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User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4415 times:

Now BY is called Thomson and AMM is FCA it isnt hard to work out which tour operator uses which airlines but in days gone by I remember these:

Air Europe - Intasun

Orion Airways -Horizon and Wings

Laker Airways - Arrowsmith

Air 2000 - Owners Abroad group (Enterprise, Falcon)

Caledonian - Inspirations

Monarch - Cosmos

Airworld - Sunworld

Air UK Leisure - Unijet

Flying Colours - Sunset

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User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4397 times:

Wot about these:

Excalibur - ?

Peach Air - ?

Virgin Sun - Virgin Holidays?

And of course we used to have good old Airtours International, now MyTravel Airways.

Mark



Take a ride...fly across the sky
User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4386 times:

Yes wasnt it colourful then and interesting. Now we have Thomson, MYT, TCX and FCA and they take nearly all the charter traffic. Very boring and very poor choice for the consumer who have to put up with paying for meals and appaling service.

It was different in my day, tha knows, in the good old 1980s.


User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4364 times:

Monarch are still linked to Cosmos aren't they - at least via a common ownership?

Excalibur was bought by Globespan, and very promptly screwed up. The A320s were gone, and the DC-10s used were chartered in.

Peach Air wasn't linked to a tour operator, but a seat broker - Goldscrest (?)

You can add...

Inter European Airways operating for Aspro
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Airways International Cymru operating for Red Dragon Travel
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Ambassador operating for Best Travel
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Princess Air operating for Burston
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I'm sure there are more...

Another current one would be Palmair operating for Bath Travel, although they don't operate as an airline in their own right, damp leasing instead.
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User currently offlineUK_Dispatcher From United Arab Emirates, joined Dec 2001, 2595 posts, RR: 30
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4340 times:

Intasun used Dan Air for most of their flights out of NCL & MME.

I flew on DA 737-200 G-ILFC in 1988 MME-AGP. I was only 8, but still have a photo with the reg on! There was also a British Midland 737-200 EI-BTD in the background - now thats what I call a rarity!

Was nice to see a pic of that Princess Air BAe 146 too. I saw one of those in AGP in 1990, when we'd just flown in with UKL (yes, on a Unijet flight-only).


User currently offlineDemoose From Canada, joined Mar 2001, 1952 posts, RR: 23
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

The best photo I have is when I was about 2 years old, at Corfu airport infront of a 737-200, G-BADP, in the really really old livery about to take me home to Manchester. In the background there is a BY 767-200 - must have been very new as the photo was taken in summer 1986.

Mark



Take a ride...fly across the sky
User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1578 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4320 times:

Peach Air was linked with Inspirations and was apparently the "low cost" arm of Caledonian.

(Can you "low cost" a charter?)

Also, what about the likes of Yugotours and JAT (not a UK charter airline I know..), and Aviogenex? Who were they?

Mark



All my life, I've been kissing, your top lip 'cause your bottom one's missing
User currently offlineSignalOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4315 times:

Hi there,

Quoting Diesel1 (Reply 3):
Monarch are still linked to Cosmos aren't they - at least via a common ownership?

Monarch Airlines are still the in-house Airline of Cosmos Holidays.





JMCair, where the in-house operator for JMC holidays. (JMC=John.Mason.Cook) son of Thomas Cook. JMC holidays still exist, but ThomasCook Airlines of course replaced JMCair.



You can read about the start of JMC here: JMC, how it all started in 1999

Simon Vincent, who revived the JMC name, to offer a new Package Holiday experience.


Hope this helps  Wink

Regards, Ryan
SIGNALONE  Smile


User currently offlineLeej From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2001, 293 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4314 times:

Don't forget British Caledonian and Blue Sky Holidays - me and my family were regular patrons back in the 70's & 80's!
I remember once flying Gatwick to Naples on a 1-11 - I seem to remember sitting in the middle but with rearward facing seats. The return flight for some reason was overweight so we had to stop at CDG on the way back. Ah the good old days....
I think Dan-Air used to do a lot of flying for Thomson too. Back in 78 we went to Venice - there was an ATC strike by the French, we had all night at the terminal at Marco Polo waiting to get home...not nice.


