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Again A Foreign Carrier Into North Korea  
User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3299 times:

China Southern Airlines will operate into FNJ on a twice weekly flight from Shenyang to Pyongyang. Flight CZ651 will leave SHE on day 1 and 5 at 0730 and will return the same day from FNJ to SHE as CZ652 at 1000 and arrives 0940. Equipment will be M90.

During the last few years, the only foreign carriers flying into North Korea have been Chinese Airlines including China Northwest or China Northern from PEK, SHE or DLC.


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User currently offlineJGPH1A From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 1, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3272 times:

CZ651 will start operating on 3rd June 2005 until 10 October 2005.

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 2, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3264 times:

During the last few years, foreign carriers operating into the DPRK operated only during summer. The only exception where some charters operated by KE and OZ from Seoul.


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User currently offlinePanAm747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 4242 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 9 hours ago) and read 3223 times:

Just out of curiousity, who are the passengers on these flights? Business? Tourism? Family?


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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 4, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 3037 times:

PanAm747
Well, you will have all of them. But mainly Officials and Chinese people working in the DPRK. Out of the tourists, most of them would be Chinese. Would say little VFR.



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User currently offlineKhushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 3012 times:

does north korea have regular domestic service?

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 6, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2986 times:

Khushdesi
No, they don't. All Domesic Air Koryo flights are based on a charter operation only using mainly Il-18 planes.



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User currently offlineKhushdesi From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 85 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2953 times:

i suspected not. cool- thanks for the info, swissgabe!  Smile

User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 8, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2952 times:

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
Out of the tourists, most of them would be Chinese.

Some kind of "Favoured Nation Status"? I thought DPRK was a closed country?
What other nations can share passengers with DPRK? Former USSR? Vietnam?

Quoting Swissgabe (Reply 4):
Would say little VFR

Most likely none, unless you're a member of the ruling party.

What type of aircraft will be operating the service?
Mainline aircraft or Regional jet?
I don't know what CZ's fleet is made up of, but I do know it's no more than 325km between the two cities...hence an RJ possibility.



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User currently offlineFoxBravo From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 2998 posts, RR: 4
Reply 9, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 2919 times:

Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
What type of aircraft will be operating the service?

Original post says MD-90.

I would note that this is a new airline to North Korea in name only...China Southern acquired China Northern, so this is really just a resumption of previous China Northern service from SHE to FNJ.



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 10, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2889 times:

Stirling
All nationalities can visit the DPRK if obtaining a Visa before your trip with the exception of US and ROK citizen.

VFR might consist mainly of people from the DPRK working in China and Russia.



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User currently offlineHighpeaklad From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 6 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 2829 times:

Stirling

Yes, I recently went on a package tour of China,and one of the offered add ons was an extension to North Korea although this was travelling by train.
I would have been interested but it was very expensive at about £600 for a few days.

Chris



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User currently offlineThe777Man From United States of America, joined Jul 1999, 6577 posts, RR: 55
Reply 12, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 2682 times:

I read that CZ and MU are in the process of selling all their MD-90s to Iran Asseman Airlines so CZ may possibly fly something else there.

The777Man



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User currently offlineStirling From Italy, joined Jun 2004, 3943 posts, RR: 21
Reply 13, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 2557 times:

Quoting FoxBravo (Reply 9):
Quoting Stirling (Reply 8):
What type of aircraft will be operating the service?

Original post says MD-90.

Pardon my blindness.



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31684 posts, RR: 56
Reply 14, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 2422 times:

What Airlines operate to North Korea.
regds
MEL



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User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 15, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2341 times:

HAWK21M
Posting says "Again a foreign carrier into North Korea". So beside it's national carrier Air Koryo it could be only China Southern. In other words, your answer is already in the first post. Or did you miss out a "d" at operate?

In that case you could ad a few other airlines like:
Interflug
Aeroflot
China Northern
China Northwest

I don't think that CSA, Cubana and other carriers ever operated as scheduled service into the DPRK.



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User currently offlineSpike From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2004, 1170 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 2313 times:

Didn't Cliton go there on AF1?

User currently offlineSwissgabe From Switzerland, joined Jan 2000, 5266 posts, RR: 33
Reply 17, posted (9 years 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 2226 times:

If not mistaken, only Albright made it into the DPRK but not President Clinton.

I don't know which plane she took ...



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