Touchdown99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1463 times:
Just read an article which said that one of the zillion cost saving measures implemented by Ryanair was to do away with the airsickness bags that airliners put into the seat pockets (this was obviously in the era before Ryanair's newest 737-800s that do not have seat pockets and reclining seats anyway....). I would be thrilled to see the calculation one of Ryanair's bean counters certainly did to find out that it is cheaper to have the poor F/As cleaning the cabin every once in a while instead of stocking sickness bags.... (I understand Ryanair has a few available on request - "Excuse me, m'am, I am about to say hello again to my breakfast - could just hurry to get me a... ooops, sorry").
Anyhow, are there other airlines that do not offer sickness bags to passengers ? I mean, there are ways to reduce costs without doing away with them completely as you can use them for advertising messages of use them, as I have seen on a couple of carriers, as envelopes for mailing film rolls (has anyone EVER taken uo such an offer ?)
FriendlySkies From United States, joined Aug 2004, 3579 posts, RR: 4 Reply 1, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1449 times:
As soon as I saw the thread title...Ryanair came to mind.
Lincoln From United States, joined Nov 2004, 3223 posts, RR: 8 Reply 3, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1403 times:
I'm thinking...
I didn't notice any on my last AA (Dec04) DL or NW/NW Airlink (Aug04) Flights... I have a feeling they were just missing from my seat (or crunched down under everything else they put in there), however, rather than being a system-wide elimination of the bags.
(I wonder how much cost they would save if they just put like one per row rather than eliminating them entirely?)
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Lnglive1011yyz From Canada, joined Oct 2003, 1498 posts, RR: 10 Reply 5, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1384 times:
Any airline that is trying to save money by not providing air sickness bags, will find that they will be spending MORE money on cleaning seats, passengers clothing, and other various articles, than probably would have cost them for the bags.
Unless of course, someone can offer dollar values on how much it costs?
6thfreedom From Bermuda, joined Sep 2004, 2769 posts, RR: 15 Reply 6, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1327 times:
In all my years of flying, I have only seen one person use an air sickness bag.
I'm not saying that they're not required, but I would be interested to find out what the rate of air sickness is.
Perhaps each seat doesn't require one.... maybe its best if the flight attendants hand them out to pax that think they may need them prior to take off.
Touchdown99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 7, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1316 times:
In a recent article in Airliner World about artsy Sickness Bag designed for Virgin Atlantic there was a quote that a thousand bags cost between 35 and 45 GBP. I guess that is for a customized version with airline logo etc., so a plain whtie one probably is somewhat cheaper 3,5 pence.
Touchdown99 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1314 times:
Quoting Lnglive1011yyz (Reply 5): ny airline that is trying to save money by not providing air sickness bags, will find that they will be spending MORE money on cleaning seats, passengers clothing, and other various articles, than probably would have cost them for the bags.
Well, Ryanair has a) leather seats, b) their F/As cleaning the aircraft and c) does not give a damn anyway, so I guess you canot measure them against standardy that are usually agreed to as common sense..... On the other hand, maybe that is the reason why their catering is so ridiculously expensive - to keep their passengers' stomachs empty.
ACDC8 From Canada, joined Mar 2005, 6309 posts, RR: 26 Reply 9, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1263 times:
To all CEOs and other penny pinching executives that argue not having barf bags is a great saving. I invite them next time they fly, preferebly in econo own their own airline, to sit next someone who has just spewed his stomach all over himself and the seat because the airline saved XXX amount of dollars because they have no need for the bags. It's not a pleasant experience, believe me!
September11 From United States, joined May 2004, 2948 posts, RR: 17 Reply 10, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1261 times:
maybe airlines do not need sickness bags anymore because now per law they don't let drunk passengers board planes? just my thought.
Aa757first From United States, joined Aug 2003, 2970 posts, RR: 10 Reply 11, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1225 times:
Quoting September11 (Reply 10): maybe airlines do not need sickness bags anymore because now per law they don't let drunk passengers board planes? just my thought.
Yeah, but people don't just puke when they are drunk.
