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What's Up With Florida Airports Today?  
User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6329 times:

I was looking on some airline's websites and I noticed that FLL,RSW,TPA, and MCO all have ATC delays with no weather problems.
Does this happen a lot or is this different?

Thanks
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User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 1, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6295 times:

From the FAA website regarding delays:

Delays by Destination:
Due to WX, TSTMS EN RTE JETS GAAP, departure traffic destined to Naples Muni Airport, Naples, FL (APF) is currently experiencing delays averaging 29 minutes.

Due to EN ROUTE WX, departure traffic destined to Fort Lauderdale/Hollywood International Airport, Fort Lauderdale, FL (FLL) is currently experiencing delays averaging 57 minutes.

Due to WX, TSTMS ENROUTE, departure traffic destined to Orlando International Airport, Orlando, FL (MCO) is currently experiencing delays averaging 45 minutes.

Due to WX, TSTMS ENROUTE, departure traffic destined to Miami International Airport, Miami, FL (MIA) is currently experiencing delays averaging 51 minutes.

Due to WX, LOW VIS LGHT SNOW, departure traffic destined to Chicago OHare International Airport, Chicago, IL (ORD) is currently experiencing delays averaging 55 minutes.

Due to WX, TSTMS ENRTE, departure traffic destined to Palm Beach International Airport, West Palm Beach, FL (PBI) is currently experiencing delays averaging 2 hours and 35 minutes.

Due to WX, TSTMS ENROUTE, departure traffic destined to Southwest Florida International Airport, Fort Myers, FL (RSW) is currently experiencing delays averaging 34 minutes.

Due to WX, TSTMS ENROUTE, departure traffic destined to Tampa International Airport, Tampa, FL (TPA) is currently experiencing delays averaging 44 minutes.


User currently offlineNjdevilsin03 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 728 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 6270 times:

I live in Gainesville FL (gnv) and let me tell you it poured this morning, lightning and thunder! It stopped around 11ish. But it's still dark as heck out here. Florida is gonna have quite a few delays today.

[Edited 2005-03-25 18:53:54]


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User currently offlineGroundStop From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 611 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6252 times:

Just to elaborate a little bit. There doesn't need to be weather at the airport for there to be weather delays. If you look at a radar image of North Florida, you would see a line of strong to severe thunderstorms extending from the Gulf of Mexico south of TLH, due east and right across the state to the Atlantic. Essentially, these storms are cutting off the standard routes of flights in and out of Central and South Florida. All of the aircraft have to be funnelled out over the Gulf or Atlantic creating a large log jam and thus the need for Ground Delay Programs and departure delays.

JP


User currently offlinePVD757 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3413 posts, RR: 16
Reply 4, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6232 times:

And sandwiched in the middle of all the Florida delays, is our old freind ORD!!!

User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6185 times:

just looked at weathertap...tops are mostly fl300 and up with some at fl400. little hole right now down the center with tops at fl200-fl300 which the no vest birds are working. the vests/nonrafts are pushing out as far as possible on the east and west side to try to get around. see a song waay out in the gulf on a bostpa run instead of offshore east...probably cuz offside east is slammed with traffic and the storms are moving that away.

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User currently offlineLV From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 2005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6183 times:

Actually what is causing the delays is strong storms in northern Florida and southern Georgia. Any flight going to Florida has to go right through the storms so the flights are either delaying taking off at the departure city or in a holding pattern, probably near ATL, CAE, GSP, CLT area waiting for the weather to calm down so they can fly through safely and without scaring pax half to death.

User currently offlineGoingboeing From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 4875 posts, RR: 16
Reply 7, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 6170 times:

Quoting GroundStop (Reply 3):
All of the aircraft have to be funnelled out over the Gulf or Atlantic

Perhaps someone could larify this for me...If an aircraft isn't equipped for overwater flight, aren't they limited to something like 50 miles offshore - so if the storms exceed that distance, can an airliner legally be routed that far out?


User currently offlineJetlagged From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2005, 2556 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6112 times:

Quoting Goingboeing (Reply 7):
If an aircraft isn't equipped for overwater flight, aren't they limited to something like 50 miles offshore - so if the storms exceed that distance, can an airliner legally be routed that far out?

Non ETOPS twins must keep within 60 minutes of a suitable diversionary airport when over water. So such diversions are not likely to be a problem.



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User currently offlineRDUDDJI From Lesotho, joined Jun 2004, 1482 posts, RR: 3
Reply 9, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 6079 times:

GoingBoeing:

You are correct, if they are not OW equiped, then a/c have to remain w/in 50 miles of land. Most "mainline" carriers use OW equipped a/c for Florida Ops. But many other carriers do not. I'm sure this is adding to the headaches for ZMA/ZJX...



