747boy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2699 times:
Hi,Can anyone tell me the flight time for a 747 200 from the UK to the Faulklands, I realise it cannot be done non stop, we will be travelling via the Ascention Islands, then one from there.
Airconti From Germany, joined Jun 2004, 148 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2687 times:
Based on the schedule published by MoD, that's the travelling time on RAFs Tristar (Fuelstop on Ascension) from Brize Norton to Stanley:
March to October. British Summer Time (BST)
Journey Departure Time Arival Time (the following day)
UK to The Falkland Islands 2359 hours (BST) 1300 hours (local time)
Falkland Islands to the UK 1000 hours (local time) 0815 hours (BST)
October to March. Greenwich Mean Time (GMT)
Journey Departure Time Arival Time (the following day)
UK to The Falkland Islands 2300 hours (GMT) 1400 hours (local time)
Falkland Islands to the UK 1100 hours (local time) 0715 hours (GMT)
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 2, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2665 times:
From my reply to an earlier thread
The direct RAF Service from UK departs from RAF Brize Norton and aircraft are Tristars.
This flight takes place approximately 6 times every month. Journey time to Mount Pleasant Airport, 35 miles to the southwest of Stanley is approximately 18 hours including a refuelling stop at Ascension Island. Flight services include four in-flight meals & a bar. In-flight video film entertainment is available on certain flights. All flights are non-smoking. Duty-free facilities are available at Ascension Island & Mount Pleasant on the return journey.
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BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 4, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2633 times:
Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 3): In days gone by British Airways used to operate to the Falklands - I have a relative who was crew with BA on the first flight there.
Charter flights on behalf of the MoD only. It was never a scheduled service.
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Orion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2622 times:
I think it high time BA provided a scheduled flight to the Falklands to carry tourists and any VFR traffic. The RAF have discouraged tourism with their outrageous fares for too long!
BCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 18 Reply 7, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 2603 times:
Quoting Spike (Reply 6): Its generally cold and wet. Why are you going to Stanley?
For starters I can think it would make a more interesting topic for conversation than "my holiday in Spain" as it would be different. Why do some tourists like going to Antartica?
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KLMA330 From Canada, joined Feb 2005, 692 posts, RR: 2 Reply 8, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 2572 times:
Amazing Whale-watching available at the Falklands!
Also, considering the British Gov't faught a war to keep them, and thus keep alive some part of the Empire (not being patronizing, I actually like the term, and the idea), you'd think British Airways would have at least a once a week connection to the outpost. I know it wouldn't be a financial success, but it would be something to show for the Victory, and for the lives lost in that war.. at least IMHO.
747boy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 2470 times:
Thanks to everyone who has posted replies to my Faulklands query, will be going in about 3 weeks, duration of 18 days in total for Air Atlanta (MOD), this will continue for the rest of the year.
What southern England would be like without the Gulfstream! Stanley is, believe it or not, the same distance from the Equator as London. When are you going?
November-April is the warmer time to go, but unfortunately it is also the windiest (and those winds--the "Screaming Fifties"--are FIERCE!). Even if you were to go in mid-summer, never venture far without a fleece, a jacket or a sweater because inclement weather is frequent and will catch you out in a T-shirt. For those unfamiliar with this, it is basically when you simultaneously bake in the sun and freeze in the wind. Experiencing all 4 seasons in one day is not uncommon either, even if the day starts off warm and sunny with clear blue skies. In short, don't catch hypothermia.
Orion737:
Quoting BCAL (Reply 4): I think it high time BA provided a scheduled flight to the Falklands to carry tourists and any VFR traffic. The RAF have discouraged tourism with their outrageous fares for too long!
With reason! There is honestly not a great deal to see on the islands. And while I flew over from Chile, I cannot imagine what a waste of a journey it is to fly almost 9,000 miles from the UK to visit an archipelago which you could just as well find off the Scottish coast. The only difference is that you have some beautiful King penguins on the Falklands (esp. Volunteer Point), and some stunning white-sanded beaches. Other than that, you need to be a bit mad to want to stay more than 24 hours on the islands (I was there for a week as a journalist; in retrospect, it did feel like a week too long)!
Quoting Spike (Reply 6): Its generally cold and wet. Why are you going to Stanley?
I would ask the same question.
KLMA330:
Quoting KLMA330 (Reply 8): Amazing Whale-watching available at the Falklands!
Also, considering the British Gov't faught a war to keep them, and thus keep alive some part of the Empire (not being patronizing, I actually like the term, and the idea), you'd think British Airways would have at least a once a week connection to the outpost. I know it wouldn't be a financial success, but it would be something to show for the Victory, and for the lives lost in that war.. at least IMHO.
Agreed on the whale watching. Cape Bougainville is the place. As for the war, I wish more people would go down to the islands to see for themselves what a tragic waste of human life the 1982 war was, for both sides. I can't think of any other conflict in the world where proportionately, so many men died for so few people (1,000 for 2,000 islanders). Before anyone has a go at me, I have both Argentine and British citizenship, and sitting on the fence it pains me to think how two civilised nations, who were traditionally close, couldn't resolve such a ridiculous dispute diplomatically instead, averting bloodshed. There was a good reason for the political term "Falkands Factor" being coined after the war: an unpopular government distracting the public from domestic problems to focus on an international "threat", stoking the fires of nationalism and thus gaining defferential support...). It was cheap opportunism, on the part of both Thatcher and Galtieri, and as ever, PRIDE.
It honestly staggers me how, considering the castrated state of the Argentine military, the British government can justify maintaining such a massive and costly permanent detachment of almost 2,000 troops at such a distant outpost for a similar number of islanders. At the very least, the British could acknowledge that the threat from Argentina is nil (it humours me how many islanders are terrified of President Kirchner, aka. "El Pingüino"!), reduce the military presence, and open up air and trade links between the islands and Argentina, instead of relying on LAN and Chile.
I can understand the fascination with the White Continent, but I'd advise you all to take a good hard look at the Falklands and ask yourselves if they are really worth the money. Accomodation is expensive, food is expensive, goods are exoensive, and internal flights aboard the Government Air Service (FIGAS) to outlying settlements are nothing shy of extortion (Stanley-Port Stephens, for example, is about £150 return, and the distance about the same in miles).
Regards, and enjoy the penguins, the sheep, and above all, the Kelpers!
747boy From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 15 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (8 years 2 months 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 2149 times:
The only reason that I will be going to The Faulklands is because I am cabin crew for Air Atlanta Europe and we have been told that we will be starting these flights in the next three weeks, we have the contract for the next five years.
Thanks you to all who have helped with info on the trip, it gives me something to think about and I will pass on the info to the other selected crew.
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