User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1578 posts, RR: 22
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4310 times:

http://www.airliners.net/discussions...eneral_aviation/read.main/2020095/

Aviogenex.. how bizarre.

jmc air - didn't that stand for "just marketing crap?"
 bouncy 


Mark



All my life, I've been kissing, your top lip 'cause your bottom one's missing
User currently offlineSignalOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4302 times:

Quoting BananaBoY (Reply 9):
jmc air - didn't that stand for "just marketing crap?"

I doubt it, as they were not a marketing company   Big grin

John Mason Cook 1834-1899, The JMC group was formed 100 years after he died.

Thomas Cook 1808-1892

SIGNALONE  

[Edited 2005-03-24 17:10:11]

[Edited 2005-03-24 17:10:41]

User currently offlineDiesel1 From UK - Wales, joined Mar 2001, 1637 posts, RR: 11
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4301 times:

Dan Air was an independant airline, with no links to any tour operator - and as such doesn't really have any place in the discussion...

JAT was the state airline of Yugoslavia, and Aviogenex an independant operator - Yugotours would have been a UK company to take holidaymakers to Yugoslavia so they wouldn't have been directly linked.

Hmmm... I remember the Yugotours holiday brochures - always worth getting....



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User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1578 posts, RR: 22
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 10):
Quoting BananaBoY (Reply 9):
jmc air - didn't that stand for "just marketing crap?"

I doubt it, as they were not a marketing company

No, but that was a viscious rumour told to me by a member of staff from Thomas Cook! hehe Their words..." all marketing crap and nothing's changed."

Still, I hear TUI stands for "Tits-Up International." Big grin

Mark



All my life, I've been kissing, your top lip 'cause your bottom one's missing
User currently offlineSignalOne From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4267 times:

Did you lot know that the name Airtours came from the initials of
Albert + Ivy Roberts?

Which forms A.I.RTOURS. Airtours also originally was known as "Pendle Airtours" which came from the groups founder David Crossland taking over "Pendle Travel Group". Later the group was known as just Airtours Holidays.

David Crossland

Blimey, he must of been gutted to leave the group which he created from scratch in 2003.

Read about David Crossland leaving MyTravel here!

Regards, Ryan
SIGNALONE  bigthumbsup 


User currently offlineBananaBoY From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2004, 1578 posts, RR: 22
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 4264 times:

Were British Airtours linked to a tour op.. possibly "Poundstretcher?" which later turned into British Airways Holidays, much more upmarket.

This would have been before British Airtours were turned into Caledonian, and later sold to Inspirations.

Mark



All my life, I've been kissing, your top lip 'cause your bottom one's missing
User currently offlineJmc757 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2000, 1298 posts, RR: 7
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 1 week 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 4244 times:

Quoting SignalOne (Reply 7):
Monarch Airlines are still the in-house Airline of Cosmos Holidays

They are not 'in-house' as Thomas Cook, First Choice etc... Monarch are not owned by Cosmos, although the same group do have ownership in both companies, they are more 'sister companies'. Monarch still operate a lot of Cosmos flights, but this is decreasing year by year as Monarch are getting more into the schedueld size of things.

Oh, and JMC... actually stood for Just More Crap (the tour operating arm). Or even heard Just Might Crash....!


User currently offlineCalAir From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2005, 298 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4160 times:

Well, as my name suggests, we booked with Rank Travel back in 1988 and flew MAN-PMI with Cal Air International, who were the charter arm of BCal. I heard that it was originally called BCA Charter, but people got confused between BCAL scheduled and charter, so they renamed the charter division, keeping the lion, but turning her red instead with a red sash from nose to tail with CAL AIR in billboard titles. They became Novair in 1988, but they didnt last long. Not linked to Novair of sweden.


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British Caledonian...we never forget, you have a choice
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 17, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4145 times:

Quoting CalAir (Reply 16):
Cal Air International, who were the charter arm of BCal.

Not quite correct, CalAir was jointly owned by British Caledonian and the Rank Organisation. BCal did previously have their own charter arm, BCal Charter, but when Rank became joint owner the name was rebranded as CalAir. When BCal was brought by BA, Rank was left on their own and this is when it became Novair. It was not long before Rank pulled out completely which is why Novair was short lived.



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineAirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 18, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 4146 times:

I also remember Inex-Adria Airways of Yugoslavia (now Adria Airways the state airline of Slovenia), as I flew with them on holiday in the late 80's.

There was also Paramount Airlines, Airworld, and Cal Air International changed its name after The Rank Organisation bought out BCal and renamed to Novair.