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User currently offlineKFLLCFII From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 3302 posts, RR: 30
Reply 10, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 5986 times:

Just got back from spotting @ FLL... tower said that the ARKES transition was closed to all traffic except those who could accept a lower cruise alt (as of about 1:30 PM local). They amended a WN departure to only cruise at FL200 (I assume it was going to MCO), and did the same for a Citation. The other traffic were told to shut down for a minimum of 40 minutes before more information would come from Center. (This included a CO 753, another Citation, FL 73G, DL 764, USA 3000 A320, and at least 10 other airplanes in the distance). The delayed flights held south of 9L on twy B, and the undisturbed flights used the north twy (I believe "A") to get to 9L for departure. The delayed flights were finally released about 50 minutes later.


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User currently offlineGraham697 From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 350 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5833 times:

I guess the weather had to do with an Alaska Airline's plan here in Tampa today. I got so excited that they decided to start service...  Embarrassment


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User currently offlineB6FA4ever From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 816 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 5791 times:

i actually just worked JFK-MCO this evening and we were put into a holding pattern over Charleston, SC for about 1/2 till we were able to make our way down to MCO. thought we'd never get there. *LOL* our last BOS-MCO flight isn't scheduled to leave BOS till after midnight. (one of our MCO rampers told me that). also he said that there were quite a few planes that were sitting on the rwy for about 3(ish) hours waiting to take off. must've sucked for the pax on board.

~B6FA4ever


User currently offlinePensacolaguy From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 546 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5740 times:

Here in PNS, a couple cancelled/diverted flights, Because of bad morning fog from about 5am till 10am and evening fog from 4pm-??pm.

March 25, 2005, Evening cancelled/diverted flights:
DL 1754 from ATL cancelled
CHQ 6426 from TPA cancelled
CHQ 6246 from FLL cancelled
CHQ 6337 from MCO cancelled
COM 5600 from JFK cancelled
FL 1727 from ATL cancelled
3M 9181 from TPA cancelled
CHQ 6341 arriving from MCO diverted to PFN
AAE 3413 arriving from DFW diverted to MSY
US 2235 arriving from CLT diverted to MOB


User currently offlineDeltaMIA From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1672 posts, RR: 17
Reply 14, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 5704 times:

Quoting Pensacolaguy (Reply 13):
COM 5600 from JFK cancelled

This flight actually cancelled because the crew timed out. The flight that makes up DL5600 arrives as DL5484 from MLB. That flight diverted to MCO inbound to MLB. All in all DL5484 didn't arrive JFK until around midnight meaning DL5600 wouldn't have gotten to PNS until around 2:30am or so.
I guess fog made the decision easier.



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User currently offlineUsAirways16bwi From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1004 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5256 times:

well i hope FLL is ok by tomorrow night, ill be flying in there around 11:30!

User currently offlineJohn From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 1374 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5233 times:

Delays averaging 1 hour on nearly every flight in/out of PBI yesterday. With everything booked to capacity for the holiday weekend, it was a royal pain in the ass, to say the least...lots of reroutes and misconnects.

User currently offlineFrankhenderson From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 32 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 5119 times:

My sister flew out of PBI on the 25th and had a 1.5 hour delay. The arriving a/c was only 20 mins. late.

User currently offlineHiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5067 times:

it's starting again for saturday....MCO already on a ground stop.
http://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/advAdvisoryForm.jsp


User currently offlineUPS Pilot From United States of America, joined May 1999, 871 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 5049 times:

PIE and TPA both had fog this am with rain. Don't forget too that we have spring break with alot of activity this weekend in FL.

User currently offlineJetBlueAtJFK From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 1687 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4593 times:

Thanks for the replies on that. I wasn't sure about all the delays and didn't know where they were coming from.

Looks like today will have delays like yesterday too.

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User currently offlineOPNLguy From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 21, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 4530 times:

Quoting Goingboeing (Reply 7):
If an aircraft isn't equipped for overwater flight, aren't they limited to something like 50 miles offshore - so if the storms exceed that distance, can an airliner legally be routed that far out?

If an aircraft is only equipped for a max 50nm from the nearest shoreline, and ATC issues a clearance that will exceed that, they have to refuse the clearance.


User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6432 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (9 years 5 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

I saw a Virgin departing TPA around 4:20, here's the info below, but what confuses me: did the plane land at MCO, then fly to TPA, then back to MCO? Why? Weather?



Detailed Flight Information:
Virgin Atlantic Airways Flight 75 to Orlando, FL
(MCO-Orlando International Airport)
74° F
Thunderstorm



Airline Virgin Atlantic Airways
Flight Number 75
Departure City (Airport) Tampa, FL (TPA)
Departure Time 03/26/2005 04:23 PM
Arrival City (Airport) Orlando, FL (MCO)
Arrival Time 03/26/2005 04:33 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived

Airline Virgin Atlantic Airways
Flight Number 75
Departure City (Airport) Manchester, England, Great Britain (EGCC)
Departure Time 03/26/2005 10:48 AM
Arrival City (Airport) Orlando, FL (MCO)
Arrival Time 03/26/2005 02:11 PM
Remaining Flight Time 00:00
Aircraft Type Boeing 747-200
Current Altitude 0 feet
Current Groundspeed 0 mph
Flight Status Arrived



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