closely.The wheels were col
86 Post contains images CaptOveur : They don't want anyone taking pictures of all that rust.
87 CX750 : Off topic - any news on when 9Ws A340s will reach BOM?
88 AT : To me, Air India would be a great candidate for the A380. Given the huge population of India, the perpetual shortage of seats, and the fact that capac
89 Planemannyc : Perhaps, but as 9W, S2 start competing directly with the larger AI (additional a/c), and more liberalized air treaties allow more foreign competition
90 Post contains links Jaysit : As the passenger steps on board Air-India’s luxurious First Class, his/her discerning eye can take in the little extras that place the airline’s F
91 Atmx2000 : Gee, could that be because a) the Indian government allowed only one airline to fly anywhere in the world b) didn't allow that airline the unfettered
92 Sammyk : " target=_blank>http://www.airindia.in/page.asp?page...d=229 A little off topic but also mentioned in the above link is the acquisition of a 744M in m
93 HAWK21M : Money & Infrastructure at Airports would decide the A380 for India. regds MEL
94 Mrniji : Now, that we know that we can expect brandnew rustbuckets soon.. when is the third leased one ariving finally?
95 HAWK21M : Any Name suggested for the Third. regds MEL
96 Mrniji : Following information was circulated in the Y! Group from a user who is not on a.net yet VT-AIL is going to Iberia to get painted on May 03 and should
97 Aseem : Subin, the 3rd one is going to the same place as 1st. It is New Iberia in Louisiana, where it is being painted. As for the B74E, it was in Malaysia f
98 Post contains links and images Mrniji : Ups.. sorry (how embarassing) - Iberia doesn't even operate T7s, AFAIK Maybe I should not call them rustbuckets anymore, as this might confuse one or
99 Post contains links WestWing : Do we know for sure that VT-AIJ was not painted by Aviation Exteriors ? Maybe AIJ was painted by them, but before heading to AFW for interiors ? By t
100 Post contains images Mrniji : I personally have no clue.. the information I gave was from s/o else, who said that he has pics, too.. will contact him, request the additional info
101 Post contains images Mrniji : This might interest you: OK, here some feedback form my mother, who had the great opportunity AI137 [LAX-]FRA-DEL yesterday on the T7 and is everythin
102 Post contains images Sammyk : Wow is there ever an Air India flight where there isn't a toilet issue? And New Iberia? I think a 777 can fit the entire population of that city!
103 Karan69 : Good to hear that your mom had a pleasant flight Subin, But strange if the Loads are quite low despite a very very competitive price, why did they mak
104 Mrniji : Karan, I think mid-of Feb and beginning of May belong to the worst season (can someone validate/reject my assumption?): Holidays haven't begun yet (S
105 HAWK21M : Whats the planned name for the 3rd.Which Raga. regds MEL
106 A340Spotter : FYI, N789UA 777 ferried over on the 1st from AFW to ARA (New Iberia, LA). It joins N920FX, Fedex ATR42-320F in the paint shops and a Comair CRJ by the
107 Himmat01 : The B74E is in Mumbai. I saw it at the AI Mx on May 1st and again on May 3rd. Himmat
108 HAWK21M : Whats the Mx schedule for the T7s this week. regds MEL
109 Aseem : try finding out what name it has been given..this time around it should be some place in Rajasthan. This gold mine of names has been neglected so far
110 Karan69 : When do they operate the BOM-DEL leg
111 Himmat01 : It still had the US registration N770PC. Himmat
112 Mrniji : Who, the rustbucket or 74E? The former only until Mid of May once a week AFAIR until VT-AIL is operational, the letter not all, AFAIK - otherwise, I
113 Post contains images AirIndia : if they are naming the new 74E after the erstwhile princely state, I agree Rajasthan wud be a gold mine. To start with "Mewar" sounds royal. reason b
114 HAWK21M : Sure Does regds MEL
115 B747-437B : Aircraft has now been reregistered in India. Rumor mill says she might see service as a substitution to London this weekend depending on booked loads
116 Mrniji : Pics yet? If she serves LHR, what about AIj? or should AIL be a substitute for a 744 (BOM-AMD-LHR, or even the LHR/ORD one?)?
