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Again A Foreign Carrier Into North Korea

Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2562 times:

China Southern Airlines will operate into FNJ on a twice weekly flight from Shenyang to Pyongyang. Flight CZ651 will leave SHE on day 1 and 5 at 0730 and will return the same day from FNJ to SHE as CZ652 at 1000 and arrives 0940. Equipment will be M90.

During the last few years, the only foreign carriers flying into North Korea have been Chinese Airlines including China Northwest or China Northern from PEK, SHE or DLC.

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JGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2535 times:

CZ651 will start operating on 3rd June 2005 until 10 October 2005.

Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Reply 2, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2527 times:

During the last few years, foreign carriers operating into the DPRK operated only during summer. The only exception where some charters operated by KE and OZ from Seoul.

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PanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 2486 times:

Just out of curiousity, who are the passengers on these flights? Business? Tourism? Family?

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Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Reply 4, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2300 times:

PanAm747
Well, you will have all of them. But mainly Officials and Chinese people working in the DPRK. Out of the tourists, most of them would be Chinese. Would say little VFR.

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Khushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2275 times:

does north korea have regular domestic service?

Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Reply 6, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2249 times:

Khushdesi
No, they don't. All Domesic Air Koryo flights are based on a charter operation only using mainly Il-18 planes.

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Khushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2216 times:

i suspected not. cool- thanks for the info, swissgabe! Smile

Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27
Reply 8, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 2215 times:

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
Out of the tourists, most of them would be Chinese.

Some kind of "Favoured Nation Status"? I thought DPRK was a closed country?
What other nations can share passengers with DPRK? Former USSR? Vietnam?

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
Would say little VFR

Most likely none, unless you're a member of the ruling party.

What type of aircraft will be operating the service?
Mainline aircraft or Regional jet?
I don't know what CZ's fleet is made up of, but I do know it's no more than 325km between the two cities...hence an RJ possibility.

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FoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2816 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2182 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
What type of aircraft will be operating the service?

Original post says MD-90.

I would note that this is a new airline to North Korea in name only...China Southern acquired China Northern, so this is really just a resumption of previous China Northern service from SHE to FNJ.

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Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Reply 10, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 2152 times:

Stirling
All nationalities can visit the DPRK if obtaining a Visa before your trip with the exception of US and ROK citizen.

VFR might consist mainly of people from the DPRK working in China and Russia.

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Highpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 2092 times:

Stirling

Yes, I recently went on a package tour of China,and one of the offered add ons was an extension to North Korea although this was travelling by train.
I would have been interested but it was very expensive at about £600 for a few days.

Chris

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The777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6115 posts, RR: 56
Reply 12, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 1945 times:

I read that CZ and MU are in the process of selling all their MD-90s to Iran Asseman Airlines so CZ may possibly fly something else there.

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Stirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 27
Reply 13, posted (8 years 3 months 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 1820 times:

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 9):
Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
What type of aircraft will be operating the service?

Original post says MD-90.

Pardon my blindness.

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HAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31228 posts, RR: 58
Reply 14, posted (8 years 3 months 6 hours ago) and read 1685 times:

What Airlines operate to North Korea.
regds
MEL

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Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Reply 15, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1604 times:

HAWK21M
Posting says "Again a foreign carrier into North Korea". So beside it's national carrier Air Koryo it could be only China Southern. In other words, your answer is already in the first post. Or did you miss out a "d" at operate?

In that case you could ad a few other airlines like:
Interflug
Aeroflot
China Northern
China Northwest

I don't think that CSA, Cubana and other carriers ever operated as scheduled service into the DPRK.

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Spike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1576 times:

Didn't Cliton go there on AF1?

Swissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5265 posts, RR: 36
Reply 17, posted (8 years 2 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 1489 times:

If not mistaken, only Albright made it into the DPRK but not President Clinton.

I don't know which plane she took ...

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