Mandala499 From Indonesia, joined Aug 2001, 4131 posts, RR: 48 Reply 12, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 1218 times:
Well, one way of saving is to keep airsick bags in the galley... BUT, some pax just spew all of a sudden so that may not be a good way... Pax take barf bags anyways... so why not have advertisements on barf bags and turn barfbag into a revenue source instead
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I didn't notice any on my last AA (Dec04) DL or NW/NW Airlink (Aug04) Flights... I have a feeling they were just missing from my seat (or crunched down under everything else they put in there), however, rather than being a system-wide elimination of the bags.
AA has not eliminated them. We have used them plenty of times traveling with our kids. However, they are not always replaced right away, so one needs to board early and get them from other seats.
In my last LIM-MIA flight, an older gentleman two rows behind me gave one a good workout. They are definitely necessary.
Nwlover From United States, joined Feb 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1093 times:
Getting rid of Airsick bags is truely a stupid idea. Eventhough it is rare that people get airsick, it still would be an embarassment if an ill passenger would have to puke on themselves because the airline was trying to save a little cash.
AirWillie6475 From United States, joined Jan 2005, 2436 posts, RR: 1 Reply 15, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1080 times:
That's OK, when passengers start vomiting in the seat pouch in front of them airlines will bring the barf bags back.
FLAIRPORT From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 17, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 995 times:
in all of my flights, i have only noticed the bags on jetBlue. I don't know if they shove it in the bottom at DL or FL, but I have never noticed them until my recent jetBlue flights.
Prebennorholm From Denmark, joined Mar 2000, 4807 posts, RR: 50 Reply 18, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 984 times:
I almost forgot that these bags ever existed. I don't think that I have seen one during the last five years.
Over hundreds of flights during the last 35 years I have never seen one being used, even if I have experienced my share or turbulence.
I think it's good idea to part with them. In the first place they are not needed. Secondly, some day a weak passengers might need one simply because he sees it.
They were a leftover from the good old days fifty years ago when prop planes hauled along in and out of cumulus clouds at FL100 for many hours.
Quoting Touchdown99 (Thread starter): Anyhow, are there other airlines that do not offer sickness bags to passengers ?
I think it's more relevant to ask which airlines do still put bags in every seat pocket?
If I will ever need one, then I would assume that it will be in a bus or a taxi. In an airliner? Never.
Always keep your number of landings equal to your number of take-offs, Preben Norholm
Flyboy_se From Qatar, joined Feb 2000, 527 posts, RR: 2 Reply 19, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 942 times:
last summer i flew ARN-CDG-JFK-CDG-ARN on AF and they didnt have airsickness bags on any of those 4 flights.It could have been just coinsidence that they were missing in my pocket.
I think airsickness bags are needed indeed, so getting rid of them is not so good idea.I use those bags often to put rubbish inside instead of putting it in the seatpocket.I can understand that it costs the airline money, but at least they could have one in middle seat only instead of removing them totally.
They could save lots of money on other things, for example headrestcovers and infight magazines ( which are rarely interesting).Also if a passenger is to barf on the interrior, it will take a wile to clean,it would discomfort other passengers sitting around and might even splash on them( not to mention a chainreaction it could start..lol)plus even tho its cleaned it can still smell for the next load of passengers.believe me those airfresheners doesent work at all.
Doona From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 3014 posts, RR: 18 Reply 21, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 861 times:
I think that those of you who have noticed the absence of sick-bags on major airlines will find that this is merely bad turnaround procedures, not replacing the sickbags for the next flights...
Sure, we're concerned for our lives. Just not as concerned as saving 9 bucks on a roundtrip to Ft. Myers.
Pe@rson From United Kingdom (England), joined Jan 2001, 15171 posts, RR: 53 Reply 22, posted (3 years 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 857 times:
Quoting Prebennorholm (Reply 18): Over hundreds of flights during the last 35 years I have never seen one being used,
I have flown various airlines over 100 times so far. I too have never seen anyone using them. I think they are probably more of a precautionary measure than a 'will likely to be used' measure. Do not forget that Ryanair does have them - so if you feel ill you simply ask for them. Perfectly acceptable and ensures that those not used are not wasted.
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