117 Post contains images Mrniji : I was just wondering: what happens if one of the three T7s goes tech? Sean, you posted in the LHR-CCU thread the amazing plan how to rotate/utilize th
118 Karan69 : Did you post the above pics Subin??
119 B747-437B : India has maxed out its allocations on the Thailand route already (9895 weekly seats to be shared between between AI/IC), so there is no possibility
120 Karan69 : Does JAL operate daily 777 service to DEL which maximises their frequency or do they have rights to start flights to BOM
121 Mrniji : Sean, but they could use the combi for other routes, like SYD, Mauritius or so, as there is enough capacity for a 3/7 or so.. Not with digi, but with
122 WestWing : Looks like N789UA returned to AFW on Monday May 09 from ARA. Exterior must be done. Will the delivery flight be non-stop KAFW to VIDP ? In time for th
123 Mrniji : Didn't AI traditionally take delivery of new a/c in the form of a revenue flight (Sean once said callnumber AI160 or 161)? Would this happen with YYZ
124 B747-437B : The aircraft will not be delivered to Air India until she arrives in Delhi. Until that time, she is the responsibility of the lessor. Hence, no reven
125 Mrniji : If you guys inform me about exact time/date, I will go to the NH8 and catch her with my camera..
126 Post contains images DIJKKIJK : HA HA HA HA HA HA so someone was right about the rust after all.
127 HAWK21M : Will call you If I get Info. regds MEL
128 AI744LR : All i want to know is the name of the 3rd 777-200. Have I missed it somewhere? I would appreciate the info. Thanks.
129 Post contains images HAWK21M : Some Raga...I wonder which one. We'll know in a weeks time regds MEL
130 HAWK21M : Any News on the Third Name. regds MEL
131 Post contains images Mrniji : Maybe a raga called "rasta bakhata"?
132 Post contains images HAWK21M : I dont know many Ragas......Any Suggestions. regds MEL
133 Karan69 : Megh .........." fill in the blanks
134 WestWing : She's on the way ! N789UA departed AFW at 11:45 CDT Friday May 20 headed for DEL non-stop. If anyone has access to flight trackers, please post the pl
135 Post contains images Mrniji : Sh-t! I will have to meet someone around that time...! pls keep me updated in this thread.. if anyone knows the exact arrival time, could you pls sms
136 Post contains links and images WestWing : She is not AI yet, so she may be punctual, perhaps even early. Her planned flight duration (16:11) has her ETA @ DEL at 14:28 IST. You should also mo
137 Thunderbird1 : dont know many Ragas......Any Suggestions I think "Bhairavi" would be a beautiful name.
138 WestWing : Since there were a.netters commenting on the missing "dash" in Air-India.... VT-AIK now sports a dash in her starboard fuselage english titles. We kno
139 Sammyk : It was my understanding that the titles were decals as well as the window surrounds. Is this true?
140 HAWK21M : I heard that the Name would be Decaled at Mumbai after VT-AIL Arrival. regds MEL
141 Jetfixr : Maint. crew in Delhi leaving right now to meet AIL's arrival. 21May 1430 local time. Get out your cameras.
142 Karan69 : We Welcome you VT-AIL
143 HAWK21M : Finally. Whats the Mumbai Schedule like Jerry.Will you be leaving before that. regds MEL
144 Jetfixr : VT-AIL has arrived. It's finally here and will be going to Mumbai on 22May for mods and a new name.... It will most likely take over the BOM-LHR, AIK
145 HAWK21M : Great I'll chk it out on Tue Early Morning. Whats with the 9W A343 bash at the Hangar....Catch some pics. regds MEL
146 Post contains images Mrniji : I could not make it, as I had to meet someone in DEL.. when is AIL leaving for BOM tomorrow? Elsewise, I will go to DEL airport tomorrow morning That
147 Jetfixr : AIL is scheduled for a BOM departure at 1100 22May. That would put the arrival at about 1240 in Mumbai. Then the fun begins. I was supposed to go to D
