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User currently offlineEmirates777 From Tanzania, joined Feb 2000, 655 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 6 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Additional frequencies to Lagos (LOS)
At the start of the summer schedule ie. end of March, Emirates will increase frequencies on the Dubai to Lagos sector. Initially 2 weekly flights will be added, on Tue and Sun, to take the route to a 6x weekly. From 1 Oct. the route will be upgraded to a daily service.

The previously advertised 2 additional non-stops to Accra will instead be re-routed through Lagos. So Accra will still be a served as a one stop service through LOS. Emirates must have managed to gain additional into Nigeria very recently. The new flights will be operated by A330s.

Tripoli (TIP) upgraded to 777s
From the beginning of June the 3x weekly service to Tripoli (TIP) operated via Malta (MLA) will be upgraded from a A330 to a B777-200ER (low density). From end of October onwarda the de-linked flights, operating a dedicated service to Tripoli will continue to use these 777s. At that point MLA will be served through LCA using A330s (5x weekly).

Rgds
Emirates777

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User currently offlineBehramjee From Canada, joined Aug 2003, 4784 posts, RR: 43
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2510 times:

What sort of market does EK see and target in Malta?

User currently offlineKLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 697 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 2466 times:

Behramjee

As much as I admire what the folks at Emirates are doing with the airline, sometimes I just get the impression they want to fly everywhere, and use big jets, just because they can... which is cool too I guess  Smile


User currently offline6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 3329 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 2377 times:

there is quite a significant Maltese community in Australia, and EK seems to be the carrier of choice amongst them.

the alternate to EK is a backtrack via Rome, or worse still, London.

Air Malata has just announced that it will codeshare with Qantas to Sydney over London. I cant see this working, but its not really a big commitment i suppose..


User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2286 times:

KLMA330,

There are thousands of Nigerians living in Dubai, and thousands more of merchants travel from Nigeria to Dubai to buy and sell goods back home. The Lagos route is often overbooked, so no, it is not for prestige, but for profit!!!



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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 2252 times:

I am sad to see EK taking trade away from African airlines. EK are a much over-rated carrier in my opinion with their 330s in the worst configuration of any scheduled carriers in economy.

They are greedy and ambitious and I hope that the poor African countries enable their own airlines to fight back against EKs growing dominance.


User currently offlineEurostarVA From Bahrain, joined May 2002, 1296 posts, RR: 7
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2179 times:

Orion737,

Emirates provides a good product, superior to any other 'reliable' African operator. In fact, their A330s may be cramped, but at least you don't get bored flying on their a/c, unlike other airlines where you are forced to stare at the run-down seat infront of you.

Instead, African airlines should compete, restructure, merge, or do something at least.



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User currently offlineAeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2171 times:

Orion, do your research before you start going off on something. A) Emirates

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5):
EK are a much over-rated carrier in my opinion with their 330s in the worst configuration of any scheduled carriers in economy.

Emirates economy on the A330s is 2-4-2, just the same as any other scheduled carrier's Economy class onboard Airbus longhaul aircraft.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5):
They are greedy and ambitious

They also have opened up many new markets, and thus provide new options for passengers and bring down fares on routes previously only operated by one or two carriers. Look at the non-stops to Perth, providing people in WA with many new one-stop European destinations, or their service to the Maldives - some of the only non-charter service to the islands. On top of that, their fares are much lower on many routes than other carriers, and provide a fantastic option to some of the competition between Europe and Asia/Australia and the Middle East.

Quoting Orion737 (Reply 5):
and I hope that the poor African countries enable their own airlines to fight back against EKs growing dominance.

Ha! The African countries are delighted to have Emirates' service, otherwise they wouldn't grant them the rights to fly there. As I said before, they open up new markets for these countries and provide them with critical trade links that they cannot afford to provide for themselves. Before you jump to being critical, why not stop and try to analyze the situation from an unbiased point of view. Emirates is doing great things for the airline industry, like em or not.

Nick


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2102 times:

Emirates provides a good product, superior to any other 'reliable' African operator.

That's your opinion; I believe that South African Airways has a better product then Emirates.

Ha! The African countries are delighted to have Emirates' service, otherwise they wouldn't grant them the rights to fly there.

Well, who is actually delighted, the people or the countries? Majority of the African Flag carriers are state owned, and though these countries are honoring various bilateral air agreements (some dating to the time when most Gulf carriers did not even exist), including the ones signed with the United Arab Emirates, it does not mean that they are happy to see EK kill-off their "pride and joy". Passengers on the other hand could well be satisfied with the opportunity to have direct links from their home countries with Dubai, but the two, I'm sure you'll agree, are very different "delights".



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User currently offlineAeroAussie From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 264 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2053 times:

Quoting JoKeR (Reply 8):
Majority of the African Flag carriers are state owned, and though these countries are honoring various bilateral air agreements (some dating to the time when most Gulf carriers did not even exist), including the ones signed with the United Arab Emirates, it does not mean that they are happy to see EK kill-off their "pride and joy".

You make a valid point. However, many of the "pride and joy" carriers cannot even sustain themselves within Africa, muchless outside - Ghana Airways being a prime example, and Nigeria hasn't had a flag carrier flying intercontinentally for some time now. So while these states may all have airlines that they are proud of, they are funded by poor corrupt governments who can barely sustain a regional operation, never mind something intercontinental. (Obviously there are airlines in Africa that are exceptions, such as SA KQ and ET, but the situation of those governments are slightly different as well.)

Nick


User currently offlineJoKeR From Serbia, joined Nov 2004, 2238 posts, RR: 9
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

Nick, sad but true; I'm nevertheless optimistic and I feel that African Aviation got their long-awaited rude awakening and that change can only point northwards, saying that, probably with a few less participants from the old continent...


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