It then went bust!

There was also Universair (operated into Bournmouth for 1 season)

What about Hispania, Aviaco and Spantax from Spain that operated charters

Air Europe (or ILG) also helped form Air Europa (in Spain) and Air Europe SpA (in Italy), they also bought Norway Airlines and re-named them Air Europe Norway and were well on the way to creating "Airlines of Europe", when they went bust. Were they well ahead of the game considering what has happened with the consolidations of TUI and Thomas Cook around Europe?

Just my £0.02

AE733



It's nice to fly with friends
User currently offlineBCAL From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2004, 3384 posts, RR: 16
Reply 19, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 4137 times:

Nobody seems to have yet mentioned Excel whose tour operating arm is Aspire Holidays and their flight-only arm Freedom Flights.

Of course, Excel started as Sabre and was an airline formed to provide flights for the smaller and independent tour operators who did not have enough capacity to fill their own aircraft or operate their own in-house airline.

Dan Air was another airline that operated flights for smaller and independent operators and they went on to become a schedule airline. Monarch seems to be the most common airline operating for different tour operators these days.

I used to avoid using tour operators who used airlines in the 1970/80s such as Spantax, Aviaco etc. Strangely enough, it was the flight information pages of holiday brochures that I looked at first and then decided where I would go on holiday. Nowadays you are lucky to find out from the brochures who will be operating the flight!



MOL on SRB's latest attack at BA: "It's like a little Chihuahua barking at a dying Labrador. Nobody cares."
User currently offlineOrion737 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4110 times:

Some more old charter carriers Ive flown with: Ambassador, AmberAir and the Spanish chater airlines Viva, Oasis, Universair and Nortjet.

User currently offlineJmc777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4108 times:

Actually,

i think you will find that JMC stood for .......

Just Murdered Caledonian

 Silly


User currently offlineAirEuropeUK733 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 978 posts, RR: 11
Reply 22, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 4100 times:

As this is my kind of topic (thanks Orion733) thought the below would let us wallow in some unashamed nostaligia:


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AE733



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User currently offlineJmc777 From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 4070 times:

Whilst being nostalgic. . . . . . .


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User currently onlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 795 posts, RR: 8
Reply 24, posted (9 years 4 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4040 times:

Hi,

MyTravel Airways' main Tour Operating arms in the UK are:

Airtours Holidays
Aspro Holidays
Direct Holidays UK & Ireland
Direct Greece
Panorama Holidays UK & Ireland
Manos Holidays
Escapades Holidays



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...and in Scandinavia for MyTravel Airways A/S are:

Always
Bridge
Gate Eleven
Globetrotter
Gullivers
Saga
Seereisen
Skibby
Spies
Tjaereborg
Trivsel
Ving


Regards
ThomasCook



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25 CalAir : My sincere apologies BCAL, I was working on info provided by my dad, and he wasnt too far off the mark, I suppose I could have explained myself bette
26 BCAL : @CalAir No apology is called for as one of the benefits of a.net is sharing information with fellow members. I am often corrected too! Must have been
27 Diesel1 : Never went bust... simply wound up its operations. And thanks to JMC777 who reminds me of another tour operator/airline link... Court Line / Court Li
28 Post contains links and images BCAL : British Island Airways operated many charter flights View Large View MediumPhoto © Michel Gilliand I flew them once from PMI to LGW when booked o
29 Diesel1 : BIA was independant, though I'm sure that ultimately they had a tour operation... Island Sun maybe?...
30 AirEuropeUK733 : Deisel1 I stand corrected - thanks for the info AE733
31 WhiteHatter : Dan-Air did have a tour linkup. Thomas Cook financed the purchase of Dan-Air's first couple of 732 aircraft, which operated exclusively for them. As f
32 BCAL : WhiteHatter May I just add to your excellent reply: As regards Thomas Cook and the DA 737s, seeing at the time that other tour operators were using mo
33 Orion737 : Soverign and Enterprise were part of the Owners Abroad group and latterly used Air 2000 before Owners was rebranded First Choice and Enterprise and Fa
34 Post contains links and images Diesel1 : BCAL I remember being at MAH not long after Court Line had failed (that probably qualifies me for one of these... ...) and there being a fair number o
35 BCAL : BA eventually sold its tour operating division to Owners Abroad, and that is why Sovereign and Enterprise (both founded by BEA) became part of the Ow
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