148 Jetfixr : Update AIL is headed for Mumbai arrival is approx. 1500 22may....
149 HAWK21M : Did it arrive yet.I was stuck at the Airport last 30 hrs thanks to a Bird Injestion on our Aircraft. regds MEL
150 Karan69 : 30 FREAKING HOURS ????????
151 Aseem : one of them is for YYZ flight..what about the other one? some terminator flight to LHR/FRA!! rgds VT-ASJ
152 Mrniji : rustbuckets are used on BOM-LHR BOM-BAH-DOH (once a week, is this right, or was it MCT?) DEL-ATQ-BHX-YYZ DEL-DAC CCU-DAC (both DAC sectors for rotati
153 HAWK21M : I wonder if the Names selected for AIL. regds MEL
154 Himmat01 : Some suggestions Yaman Aheer-Bhairav Puria-Dhanashree Dev-Gandhar Gurjar-Todi Sindhura Suddha-Sarang Kamod Basant Khambavati These are all classical
155 Jetfixr : This is correct except for for Sundays run to BAH is to DOH first. I believe this schedule should start as soon as Jun 6. (DEL-DAC-CCU-LHR) If AIL is
156 Jetfixr : Mel, AIL is on the runup bay on the line maint. side. Your CD is with me in Delhi, I will send it back with my co-worker.
157 WestWing : What sorts of things still need to be done to the aircraft to make-ready for revenue service ? Are they mostly passenger related items (e.g., verifyin
158 Thunderbird1 : Another possible name: Malkauns/Malkosh. That's a beautiful raga.
159 HAWK21M : Thanks Jerry.When you leaving for LA. regds MEL
160 RootsAir : The air india livery is getting soo old. I personally despise it...and itmakes the 777 look ugly !
161 HAWK21M : Looks Fantastic on the B747s though. regds MEL
162 Jetfixr : There is cabin things like adding Hindi signs and placards everywhere. Standardizing some equipment too. Acft certificates need to be installed in va
163 HAWK21M : This was a DGCA Mandatory Mod to avoid Bulk erasure by removing the Card. regds MEL
164 COEWR787 : I think the old AI livery that was used on the 707s would look better on the 777 than the current 747 based livery. But on the whole even the current
165 Jaysit : I suggest "Mehbooba Oh Mehbooba" as a name for the last 777. That classic item number from the classic "Sholay" with that doyen of Indian cinema, Hele
166 Post contains images Thunderbird1 : I suggest "Mehbooba Oh Mehbooba" as a name for the last 777. All I can say is, I'm glad you're not running the airline!
167 WestWing : Jetfixr Thanks for the information ! On the dash subject - AIK has the fuse english titles fixed, but not the ones on the vert stab. Maybe the fuse ti
168 Post contains images Jaysit : All I can say is, I'm glad you're not running the airline! Please, if I ran the airline, you'd see gorgeous flight attendants, AVOD PTV in every seat,
169 Kdeg00 : I think the Air India livery looks fantastic on the 747s, partially because of the way the tail panit appears to change the shape of the foil, and al
170 Post contains images B747-437B : I'm not usually a fan of the Bollywood fare, but that would be enough to get me to actually BUY tickets on AI!
171 HAWK21M : Thats exactly the reason the DGCA MM was issued.To eliminate Erasure of the Tape.Since disabling the switch was an option,DGCA Insisted that the Card
172 WestWing : Hawk21M: Sorry, I had not fully understood your first comment. I have now read the DGCA 2004-10-04 AAC, so I understand what you were saying. Does the
173 HAWK21M : Although Im A&C and not Avionics however. Im familiar with the Tape based CVR card removal. On the B777s I've heard that the Pin connection to the Sw
174 WestWing : VT-AIJ (Neelambari) arrived in India on 12 Feb and was in revenue service by 1 Mar. Based on this, one would estimate that VT-AIL ought to be ready fo
175 Post contains images WestWing : Hmmm. I was far too optimistic with my June 7th estimate. Does anyone have any update on status ?
