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EVA Air 2196 Emergency Landing At NRT  
User currently offlineShonandai From Japan, joined Oct 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7335 times:

Eva Air flight 2196 from Taipei to Tokyo ran into severe turbulence at about 100km from NRT. According to NHK 46 people were injured.

251 passengers and 16 crew were aboard what looked like an Airbus A330-200.

The aircraft was in its descent to NRT when the turbulence was encountered at about 18:11 local time. The plane was SSE of NRT at the time and was over the ocean. The emergency landing was at 18:30 local time.

The was an advisory in efffect at the time of the incident warning of turbulence from 7000 to 12000 meters.

Some speculation on NHK as to whether the seat belts signs were on at the time in light of the large number of injuries. Some passengers were reported to have hit the ceiling and one passenger reported "cracks" in the cabin wall.

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User currently offlineShonandai From Japan, joined Oct 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7255 times:

New information says the turbulence was 200km from the airport over Miyakejima Island.

Number of injuries revised upwards to 49.


User currently offlineShonandai From Japan, joined Oct 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 7216 times:

See
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2005-03/28/content_2754990.htm

for more.


User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 3, posted (9 years 7 months 3 days ago) and read 7061 times:

Thankfully nothing serious happened.
Incredible if the seatbelts on sign was turned on and still some pax were thrown from their seats. Don't they listen?!?! Do they wanna lose their teeth (or worse), like I ask my kids when they refuse to buckle up in the car?



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User currently offlineOB1504 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 3394 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7043 times:

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 3):
Thankfully nothing serious happened.

I would call an emergency landing due to more than 49 passengers seriously injured serious.

Quoting Lamedianaranja (Reply 3):
Incredible if the seatbelts on sign was turned on and still some pax were thrown from their seats. Don't they listen?!?! Do they wanna lose their teeth (or worse), like I ask my kids when they refuse to buckle up in the car?

I don't think the seatbelts on an airplane can keep you from being thrown up by turbulence and simply sliding out (for lack of a better word), even if it is fastened tightly.


User currently offlineStephen007 From Singapore, joined Mar 2000, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 7004 times:

see also http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stori...fp_asiapacific/view/139680/1/.html for more details....

User currently offlineN754PR From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 6964 times:

My seat belt is on for the whole flight.... I just love it when the signs go out.... click, click, click, click!!

User currently offlineCaboclo From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 203 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 6819 times:

I don't know how things are in the rest of the world, but in America the seatbelt signs are frequently ignored, as well as repeated warnings from the FAs. People are nuts.


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User currently offlineLamedianaranja From Venezuela, joined Nov 2004, 1246 posts, RR: 20
Reply 8, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 6769 times:

From the article posted in reply5:

"I have not been informed of any serious injuries. The injuries are reported to be slight or of medium degree," Yoshikazu Yamamoto, an official at the centre, told AFP by telephone.

Injuries of all kind are bad of course but a serious accident IMO involves a damaged aircraft/ serious injuries. Once again, thankfully this didn't happen. I didn't wish to play down the incident
 Cool



I wish that all skies were orange and blue!!
User currently offlineKhenleyDIA From Sweden, joined Feb 2005, 427 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 6681 times:

Quoting OB1504 (Reply 4):
I don't think the seatbelts on an airplane can keep you from being thrown up by turbulence and simply sliding out (for lack of a better word), even if it is fastened tightly

From car wrecks I have gone on, especially rollovers, I have seen was wearing seatbelts can do and what they can't. If they are worn properly, even the lap belts should keep you in your seat. However, with that said, in severe wrecks, part of what causes injuries to people in the back seat are the belts basically keeping their pelvis in one location while the rest of their body goes every which way. I imagine the same thing is true with severe turbulence.

Of course, if they DON'T wear the properly, then all bets are off.

KhenleyDIA



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User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6570 times:

BTW, the aircraft has been grounded pending further check in NRT.

The aircraft was suppose to fly back empty, but it was determined that there could be serious damage done to the airframe and it has been grounded in NRT.


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8184 posts, RR: 26
Reply 11, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6529 times:

That's crazy - unless there was all kinds of manuevering done by the crew above manuevering/penetration speed, a little encounter with severe turbulence shouldn't be any concern to the structural integrity of the aircraft. Nothing snapped off on touchdown right? Give me a break.


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User currently offlineCarpethead From Japan, joined Aug 2004, 2971 posts, RR: 3
Reply 12, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 6482 times:

Regardless of the seat belt signs there are some human factors involved here.