176 HAWK21M : Whats the Status on VT-AIL.Any Name yet. Sean/Jerry. regds MEL
177 Jetfixr : I haven't talked to the guys since I arrived home. I will try to find out something. They are busy guys and I hope to hear back soon. Jerry
178 Post contains links Airish : VT-AIL has been called Kalyani. There is also a new A310 called Damodar http://www.airindia.com/page.asp?pageid=2
179 Post contains images WestWing : Wow! The AI website was the first source of this info...and they updated the engines too
180 Post contains links B747-437B : Ahem... *cough* http://www.airwhiners.net/whine_cheez/20040726.htm
181 Aseem : so what's the update about VT-AIN, on which route is it going to be used? rgds VT-ASJ[Edited 2005-06-14 22:55:14]
182 B747-437B : VT-AIN is the former 9V-STD and is one of 3 A310-300s being delivered in June/July. They will be used to increase services to BKK/HKG/SIN and to rein
183 Post contains images WestWing : Ok, you win ! I should have written what I really meant: "I can't believe the AI website was the first source of this info" Looks like my skepticism
184 HAWK21M : Is that a Raga. regds MEL
185 Post contains links WestWing : So it would seem The DEL-DAC-CCU-LHR route starts tomorrow (Saturday 18th), DEL dep 08:00, LHR arr 20:15.
186 Post contains links Himmat01 : Guys, Here is a link to the picture of VT-AIL, Kalyani, http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=495304 cheers!!!! Himmat
187 Post contains images HAWK21M : Fantastic Pic. Made my Day. Thanks. regds MEL
188 Himmat01 : What about VT-AII? They have VT-AIH and VT-AIJ, AIK, AIL..... Has any aircraft been registerd as VT-AII already? Airfleet.net shows that N789UA has be
189 Blrsea : Are the pilots flying the AI 777s expats on contract or IA's own pilots?
190 Himmat01 : At the moment most are expats on contract. Himmat
191 Himmat01 : Most captains are expats. CHERUBINI TOMMASO VASILENKO A DAVID RYDER DAVID A RADMORE VVEDENSKIY EVGENY ERCHENKO ANATOLY ALEXANDER G BABENKO ANDREW G HO
192 Thunderbird1 : VT-AIL---beautiful! Kalyani's a great name.
193 B747-437B : I'm certain that Deepak Anand and Cyrus Edekar are also 777 command qualified now, and thats just two that I know of specifically.
194 HAWK21M : When will the AI AMEs be B772 qualified. When will UA AMEs end their Contract. regds MEL
195 Blrsea : Are AI's 777s being maintained by UA?What happens if any aircraft needs maintenance in India? Are there UA AMEs stationed in India? And can they avai
196 HAWK21M : Minor Checks are carried out at Bom & Del.There is one UA AME at Del & Two at Bom on 6 monthly Deputations. As Indian AMEs have to acquire requisite
197 Post contains links and images HAWK21M : View Large View MediumPhoto © John Kelley VT-AIL Looks Good. regds MEL
198 Karan69 : Sure does as do the the others
199 BN747 : Uh huh.right here in LAX it sure does. I guess that depends on the depth of maintenance required. VT-AIL apparently arrived here late last night and
200 Post contains images Mrniji : POST 200 IS MINE hopefully with this extras line now the topic is not too short..
201 Post contains images Olympus69 : No it isn't. Post 200 is Reply 199.
202 Teahan : VT-AIL apparently operated into LHR as AI 151Y and then ferried LHR-LAX as AI 161. Whole system is in a state with 3 744s out and 1 777. Ah Air India.
203 HAWK21M : Damn Some one at Quality Control has screwed up the Mx Schedule badly. regds MEL
204 BN747 : VT-VIL took off as AI 160 ferry/crew only from LAX (1604) non-stop for Delhi. Now there's a route that has never been flown before... BN747
205 Jetfixr : Unfortunately AIL is not flying non-stop to Delhi. It is stopping in Birmingham and starting the Birmingham/Amahritsa/Delhi route. Your correct in tha
206 Mrniji : And why has this not been done before acquiring AIL?
207 HAWK21M : Jerry. Is it a QECA [Quick Engine Change Assy] & how long is the AOG situation. regds MEL
208 Jetfixr : It was a QEC and the reason it was a lease engine was the fact that these airplanes had engine problems from the outset. AIJ had one bad engine and th
209 HAWK21M : Bad in what sense.....High EGT,Borescope detected Damage. With Shortage of Aircraft for Scheduled service.Was it right in Replacing the Leased Engine
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