There was a line of t-storms in that area where the flight passed through. It wasn't that huge that it couldn't be negotiated around.

Shouldn't the EVA flight crew notified Tokyo ATC for a deviation. If the Tokyo ATC didn't accommodate that request, then it should be the fault of the ATC. If there were conflicting traffic, then ATC should have moved that conflicting traffic further from the area of t-storms. The last thing you want is a passenger or any plane heading straight into a line of t-storms.


User currently offlineChiawei From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 945 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 6334 times:

According to news report (from EXTV). There was crack in the interior panel.

They are probably grounding the aircraft for pre-cautionary measure.

But still kind of strange to keep the aircraft grounded at NRT, since both JAL/ANA does not fly A330. I don't think there is resource for EVA to perform a detail check.

The original plan was to ferry the plane back to TPE for inspection. But later it was decided to ground the aircraft at NRT.

Sometime the damage is not visible and no parts will seperate from aircraft.

just hope that the aircraft is okay and the one critical injured passenger is okay (all other has been treated and released).


User currently offlineAaron747 From Japan, joined Aug 2003, 8184 posts, RR: 26
Reply 14, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 5276 times:

of course there were cracks in interior panels - passengers or objects came into contact with the paneling and most of it is thin plastic. I'm talking about the airframe - which has been designed to handle more than 125% of loads that would ever be encountered across the normal envelope of flight conditions.


If you need someone to blame / throw a rock in the air / you'll hit someone guilty
User currently offlineKnoxibus From France, joined Aug 2007, 260 posts, RR: 23
Reply 15, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4788 times:

Latest I have (verbally) is that ANA & EGAT have performed the required check on the A/C.

Authorities, EVA & ANA are curently discussing A/C release.

So far scheduled to leave at 17.30 Taipei time.


1 person still hospitalized...10 cabin crews injured. Must have been strong turbulences.



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User currently offlineKtachiya From Japan, joined Sep 2004, 1794 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 4785 times:

Quoting Chiawei (Reply 13):
But still kind of strange to keep the aircraft grounded at NRT, since both JAL/ANA does not fly A330. I don't think there is resource for EVA to perform a detail check.

NW has a huge presence there, I think they can provide the resources for the checks. Or other KE? CI? Can also help with this? Eitherway, I would be freaked out seeing a damaged ac heading back to TPE.



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User currently offlineZanadou From South Korea, joined Nov 2000, 342 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 4217 times:

From: http://www.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/getarticle.pl5?nn20050329a4.htm

Rough air hurts 46 on EVA jet approach
Narita-bound Airbus warned of turbulence; passengers thrown to ceiling

Forty-six people were injured Monday evening when an EVA Air jetliner from Taipei was hit by turbulence as it was preparing to land at Narita airport outside Tokyo, according to police and transport ministry officials.
The injuries were not life-threatening but 12 of the injured needed to be hospitalized, the officials said. The Taiwan carrier's Airbus A330-200 with 267 passengers and crew members was hit by turbulence at 6:11 p.m. and made an emergency landing at Narita around 6:29 p.m.

Seven ambulances were dispatched to transport the injured to Narita Red Cross Hospital located near the airport.

The airline and authorities have not announced the names and nationalities of those injured.

The Land, Infrastructure and Transport Ministry's office at Narita airport said EVA Air Flight 2196 was hit by turbulence about 100 km south-southeast of the airport at an altitude of about 5,500 meters over the Pacific Ocean. The plane was making its final approach at the time.

Passengers onboard said the plane rapidly lost altitude right after an announcement saying the aircraft was entering an area of turbulence. The seat belt sign was on at the time but some people were thrown out of their seats or from the floor and hit the ceiling, they said.

"All of a sudden, about seven people in front of me were afloat in the air," passenger Sachiko Tatara, 48, said.

"The plane shook violently three times. People were thrown to the ceiling, just like in a movie," said Chen Shu-li, a 32-year-old Taiwanese student studying in Japan.

Oxygen masks came out and luggage was scattered in the cabin. Some injured people were bleeding and young children were crying and screaming.

The Meteorological Agency's Narita Aviation Weather Service Center said it had been issuing warnings since 11 a.m. to planes in the area.

The Japan Times: March 29, 2005
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User currently offlineShonandai From Japan, joined Oct 2004, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (9 years 7 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Latest from Japan Today.

Seems that the incident is classified as an aviation accident under Japanese law as one of the passengers broke a bone.

See
http://www.japantoday.com/e/?content=news&cat=1&id=332248


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